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I'm with you. I don't like the political or generational word "snowflake," so I'll just call it a bit prissy to not want alcohol around in a bar or club setting. Reeks of the Progressive Era prohibitionists.
Really? I'm shocked!
"Having"? Yeah - I went through my phase of needing to avoid bars, but this is bad writing.
Alright! Let's gulp down those healthy sugary drinks!
OK - no sugar laden drink is better
This blows my mind. Water.
Yeah, I actually totally agree with this. I think recovering alcoholics or users will really benefit by having a dressed-up social outlet without the temptation.
No. I'll just tell people I drank and drugged for over half my life and will die if I don't quit. I'm sure they'll understand, and in addition, I'm not sure I GAF if they don't.
LOL!
I can see the teetotaler vs. newly quit with old drinking friends.LOL!
When I went through my 1st Quit -20081998 - I was greatly surprised at how vicious people can be in a drinking environment to ex-drinkers.
Life long tee-totals get treated well enough, but us EX's - wooooo - it could get ugly.
I got into my ONLY bar fights EVER - 100% sober. That is what eventually kept me out of the bar scene.
After a few years, I could go back and fight back in a fun way. But, it took a while.
You kick'n ### bud!
Bold - Yep. They knew the drunk me - and did not like how I had changed. It was not that they disliked the new me, it was that I was NOT the old me. Some of those friendships died - others, after time, healed and formed a new great but different relationship. This was worth the time and effort.
Forgot to answer this:
i think, in an anecdotal and market-based way, that's what the writer is trying to say. That's why she's essentially saying, "Listen up. Investors are in on this trend, therefore it is at least some evidence that this might be a real thing..."
Looks like it has downtrended from a peak in the 70's/early 80's, but not dramatically so.
Seriously, I thought it was a younger variation on "let's get freaky after church".
Yeah, I thought they were called coffee shops. We have plenty around where I live that are busy at night, have live music, etc.
The sober curious part and intersex intermingling sort of put a dent in one of the three taboos. If they start wearing X's on their hands and dressing in only white Hanes T-shirts, then we'll know.
I'd ask the author of the article, but she went on a bender and stopped checking into work. :shrugs:
I get this, however for me I’d say that hanging out with drunk people when not drunk is like my #1 least favorite thing to do in the entire world. So if this meets a demand for people that want to hang out in a social setting and drink stuff without having people acting like ######s, then who cares?
15 years ago people were prissy for not wanting to smell like smoke just because they wanted to eat dinner somewhere.
My comment is specifically about saying you have to drink at a bar. Nobody is forcing anyone. I completely get not wanting to hang out where there's people getting hammered. I drink and don't really like to be around that type of party/scene because so many people can't control themselves. Thing is, I don't find most bars to be that way and my circle of friends don't really do that (any more).
I also wish them godspeed, too, in a way. I just picture the kind of person that frequents them as sort of an "Eww..." type person.
Pretentious? They're cafe/juice bars, but for night time. If there's a enough of a market for that kind of thing- godspeed.
but yeah... "Sober-curious" is stupid and like made up by somebody "drunk-idiotic".
Im not sire how viable they're going to be though. I figured the $$idea with bars is to sell more than one drink to patrons...which fits one of the MOs of going to a bar- get drunk/buzzed. I can't imagine having more than one...maybe two of those juice things. And yeah, not sure about the crowd either. I remember innaday here in NYC, a bar called Nosmo King opened up- and evem though I hate cigarette smoke and hated having to shower after a night out here or risk having the entire pad reek of the stuff...I still never went. Mostly because my friends smoked. This feels the same.
