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2019 NHL Offseason Thread - Jake Gardiner going door to door handing out resumes

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36 minutes ago, RUSF18 said:

Trouba $8mm x 7

seems in line with expectations. not cheap, but not a killer for a legit top-pairing guy who's just entering his prime years.

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2 hours ago, RUSF18 said:

Trouba $8mm x 7

Leaf fans are going to freak when Barrie wants north of that.

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Lucic to CalGary, Neal to Edmonton ... in a swap of bad contracts/underachieving forwards.

Just the third trade ever between the teams.

 

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2 hours ago, Dickie Dunn said:

Lucic to CalGary, Neal to Edmonton ... in a swap of bad contracts/underachieving forwards.

Just the third trade ever between the teams.

 

Oilers had to add a conditional 2020 3rd round pick to the deal and retained $750k of Lucic's salary. Have to hope Neal rebounds from last season and it was an outlier. 

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4 hours ago, northern exposure said:

Oilers had to add a conditional 2020 3rd round pick to the deal and retained $750k of Lucic's salary. Have to hope Neal rebounds from last season and it was an outlier. 

This info regarding the conditional 3rd round pick has surfaced:

Two conditions have to be met for the Edmonton Oilers to send a 2020 third-round pick to the Calgary Flames

Oilers forward James Neal has to record at least 21 goals in the 2019-20 season

Flames forward Milan Lucic scores at least 10 fewer goals than James Neal in the 2019-20 season

If only one or none of the conditions are met, the Edmonton Oilers will not be sending a draft pick to the Calgary Flames as part of the July 19th trade

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11 hours ago, northern exposure said:

This info regarding the conditional 3rd round pick has surfaced:

Two conditions have to be met for the Edmonton Oilers to send a 2020 third-round pick to the Calgary Flames

Oilers forward James Neal has to record at least 21 goals in the 2019-20 season

Flames forward Milan Lucic scores at least 10 fewer goals than James Neal in the 2019-20 season

If only one or none of the conditions are met, the Edmonton Oilers will not be sending a draft pick to the Calgary Flames as part of the July 19th trade

If Neal is sitting at 20 and Lucic at 11 entering the final day, do the Oilers sit Neal?

If Neal is at 21 and Lucic is at 11 or less, do the Flames sit Lucic?

Pretty weird trade condition. It’s creative, but not sure I’ve ever seen one like that.

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11 hours ago, Dickie Dunn said:

If Neal is sitting at 20 and Lucic at 11 entering the final day, do the Oilers sit Neal?

If Neal is at 21 and Lucic is at 11 or less, do the Flames sit Lucic?

Pretty weird trade condition. It’s creative, but not sure I’ve ever seen one like that.

I was surprised by the trade condition too. The ones we usually hear about concern an RFA signing an extension with a team that trades for him at the deadline or if Team A advances past the first round of the playoffs they send a draft pick to Team B.

Rumor was Loui Erikkson vetoed a trade the Oilers and Canucks had in place for Lucic. The Oilers went to Plan B with Calgary.

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On 7/19/2019 at 7:30 PM, ffldrew said:

Leaf fans are going to freak when Barrie wants north of that.

Maybe? I've always viewed him as a rental. 

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Longterm deal for  a 3rd line guy? Whut?

@FriedgeHNIC: NASH and Colton Sissons avoid arbitration with a 7-year, $20M deal
 

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@CapFriendly: Another option for the #Leafs is to build a roster right up until the $81.5M ceiling, then place both Clarkson & Horton on LTIR once the season starts, and giving the club $10.55M in addional cap space. This scenario is only likely if Marner doesn't sign before the season begins. https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1153796541414379521

 

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Somehow this nets the Leafs about a million more in cap room to spend? They weren't able to use the full LTIR exemption amount with just Horton on LTIR but now they can? But really only once the season begins? It's apparently explained in a Twitter thread here that I also can't wrap my head around

I trust Kyle Dubas to know what he's doing but it seems there's some complicated cap gymnastics happening here that I assume Mirtle will at some point explain in simple terms. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Aaron Rudnicki said:

should trade for Marc Savard imo

6 minutes after this post he was announced as a new assistant coach in St. Louis :tinfoilhat:

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22 hours ago, AcerFC said:

Just wanted to say that Italy is awesome

So dope. Have a great trip.  

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5 minutes ago, JaxBill said:

Lightning have about 5.5 million left to sign Point and Erne.

Time for #offersheet?

He’s apparently said he won’t sign one. Bolts have obviously taken this into account. Speculation is he takes a bridge deal. 

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whew. that's a ton of money for him. Bobrovsky and Price clearly set the market, but maybe the days of Tampa getting everybody locked up to team-friendly deals is finally over?

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yeah, Point has no interest in leaving Tampa. Don't even think he's met with teams. Seems committed to stay and doesn't want to risk Tampa not matching anything he signs.

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4 minutes ago, Aaron Rudnicki said:

whew. that's a ton of money for him. Bobrovsky and Price clearly set the market, but maybe the days of Tampa getting everybody locked up to team-friendly deals is finally over?

Interesting thing will be to see if this deal sets the market for Matt Murray who's an RFA in 2020.

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13 minutes ago, Aaron Rudnicki said:

whew. that's a ton of money for him. Bobrovsky and Price clearly set the market, but maybe the days of Tampa getting everybody locked up to team-friendly deals is finally over?

I saw someone on twitter say FMV was 10/annual. No idea if that is correct or not. Seems high. 

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6 minutes ago, JaxBill said:

Interesting thing will be to see if this deal sets the market for Matt Murray who's an RFA in 2020.

too many injuries for him to try and get anything close to this.

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32 minutes ago, Aaron Rudnicki said:

Gusev to the Devils for a 2nd and 3rd. 

Going to be a pretty fun team to watch it seems. 

I am very interested to see how he does. 

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@CF_DepthCharts: Two years into it's existence, the Vegas Golden Knights have eight players on their roster that were acquired directly from the expansion draft.

Jonathan Marchessault
William Karlsson
Cody Eakin
William Carrier
Nate Schmidt
Brayden McNabb
Jon Merrill
Marc-Andre Fleury

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2 hours ago, Capella said:

I am very interested to see how he does. 

Why didn't he sign at draft. Was the 7th round a slap in face? I forget the particulars. Shame bolts couldn't directly benefit from that pick which would have been a steal. 

 

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12 minutes ago, ffldrew said:

Why didn't he sign at draft. Was the 7th round a slap in face? I forget the particulars. Shame bolts couldn't directly benefit from that pick which would have been a steal. 

 

He said they only offered him a 2-way contract and wanted him to develop in the AHL. He wasn’t interested in coming over without a 1-way deal and a legit shot to play with the big club. 

They traded his rights plus a 2nd to protect Koekkoek and Dotchin. Not sure that will end well. 

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51 minutes ago, Aaron Rudnicki said:

He said they only offered him a 2-way contract and wanted him to develop in the AHL. He wasn’t interested in coming over without a 1-way deal and a legit shot to play with the big club. 

They traded his rights plus a 2nd to protect Koekkoek and Dotchin. Not sure that will end well. 

Lol not Yzerman’s best move. They were both gone the next year. 

Edit: they did dump Jason Garrison on Vegas in the same deal, which was necessary. 

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Not sure why Sens doing the Lightning a solid. Gets them to the floor and still spending less???

You would think Sens would get a better pick.

@CapFriendly: TRADE:

To Ottawa #Senators
F Ryan Callahan
2020 5th RD pick (TBL)

To Tampa Bay #Lightning
G Mike Condon
2020 6th RD pick (OTT)

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades

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@MikeInBuffalo: Condon makes $3M in the final year of his deal, but has a cap hit of $2.4M and just over $1M of that can be buried if he is sent to the AHL. Callahan has a $5.8M cap hit ($4.7M in real money), but OTT will likely get a sizable chunk back from insurance since Callahan is injured. https://twitter.com/TBLightning/status/1156214495011901441

 

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2 minutes ago, JaxBill said:

Not sure why Sens doing the Lightning a solid. Gets them to the floor and still spending less???

You would think Sens would get a better pick.

@CapFriendly: TRADE:

To Ottawa #Senators
F Ryan Callahan
2020 5th RD pick (TBL)

To Tampa Bay #Lightning
G Mike Condon
2020 6th RD pick (OTT)

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades

Yzerman baby :heart: 

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The league should investigate the Sens owner for skirting the cap

 

@CapFriendly: Financial implications of the Callahan trade for the Ottawa #Senators:

Cap hit change: +$3,400,000
Salary expenses: -$2,060,000

This trade helps keep the Senators above the lower limit, while also decreasing the salary expenses.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/senators

 

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29 minutes ago, Capella said:

Yzerman baby :heart: 

@JamesDaher5: @CapFriendly Some one needs to update Ea sports NHL 20. These moves Tampa bay are making wont be accepted by sim in GM mode. Tampa gotta a cheat no one else has. Wow

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20 minutes ago, JaxBill said:

@JamesDaher5: @CapFriendly Some one needs to update Ea sports NHL 20. These moves Tampa bay are making wont be accepted by sim in GM mode. Tampa gotta a cheat no one else has. Wow

It was Breisbois all along 

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@capfriendly After trading Callahan, and assuming both Condon & Domingue will be assigned to the minors, we now show the #Lightning with $11,126,669 in projected cap space, based on a roster size of 20 (10F/8D/2G)

 

Two RFA's remain unsigned: Brayden Point & Adam Erne

 

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Imagine having to try to sell tickets or luxury boxes to this. 

"We're not just good, we're good enough."

 

@CapFriendly: #Sens are estimated to save $10.1M from injury insurance, & saved $5.5M in signing bonus expenses by trading for players whose SB were already paid

While we project the club to have a cap hit of $65.9M, their estimated NHL roster salary expense is $47.5M

The cap floor is $60.2M https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1156238664025935872/photo/1

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1 hour ago, JaxBill said:

The league should investigate the Sens owner for skirting the cap

 

@CapFriendly: Financial implications of the Callahan trade for the Ottawa #Senators:

Cap hit change: +$3,400,000
Salary expenses: -$2,060,000

This trade helps keep the Senators above the lower limit, while also decreasing the salary expenses.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/senators

 

hardly the first team to do it.  Toronto just did it last week.  yet somehow the NHL penalizes certain cap maneuvers, in hindsight mind you, with cap recapture penalties for contracts that were done completely legally at the time.

neat leeg

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