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Just bought a house and despite having an inspection, my inspector clearly missed this. The main bathroom has no hot water in the shower. I had my plumber come and check it out. He thought it just needed a new cartridge but unfortunately that is not the case. When he took off the shower handle and opened the valve to the hot water, nothing came out. Not even a trickle. He thinks something may be blocking it. His only solution is to rip out tiles and replace shower body. The previous owner of the house does not have any tiles stored in his garage so now I have to goto a tile place and see if they can possibly find a match. This whole thing is disheartening because we thought the bathroom didnt need to be touched when we moved in and the unforeseen expense of all the work (appx $2k).

I called the inspector and he has been very helpful. He is actually going to come to the house Monday to take a look at everything. I do have access to the kitchen sink which is behind the bathroom shower. I asked the plumber if he can do the work from there (ripping out the sheetrock inside the cabinet) but he said no.

I cant imagine why no water is coming from the hot water. Good news is we have another shower downstairs but would like to get this fixed.

PS Yes there is hot water coming out of every other faucet and shower.

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5 minutes ago, Thunderlips said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWgVDZv43U0

 

Balancing spool maybe...if it's a Moen shower.  If you could replace the cartridge....you should be able to get to the spool...although they are a pain in the #### to get out. 

I dont think its a Moen. The problem is when he opened the supply valve to the cold water and the handle completely off, water shot out as expected. When he opened the supply valve to the hot water, nothing came out.

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2 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

I dont think its a Moen. The problem is when he opened the supply valve to the cold water and the handle completely off, water shot out as expected. When he opened the supply valve to the hot water, nothing came out.

Can you post pics of valve? 

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1 minute ago, parasaurolophus said:

Can you post pics of valve? 

This is not my actual valve but it might help explain. Again, my valve isnt a Moen nor does it have a balancing spool.

https://www.z-car.com/blog/repair/moen-shower-faucet-provides-no-cold-water-only-hot

When he turns stop check valve cold counterclockwise, water comes out of middle section (after he removed cartridge). When he turns stop check valve kit (hot) counterclockwise, nothing comes out.

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Any chance you have the hot water shutoff somewhere else in the house leading up to it?

Also is the valve in the front properly clocked (#4 in the picture).  I had to replace something similar in the past and it took me awhile to get it right so that hot was hot and cold was cold.

if not you might be screwed

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I apologize. Mine does have a balancing spool.

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24 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

Here is my shower valve. When he turns screw on left no water comes out 

Shower valve https://imgur.com/gallery/KQ8lPGn

The little white gear that says “up” on it...can you easily pop that off and reposition it?  If so try moving it clockwise so that you get more travel

im wondering if it’s just not moving far enough to activate Hot

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22 minutes ago, Dan Lambskin said:

The little white gear that says “up” on it...can you easily pop that off and reposition it?  If so try moving it clockwise so that you get more travel

im wondering if it’s just not moving far enough to activate Hot

No its definitely not that. I removed it completely myself and still no hot water

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Aside from the actual hot water issue, you should definitely look into the responsibility of the inspector in this instance.  This shouldn't have been missed.  And if this was present when you moved in, then the homeowner may have also been aware and failed to disclose. 

Sorry you're going through this.

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1 minute ago, gianmarco said:

Aside from the actual hot water issue, you should definitely look into the responsibility of the inspector in this instance.  This shouldn't have been missed.  And if this was present when you moved in, then the homeowner may have also been aware and failed to disclose. 

Sorry you're going through this.

The inspector is coming on Monday to help me but yes he definitely missed it.

The previous homeowner passed away last July and the house has been unoccupied since then. The sale was an estate sale. It is very possible there were not aware of the issue.

I guess it should have been a red flag that the bathroom and shower was so immaculate.

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Do you guys think I should get a second opinion from another plumber?

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Just now, shadyridr said:

Do you guys think I should get a second opinion from another plumber?

I would reach out to the inspector first.  They may have insurance that covers this and there may be a procedure in order to have that happen.  As this isn't an "emergency" since you have another bathroom to use, go through this carefully so that you can get it covered if at all possible.

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Is any of your water fed by galvanized pipes?  If so, a house unoccupied that long could lead to some of the pipes to become clogged.

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Well, it's a big job. You've got to dismantle the latch hasp from the auxiliary drainage line.

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Some type of sediment or something blocking the flow? Did they try to back flush the pipes? Had this happen in past and worked for me, but I am a total home repair donk.

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20 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

Well, it's a big job. You've got to dismantle the latch hasp from the auxiliary drainage line.

It's all ball bearings nowadays.

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2 hours ago, shadyridr said:

I apologize. Mine does have a balancing spool.

Did he/you check it though?  After the cartridge....that's the next thing on the list.  

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Have you been peeing down the shower drain?

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1 hour ago, Thunderlips said:

Did he/you check it though?  After the cartridge....that's the next thing on the list.  

Apparently my plumber suxor

I loosened the balancing spool and BAM hot water! I retightened and hot water still coming out!. Maybe there was debris stuck in it?

Now having a ##### putting everything back together but at least you found the issue!

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14 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

Apparently my plumber suxor

I loosened the balancing spool and BAM hot water! I retightened and hot water still coming out!. Maybe there was debris stuck in it?

Now having a ##### putting everything back together but at least you found the issue!

Nice. I didn't know much about it until a week ago when I was having shower pressure/flow problems. 

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The inspector can’t be bothered to turn a handle and see if hot water comes out!

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If this was in your basement I doubt you'd have an issue.

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23 minutes ago, NREC34 said:

The inspector can’t be bothered to turn a handle and see if hot water comes out!

And the plumber cant be bothered loosening a balance spool. Imagine I had taken his advice and ripped up my wall.

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Wow.  Isn’t that a good feeling though?  Just saved yourself a lot (more) effort and money.

If I can piggyback on this thread, have you ever had the hot and cold water switch up?  I now have to turn the handle the opposite way to get hot?  I figure some membrane or gasket got jacked up inside but haven’t cared enough to investigate.  It’s the kids’ shower.  🙂

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16 minutes ago, Hoh said:

Wow.  Isn’t that a good feeling though?  Just saved yourself a lot (more) effort and money.

If I can piggyback on this thread, have you ever had the hot and cold water switch up?  I now have to turn the handle the opposite way to get hot?  I figure some membrane or gasket got jacked up inside but haven’t cared enough to investigate.  It’s the kids’ shower.  🙂

yes, it sounds like the plastic piece may have broke on yours causing the handle to come off the gears.

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4 hours ago, shadyridr said:

Apparently my plumber suxor

I loosened the balancing spool and BAM hot water! I retightened and hot water still coming out!. Maybe there was debris stuck in it?

Now having a ##### putting everything back together but at least you found the issue!

admit it...it was the Waffle Stomp that caused the cloggage.

 

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6 hours ago, shadyridr said:

Apparently my plumber suxor

I loosened the balancing spool and BAM hot water! I retightened and hot water still coming out!. Maybe there was debris stuck in it?

Now having a ##### putting everything back together but at least you found the issue!

You might want to remove the spool.  Bang it on something hard, make sure it's cleaned out

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2 hours ago, belljr said:

You might want to remove the spool.  Bang it on something hard, make sure it's cleaned out

Yeah I took it out and ordered a new one. 

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