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David Ortiz Shot In Dominican Republic -- Still In MA Hospital, Rumors Swirl About Cause Of Attempted Murder

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Not much info out there but seems to be worse than first reported.   Thought the news about being shot the leg was relatively positive.  Now not sure what is up here.  CNN is saying back but no update on condition yet, which seems a bit concerning.

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2 minutes ago, Jefferson the Caregiver said:

Not much info out there but seems to be worse than first reported.   Thought the news about being shot the leg was relatively positive.  Now not sure what is up here.  CNN is saying back but no update on condition yet, which seems a bit concerning.

Very much so.

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2 hours ago, Joe Summer said:

ESPN reporting that he was shot in the back, is currently in surgery, and is "out of danger".

Thanks for the update. I wish deeply for a speedy recovery. 

1 hour ago, DA RAIDERS said:

:hot:

Very much in agreement here. 

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Apparently the gunman was beaten up by the crowd.

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1 minute ago, Tom Servo said:

Apparently the gunman was beaten up by the crowd.

Yeah, Shamrock Pride said there was live and uncut Twitter footage of the beating.

I'm seriously just hoping he's okay. David Ortiz is my favorite athlete of my lifetime, second only to Pedro Martinez. Two men from the Dominican Republic.

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2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

 David Ortiz is my favorite athlete of my lifetime

thankfully you don't hate them, or this thread would get closed up, sans warning. *cough cough*

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2 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

thankfully you don't hate them, or this thread would get closed up, sans warning. *cough cough*

Why? What happened?

eta* Ohhhhh. They closed that??

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Just now, Soulfly3 said:

my wonderful thread has vanished. 

Yeah, I just realized. Wow. I disagree, if you want a quick and honest opinion. 

Hoping to keep it on Ortiz here, though.

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3 minutes ago, Gary Coal Man said:

Oof. Not going to click, but I guess this is technically news. This brings up ethical questions about security cameras and news, but it seems to be something that would be released as news, so...

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11 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Oof. Not going to click, but I guess this is technically news. This brings up ethical questions about security cameras and news, but it seems to be something that would be released as news, so...

The video isn’t bad.  Not graphic, yet clearly a hit.

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Just now, Gary Coal Man said:

The video isn’t bad.  Not graphic, yet clearly a hit.

That's, um, dispassionate. Not much else to say on my end.

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5 minutes ago, rockaction said:

That's, um, dispassionate. 

Or it’s an accurate description of the video — i.e. the key evidence of the incident.

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Just now, Gary Coal Man said:

Or it’s an accurate description of the video — i.e. the key evidence of the incident.

Yep. Dispassionate was not a question about the video's accuracy. It was the dispassionate, unemotional way in which you described it as "a hit," meaning the shot, that I was commenting on, which is also not inaccurate. 

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8 minutes ago, Wrigley said:

Rumor has it he heard a big poppy 

Srsly?

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4 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Srsly?

Too soon? 

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48 minutes ago, Gary Coal Man said:

WTF? I'm no Ortiz fan by any means as I pull for the Yankees but man that's awful. Any word on what happened, if anything, that lead up to the video? My first thought was a robbery but after that video I'm thinking something else. 

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2 minutes ago, Wrigley said:

Too soon? 

Yeah, pretty much. Nobody knows if he's going to even live, though it looks likely from reports that I've heard.

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Listening to WEEI over an internet feed right now. There's been a lot of surgery for a minor wound. 

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WEEI reporting that it was not a robbery, but a hit on David Ortiz' life.

Also reporting there is damage to internal organs. 

Please try to keep comments respectful in here. Be better than your base impulses. 

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Poor big  ploppy. In before he drops f bombs in his post-surgery/hospitalization interview.

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The DR doesn’t seem like a great place to be these days. Ugh

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Just now, Osaurus said:

The DR doesn’t seem like a great place to be these days. Ugh

No, it doesn't. Didn't three people go missing as tourists over there?  

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WEEI reporting that injuries much worse than initial reported. Damage to intestines, colon wall, gall bladder, and liver.

Surgery for hours. Also reporting that this was an assassination attempt/hit on Ortiz' life. Claiming that the video @Gary Coal Manposted is a must see in order to put together the real story. 

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:

No, it doesn't. Didn't three people go missing as tourists over there?  

I thought this was about the PSF for a second... seemed about right. 

Sounds like Ortiz will pull through but in intensive care for the next 24 hours (listed as stable condition). Marly Rivera seems to be the one to follow for quick accurate reporting (@MarlyRiveraESPN)

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3 minutes ago, rockaction said:

WEEI reporting that injuries much worse than initial reported. Damage to intestines, colon wall, gall bladder, and liver.

Surgery for hours. Also reporting that this was an assassination attempt/hit on Ortiz' life. Claiming that video @Gary Coal Manis a must see in order to put together the real story. 

I hope the shooter is just a loser trying to make name for himself by assassinating a famous person.  I’d hate to think that amiable, beloved David Ortiz got himself involved in some underworld stuff.

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52 minutes ago, Northern Voice said:

I thought this was about the PSF for a second... seemed about right. 

Sounds like Ortiz will pull through but in intensive care for the next 24 hours (listed as stable condition). Marly Rivera seems to be the one to follow for quick accurate reporting (@MarlyRiveraESPN)

I don't get the bolded, but thanks for the update and source. That's really good to know. 

eta* I think I get it now. That's funny. Yeah, the PSF is a place where FFA tourists disappear.

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Just now, Gary Coal Man said:

I hope the shooter is just a loser trying to make name for himself by assassinating a famous person.  I’d hate to think that amiable, beloved David Ortiz got himself involved in some underworld stuff.

As much as I personally consider him beloved, there is no doubt that there is potential for underworld stuff. They're actually trying to get a guy that exposed the underbelly of Dominican baseball on WEEI. 

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The “SOME THINGS GO BEYOND A RIVALRY” Yankee fans on twitter are killing me. Saw one guy say that if the Yanks have to lose their next few games so that Ortiz could live, he’d take it. How benevolent. 

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3 minutes ago, Capella said:

The “SOME THINGS GO BEYOND A RIVALRY” Yankee fans on twitter are killing me. Saw one guy say that if the Yanks have to lose their next few games so that Ortiz could live, he’d take it. How benevolent. 

Some things that go without saying are said and put the claimant in doubt.

Update:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/redsox/2019/06/10/david-ortiz-shooting-what-we-know-red-sox-stars-condition/1406704001/

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Update, summarized by WEEI:

Six hours of surgery. At least part of intestines, gall bladder, and part of liver removed.

Pictures being taken in hospital room. Instagram photos of Ortiz in hospital room available. Still "stable" in ICU, which WEEI is claiming is pretty bad.

Still not out of the woods. At all.  

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1 hour ago, Gary Coal Man said:

I hope the shooter is just a loser trying to make name for himself by assassinating a famous person.  I’d hate to think that amiable, beloved David Ortiz got himself involved in some underworld stuff.

As an Indians fan, he wasn't my favorite player because of how many times he crushed my team, but overall he's a great guy.  So, this totally and absolutely sucks.

Get well, Big Papi!!

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1 hour ago, Osaurus said:

The DR doesn’t seem like a great place to be these days. Ugh

New Tourism slogan- "At least we're not Haiti"

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The Twitter account Feliz Karn News has video of attacker getting kicked by bystanders. 

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3 hours ago, Northern Voice said:

Sounds like Ortiz will pull through but in intensive care for the next 24 hours (listed as stable condition). Marly Rivera seems to be the one to follow for quick accurate reporting (@MarlyRiveraESPN)

Heard the same on local radio news about 8:15 a.m. CDT. They also said he is expected to recover. I am curious about the medical reasons he's listed as 'stable' already versus 'critical'.

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2 hours ago, rockaction said:

Update, summarized by WEEI:

Six hours of surgery. At least part of intestines, gall bladder, and part of liver removed.

Not a doctor by any means, but just going by this list of organs there is some hope. People routinely get gall bladders removed to prevent gallstones ... it is not essential for survival or even quality of life. And the human liver is the only human organ I am aware of that will regenerate lost or damaged tissue -- whatever damaged portion was removed should be expected to grow back.

Bariatric surgery involves purposeful removal of part of the intestines, so as far as loss of that tissue goes ... the human body can compensate. However, a foreign object breaching of the intestinal wall into the viscera can lead to a very serious life-threatening infection. It does sound like, with incomplete information, that Ortiz got medical attention just about as soon as was possible (as opposed to walking around with internal bleeding and intestinal-contents seepage for several hours before getting care).

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@MarlyRiveraESPN 

I just spoke on the phone with David Ortiz’s assistant and press rep, Leo López, and he said that once Ortiz is fully stabilized they expect he’ll be transferred to Boston for further treatment. We’re waiting for further updates on his medical condition this morning.

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2 minutes ago, Northern Voice said:

@MarlyRiveraESPN 

I just spoke on the phone with David Ortiz’s assistant and press rep, Leo López, and he said that once Ortiz is fully stabilized they expect he’ll be transferred to Boston for further treatment. We’re waiting for further updates on his medical condition this morning.

As one who had a crappy experience in a DR hospital, this is most definitely a good thing.

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it may be time to consider a permanent transfer to Boston

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