Biden 2016 does handle trump. But biden 2020 just seems... diminished. Trump gets him on tilt and he flustered mess.
I'm going on the merits of his presentation and how he will register, on the points, Hillary beat Trump in every debate last time but I think after a terrible first debate, the second one polled as a draw and most sentiment was with him for the third debate.
Trump can only lean so hard into a female debater, he looks ugly going after them in his conventional ways, the Fiorina was some of the uglier stuff last go. But a man, Biden, nailing him on his son, even now going after Bernie on his health, how he handles Pete will be curious to me but if cornered he will dogwhistle his ### off.
No one is watching this nonsense tonight. But Trump's final debates, those are going to be 20 million viewer heavy weight fights.