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32 minutes ago, The Commish said:

bouncing around like a freakin' pinball today yikes!  :lmao: 

Its like football practice and up downs...someone tell coach to stop blowing the whistle.

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Well hell...  Maybe we do end up seeing back to back records.

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Just now, beef said:

Well hell...  Maybe we do end up seeing back to back records.

Is that a bad thing?

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3 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

Is that a bad thing?

no

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1 hour ago, Tool said:

NASDAQ lagging for some reason...

I know.  That is disappointing but any day that has gains is a good day

 

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1 hour ago, beef said:

Well hell...  Maybe we do end up seeing back to back records.

Jinxed it

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7 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Treasury yields are a negative for the first time ever? That doesn’t sound real good. 

No...not even close.  Switch off, and never listen again to, whoever it was that said that.  That's absurdly wrong.

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1 minute ago, timschochet said:

Oh...perhaps specific ones may have turned negative for the first time ever.  I'd need to look.  "Treasury Yields" have frequently turned negative over the course of time though.

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Just now, The Commish said:

Oh...perhaps specific ones may have turned negative for the first time ever.  I'd need to look.  "Treasury Yields" have frequently turned negative over the course of time though.

OK. I really don’t care about first time or not. I just want to know how bad it is. 

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Just now, timschochet said:

OK. I really don’t care about first time or not. I just want to know how bad it is. 

If you think about it, it has to be tough to get 1M and 3M yields to go negative...that's an accomplishment.

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Well, wasn't what I thought it would be today, but that's two days in a row at least.  Yesterday is hard to top.

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DJIA 21224. Quite an achivement. Only cost 3 trillion dollars to get here

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Posted (edited)

O/U on initial claims tomorrow?  I'm setting 2.75mm my guess.

Edited by Slapdash

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4 minutes ago, Slapdash said:

O/U on initial claims tomorrow?  I'm setting 2.75mm my guess.

I’m sure I can Google this, but I wonder how many of the laid off service industry workers from the most affected, like restaurants and whatnot, moved right over to grocery stores and other places that needed to hire a ton of people immediately, and when we’ll know that.

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1 hour ago, Go DC Yourself said:

3.3m.  

Market up 700 amazing with the unemployment numbers.  

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1 hour ago, Go DC Yourself said:

3.3m.  

That is cheating

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18 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

Well, wasn't what I thought it would be today, but that's two days in a row at least.  Yesterday is hard to top.

Working on three days, maybe Trump was right that the market will rally!

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Thought I'd cross post from the bill thread...

Does anyone have a link to the bill?  We've been given the 10,000 level changes that are supposed to be in the bill as it pertains to retirement accounts and access to them.  If true, I fear a rather large impact to the markets.  Just one of the first things we were told were removal of 10% penalty AND deferred payback anywhere from 1-3 years (conflicting reports on timeline).  Anyone know when the gov't is supposed to start cutting checks?

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18 hours ago, msommer said:

DJIA 21224. Quite an achivement. Only cost 3 trillion dollars to get here

The total market cap of the 30 companies that comprise the Dow is approximately 6 trillion. 

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32 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

The total market cap of the 30 companies that comprise the Dow is approximately 6 trillion. 

What means this?

(also, if it means: "time to put my TSP/401k back in stocks," just LMK tx).

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4 minutes ago, Sweet J said:

What means this?

(also, if it means: "time to put my TSP/401k back in stocks," just LMK tx).

The Dow Jones industrial average is the total share price of 30 of the biggest stocks that span many industries. 

THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE

Company NameStock Ticker

3MMMM

American ExpressAXP

AppleAAPL

BoeingBA

CaterpillarCAT

ChevronCVX

CiscoCSCO

Coca-ColaKO

DowDuPont Inc.DWDP

Exxon MobilXOM

Goldman SachsGS

Home DepotHD

IBMIBM

IntelINTC

Johnson & JohnsonJNJ

JPMorgan ChaseJPM

McDonald'sMCD

MerckMRK

MicrosoftMSFT

NikeNKE

PfizerPFE

Procter & GamblePG

Travelers Companies Inc.TRV

United HealthUNH

United TechnologiesUTX

VerizonVZ

VisaV

WalmartWMT

Walgreens Boots AllianceWBA

Walt DisneyDIS

The total price to buy these 30 companies outright would be approximately 6 trillion dollars based on the current price of their stock shares.  

Congress just authorized the spending of 3 trillion dollars, and the total value of the Dow 30 has gone up about 5 percent today - or about 300 billion dollars.  

 

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42 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

The Dow Jones industrial average is the total share price of 30 of the biggest stocks that span many industries. 

 

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THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE

Company NameStock Ticker

3MMMM

American ExpressAXP

AppleAAPL

BoeingBA

CaterpillarCAT

ChevronCVX

CiscoCSCO

Coca-ColaKO

DowDuPont Inc.DWDP

Exxon MobilXOM

Goldman SachsGS

Home DepotHD

IBMIBM

IntelINTC

Johnson & JohnsonJNJ

JPMorgan ChaseJPM

McDonald'sMCD

MerckMRK

MicrosoftMSFT

NikeNKE

PfizerPFE

Procter & GamblePG

Travelers Companies Inc.TRV

United HealthUNH

United TechnologiesUTX

VerizonVZ

VisaV

WalmartWMT

Walgreens Boots AllianceWBA

Walt DisneyDIS

 

The total price to buy these 30 companies outright would be approximately 6 trillion dollars based on the current price of their stock shares.  

Congress just authorized the spending of 3 trillion dollars, and the total value of the Dow 30 has gone up about 5 percent today - or about 300 billion dollars.  

 

I hate to be the big fat idiot here.  But I interpret what you say as either of two things (possibly more):  1) "the whole shabang is worth 6 trillion, and the government just dumped 3 trillion -- HALF of the worth of the whole thing -- into the market.  So the market is probably going up on the short term (say 6-12 months)."  2) well, I don't really know what the other way to interpret it is. I thought I did a second ago, but maybe I don't.

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Best three day stock rally since 1931!  Trump might have the markets roaring again sooner then later.

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Posted (edited)

Let's get back to Jan 1st levels before we get too excited. Dow still down about 20% this year.

Edited by Leroy Hoard

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8 minutes ago, Gopher State said:

Best three day stock rally since 1931!  Trump might have the markets roaring again sooner then later.

Is that really that impressive when we consider the crash it had?  If things were where they were before then it would incredibly impressive but now it just feels like, meh, still has a ways to go.

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1 minute ago, Leroy Hoard said:

Let's get back to Jan 1st levels before we get too excited. Dow still down about 20% this year.

Easter can’t come soon enough 

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12 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

Let's get back to Jan 1st levels before we get too excited. Dow still down about 20% this year.

11+% two days ago, or was it 13+

2+% yesterday, or was it 3?

6+% today

 Are we caught up yet?

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1 minute ago, JohnnyU said:

11% two days ago, 3% yesterday and 6% today.  Are we caught up yet?

Shows just how far the bottom fell out.

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2 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

Shows just how far the bottom fell out.

If people had more TP this would never have happened 🙂

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Just now, JohnnyU said:

If people had more TP this would never have happened 🙂

TP stock would have been gold.

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2 hours ago, Sweet J said:

I hate to be the big fat idiot here.  But I interpret what you say as either of two things (possibly more):  1) "the whole shabang is worth 6 trillion, and the government just dumped 3 trillion -- HALF of the worth of the whole thing -- into the market.  So the market is probably going up on the short term (say 6-12 months)."  2) well, I don't really know what the other way to interpret it is. I thought I did a second ago, but maybe I don't.

This is way oversimplistic but it's not great when your $6 trillion car needs $3 trillion worth of work just to get it back up and running.  

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3 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

This is way oversimplistic but it's not great when your $6 trillion car needs $3 trillion worth of work just to get it back up and running.  

Especially when we are still making payments.

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1 hour ago, Leroy Hoard said:

Let's get back to Jan 1st levels before we get too excited. Dow still down about 20% this year.

Yes, we should always be at All Time Highs or it’s obviously one big FAIL. 😁

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2 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

Yes, we should always be at All Time Highs or it’s obviously one big FAIL. 😁

Anyone that happened to start a fund at the beginning of the year knows exactly what I'm saying.

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2 hours ago, Gopher State said:

Best three day stock rally since 1931!  Trump might have the markets roaring again sooner then later.

That would be nice

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18 hours ago, Gopher State said:

Best three day stock rally since 1931!  Trump might have the markets roaring again sooner then later.

:lmao:

He'll be as responsible for the "roaring again" as he was for them tanking in the first place.  You guys crack me up.  You're not even trying to hide it anymore.

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10 hours ago, The Commish said:

:lmao:

He'll be as responsible for the "roaring again" as he was for them tanking in the first place.  You guys crack me up.  You're not even trying to hide it anymore.

hmm.  I don't think Trump was responsible for the CV and to be honest, the market is dong better than I thought given the circumstances.

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On 3/23/2020 at 8:11 AM, JohnnyU said:

The Dems were all in until Nancy and Chuck entered the picture.

In the meanwhile my 403b and your 401k tanks again today.  I should be broke by October.

 

2 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

hmm.  I don't think Trump was responsible for the CV and to be honest, the market is dong better than I thought given the circumstances.

That was a quick change of heart? Any reason?

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11 hours ago, JohnnyU said:
21 hours ago, The Commish said:

:lmao:

He'll be as responsible for the "roaring again" as he was for them tanking in the first place.  You guys crack me up.  You're not even trying to hide it anymore.

hmm.  I don't think Trump was responsible for the CV and to be honest, the market is dong better than I thought given the circumstances.

glad you had a change of heart :thumbup: 

Oh, and I said nothing about the CV...was talking about the markets.  It's pretty simple, the markets went in the pooper because of the uncertainty of the CV, when the markets feel the CV is under control or beginning to be under control, they'll begin to bounce back.  See how Trump isn't part of either side of that equation?

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On 3/26/2020 at 4:27 PM, Gopher State said:

Best three day stock rally since 1931!  Trump might have the markets roaring again sooner then later.

Or maybe not.

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8 hours ago, The Commish said:

glad you had a change of heart :thumbup: 

Oh, and I said nothing about the CV...was talking about the markets.  It's pretty simple, the markets went in the pooper because of the uncertainty of the CV, when the markets feel the CV is under control or beginning to be under control, they'll begin to bounce back.  See how Trump isn't part of either side of that equation?

The unlimited money pouring in probably had something to do with the markets.

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My guess is the market will be okay by the time of the election but unemployment will be a whole lot higher than it was.   Its not just going to be small businesses that result in job loss.  Big companies that are able to navigate this will be laying off as well and once they cut they will be slow to rehire.  

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