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Al Horford's smile as the Sixers are winning this game is pretty priceless. I feel kind of bad for Theis, was messed up for the Celtics to put him in a position to try and dunk with Embiid at the basket. 

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I came away from that 76ers/Celtics game wondering if Ingram is turning out to be a better player than Simmons. Siakam appears to be the steal of that draft at pick 27.

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Rajon Rondo gets called for a travel on a show & go move, but Tyler Herro can slide on his butt from the right side of the key to the left side and it's A-OK. Got it.

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somebody explain why the hack-a-ben makes sense.

sixers' offensive rating is 110.24.  That seems to me to translate to expected points per possession of 1.10.

Simmons shoots 58% from the line.  That makes it 1.16 expected points per possession right?

i guess there's an additional value to just stopping the clock?  and/or teams like the pelicans with no inside presence can't stop the sixers in a situation like this?

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24 minutes ago, EYLive said:

Rajon Rondo gets called for a travel on a show & go move, but Tyler Herro can slide on his butt from the right side of the key to the left side and it's A-OK. Got it.

how long has terrence mann been starting?

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Not a bad stat line for Harden tonight. 54 points on 19 of 31 shooting, including 10-15 from 3. Also threw in two steals and three blocks along with a game high 7 assists. Only attempted 6 free throws and made all six. 

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On 12/13/2019 at 8:22 PM, EYLive said:

Rajon Rondo gets called for a travel on a show & go move, but Tyler Herro can slide on his butt from the right side of the key to the left side and it's A-OK. Got it.

Look up the rule.  Sliding on the floor is not a travel, only when a player tries to turn over while on the ground.  You can slide from one end of the court to the other on the ground and it isn't a violation.  One of the most misunderstood rules in all of basketball.

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FWIW I am also not following the league closely at all these season, like the title says. Not sure why. I think it's a combo of a lot of things, some personal (Wiz suck and changed broadcasters, eg) and some related to the overall product.

Hoping the next ten days will be a turning point, though. I've already made a mental note to carve out time on Thursday for Bucks-Lakers, and then of course there's Xmas.  Time to dig back in.

ESPN Xmas commercial sucks though. I've seen it countless times and all I've learned is that LeBron's team is playing and that people like ham. I probably could have figured those things out without a commercial. Had to look up the matchups and schedule myself to sort it out.

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8 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

FWIW I am also not following the league closely at all these season, like the title says. Not sure why. I think it's a combo of a lot of things, some personal (Wiz suck and changed broadcasters, eg) and some related to the overall product.

Hoping the next ten days will be a turning point, though. I've already made a mental note to carve out time on Thursday for Bucks-Lakers, and then of course there's Xmas.  Time to dig back in.

ESPN Xmas commercial sucks though. I've seen it countless times and all I've learned is that LeBron's team is playing and that people like ham. I probably could have figured those things out without a commercial. Had to look up the matchups and schedule myself to sort it out.

you are in line with the rest of the watchers.

i think that it is probably a combination of the offseason being so crazy and so much more interesting than the regular season, that people are just burnt out and can't get revved up again.  I also imagine that many realize that the regular season is not that important, and this year that's as true as ever, as the top 5 or 6 teams largely are looking to just be in the best health come playoff time.  You would think that people would want to see how these new teams are looking, but it really means so little.  The playoffs should be fascinating, though, and the playoff race may be a little more interesting with some of the teams who are trying to jump up in the West.

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1 hour ago, Long Ball Larry said:

you are in line with the rest of the watchers.

i think that it is probably a combination of the offseason being so crazy and so much more interesting than the regular season, that people are just burnt out and can't get revved up again.  I also imagine that many realize that the regular season is not that important, and this year that's as true as ever, as the top 5 or 6 teams largely are looking to just be in the best health come playoff time.  You would think that people would want to see how these new teams are looking, but it really means so little.  The playoffs should be fascinating, though, and the playoff race may be a little more interesting with some of the teams who are trying to jump up in the West.

yeah, kind of agree. Just seems to not be much excitement out of a few teams. maybe it is overexposure, but i think your point about being burnt out is probably the closest to the top.

my guess is after the NFl regular season there will be a little bit of interest creeping in. it's a long season for the players, so the fanbases have to feel somewhat the same way

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My NBA consumption has been way, way down this season as well, but I think that has more to do with my frustration with my particular team rather than any issue I have with the league. 

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I've been watching more this season than in the past 5 seasons. The Lakers and Clippers being really good is the primary reason.

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I need to somehow condition myself to permanently give up on the Wolves. This team is absolutely brutal to watch. They’re a train wreck on both sides of the ball. Maybe they will do another 20 year rebuild. Need to hire someone to punch me the face whenever I look up Wolves content 

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1 hour ago, sports_fan said:

I need to somehow condition myself to permanently give up on the Wolves. This team is absolutely brutal to watch. They’re a train wreck on both sides of the ball. Maybe they will do another 20 year rebuild. Need to hire someone to punch me the face whenever I look up Wolves content 

I’ve been telling myself that for years with the Kings. The combo of not only regression this year in terms of wins and losses, but going from being one of the most fun, up tempo styles to an ugly, slow, grind it out team with Walton may have finally broken me. We’ll see if it sticks. 

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2 hours ago, EYLive said:

I've been watching more this season than in the past 5 seasons. The Lakers and Clippers being really good is the primary reason.

this is the definition of la sports fairweatherism but i have to admit it is at least refreshingly honest take that to the bank brohans 

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hats off to the mavs who have shot the lights out on the bangos tonight nice game mavhans take that to the bank 

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Bucks lose at home to Mavs sans Doncic.  They were without Bledsoe, but Middleton was ineffective all night.

If KP gets it going like he did tonight, Dallas could become a dark horse threat in the West....really the way Luka has been playing, they already are right there.

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4 hours ago, EYLive said:

I've been watching more this season than in the past 5 seasons. The Lakers and Clippers being really good is the primary reason.

Same here.  Lakes plus luka and giannis are worth tuning into on any given night.  Zion being out has been a bummer though.

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5 hours ago, SWC said:

hats off to the mavs who have shot the lights out on the bangos tonight nice game mavhans take that to the bank 

Porzingis hit that one three from Janesville. 

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NBA should start getting more interesting soon as real trade talk begins to develop approaching the deadline.....honestly its the same every year until football is over then NBA lights up.

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6 minutes ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

Domantas Sabonis is a really good basketball player. 

Dad was one of the most underrated players of all time. 

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26 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

Dad was one of the most underrated players of all time. 

Eh, Arvidas was never really underrated, he was just worn out and broken down by the time he got to the NBA. But man, watching some of those old Lithuania games...

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On 12/16/2019 at 4:51 PM, sports_fan said:

I need to somehow condition myself to permanently give up on the Wolves. This team is absolutely brutal to watch. They’re a train wreck on both sides of the ball. Maybe they will do another 20 year rebuild. Need to hire someone to punch me the face whenever I look up Wolves content 

I hear they're looking to draft some Wiggins kid from Canada, things might turn around when he gets there.

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On 12/16/2019 at 2:55 PM, TobiasFunke said:

FWIW I am also not following the league closely at all these season, like the title says. Not sure why. I think it's a combo of a lot of things, some personal (Wiz suck and changed broadcasters, eg) and some related to the overall product.

Hoping the next ten days will be a turning point, though. I've already made a mental note to carve out time on Thursday for Bucks-Lakers, and then of course there's Xmas.  Time to dig back in.

ESPN Xmas commercial sucks though. I've seen it countless times and all I've learned is that LeBron's team is playing and that people like ham. I probably could have figured those things out without a commercial. Had to look up the matchups and schedule myself to sort it out.

I’ll get in line come January. It’s just too much season to care right now. They need to gotten that schedule. 

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7 hours ago, Capella said:

I’ll get in line come January. It’s just too much season to care right now. They need to gotten that schedule. 

I usually speak typo but this one has me. Was it lighten? Shorten?

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6 minutes ago, DallasDMac said:

I usually speak typo but this one has me. Was it lighten? Shorten?

Yes. 

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8 hours ago, Capella said:

I’ll get in line come January. It’s just too much season to care right now. They need to gotten that schedule. 

Same. I usually don't get into basketball until after the Superbowl.

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i normally get in to basketball when there are people playing basketball because i really like basketball take that to the bank brohans and booo kobme

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The Heat with 2 of the top 10 candidates for rookie of the year in Nunn and Herro. And rookie Chris Silva who provides good backup minutes as a rebounder. Duncan Robinson is almost a rookie. In last night's close win over the 76ers, Nunn was +19 and Tyler was +4.

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4 minutes ago, SoBeDad said:

The Heat with 2 of the top 10 candidates for rookie of the year in Nunn and Herro. And rookie Chris Silva who provides good backup minutes as a rebounder. In last night's close win over the 76ers, Nunn was +19 and Tyler was +4.

heat's deep 3 game seemed hard for the Sixers who usually prioritize stopping 3s, despite all starters finally playing together.

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interesting stuff:

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Thanks to long-range specialists like Steph Curry and Damian Lillard, the deep three (aka, a shot from at least three feet beyond the arc) is on the rise in the NBA and has quickly become one of the most influential shots of the decade.

Why it matters: Within a matter of years, the deep three has changed the way NBA games are played — stretching defenses, opening up clear driving lanes and, perhaps most importantly, influencing the next generation.

By the numbers: "Go to an NBA game in 2019 and you're more than twice as likely to see a 27-foot jumper than a 16-footer," writes ESPN's Kirk Goldberry. "In 2013-14, those numbers were complete opposites."

Most deep threes in 2013-14: Lillard (1.4 per game), Kendall Marshall (1.2), Curry (1.1), Kyle Lowry (0.9), Jordan Crawford (0.9)

Most deep threes in 2019-20: Trae Young (6.3 per game), Luka Dončić (6.2), James Harden (5.9), Eric Gordon (4.9), Lillard (3.9)

The impact: NBA teams are increasingly taping down makeshift four-point lines on their practice courts to prepare their defenses for players willing to fire from there, while also encouraging better overall spacing habits.

The big picture: "Just as a young Kobe Bryant wanted to be like Mike, the prodigies of today seek to shoot like Curry and Lillard," writes Goldberry. "That means one thing for the future of the NBA: more deep-range splashes."

Go deeper: Three-pointers are leading the sports analytics revolution (Axios)

 

 

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On 12/16/2019 at 5:51 PM, sports_fan said:

I need to somehow condition myself to permanently give up on the Wolves. This team is absolutely brutal to watch. They’re a train wreck on both sides of the ball. Maybe they will do another 20 year rebuild. Need to hire someone to punch me the face whenever I look up Wolves content 

Sorry, man. @Frostillicus, too. The Pelicans are so flippin' bad ... but your guys apparently wanted it much less last night.

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On 12/16/2019 at 10:34 PM, Daywalker said:

Zion being out has been a bummer though.

Can't blame the kid ... but the Pelicans have gone from being "totally saved!" in the summer to "bags packed to leave N.O." today.

Well, not quite "bags packed" -- Gayle Benson is a determined lady. I read yesterday that she -- and she alone -- is keeping Alvin Gentry in New Orleans. Maybe she thinks stubbornly sticking with a coach for "too long", kinda like Sean Payton**, is just what you gotta do. I really don't know.

Meanwhile, you can practically walk into the Smoother King Center for free at game time. Place is half-full. The city will not spend money on a bad basketball team -- potential be damned.
 

** Sean Payton could've fairly gotten fired after the three 7-9/8-8 seasons 2014-16. Since then, Jeff Ireland has run the drafts and FAs and Payton has brought the team back. 

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- don't think we'll be seeing Zion this season.....hope we don't see Gentry, and the enthusiastic purposelessness he brings to the floor scheme, next season. I know the LA kids keep getting better & their teams keep getting worse, but i gotta think a Stevens, Carlisle or Spoelstra could have these kids clickin'.

- speaking of the Miami coach, there are few current NBA-watching pleasures better than watching coaching/concept thrashing talent like last night. Though Steve Kerr is proving that coaching without talent is a worthless endeavor, It's such a greater pleasure watching the few teams who know why they are on the floor better than their opponents. This is easily the least-coached season i've seen in almost 60 years as a fan, and i'm afraid my lagging viewership wont pick up after football's over this time.

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1 minute ago, wikkidpissah said:

- don't think we'll be seeing Zion this season.

Worries me a lot that he's this broken down at 19. Has anyone ever been this injury-prone so young and come back to be an elite NBA player? People were saying Blake Griffin and Joel Embiid, but were their knees shot as teens?

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Just now, Doug B said:

Worries me a lot that he's this broken down at 19. Has anyone ever been this injury-prone so young and come back to be an elite NBA player? People were saying Blake Griffin and Joel Embiid, but were their knees shot as teens?

don't think he's broken down at all. just don't think they want to tarnish his star-track w a team that's already played its way out of contention.

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Enjoyed the Celtics/Mavs game last night, the Mavs really move the ball well(Especially with Brunson's drive and kick game). The Mavs were getting good shots with their ball movement they just weren't hitting them. Celts played decent D but were a touch late quite a bit. 

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22 hours ago, Capella said:

I’ll get in line come January. It’s just too much season to care right now. They need to gotten that schedule. 

Sounds like a few FBGs are posting similar sentiments.  I do hope the NBA attempts a post-Thanksgiving Day single elimination tournament in the near future.  There's no real downside to trying it out.  Heck, work in the Elam ending for those games while they're at it.

4 hours ago, SoBeDad said:

The Heat with 2 of the top 10 candidates for rookie of the year in Nunn and Herro. And rookie Chris Silva who provides good backup minutes as a rebounder. Duncan Robinson is almost a rookie. In last night's close win over the 76ers, Nunn was +19 and Tyler was +4.

The Heat are an intriguing team to watch.  Adebayo looks shot out of a cannon this season and his passing game is second to only Jokic at the 5.  Seems to be a really good person as well.  Great core player to have for Miami.

19 minutes ago, Kraft... said:

Enjoyed the Celtics/Mavs game last night, the Mavs really move the ball well(Especially with Brunson's drive and kick game). The Mavs were getting good shots with their ball movement they just weren't hitting them. Celts played decent D but were a touch late quite a bit. 

Brunson has that crafty old man game.  Not sure he can be a starter for a Finals team, but he's an ideal #3 guard.  On offense the Mavs could really open up the paint with a stretch 5.  Porzingas can guard the rim on D, but the current 5's for Dallas just constrict the offense too much.  Some will say move Kristaps to the 5, but I'm just not sure he can stay healthy playing big minutes there.

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they really need to go to a cba style point system.  game within a game stuff.  

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Stifling defense by the Bucks without their best on ball defender. Very impressive half. Need to bring it in the 2nd as well.

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There garbage refs are ruining the league.
They blow a clean block from Lou Williams by calling a foul then call 2 techs on him because they have fragile egos and are inept. The league is better off firing all the officials and letting the player call their own fouls; at least there'd be some integrity.

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27 minutes ago, EYLive said:

There garbage refs are ruining the league.
They blow a clean block from Lou Williams by calling a foul then call 2 techs on him because they have fragile egos and are inept. The league is better off firing all the officials and letting the player call their own fouls; at least there'd be some integrity.

The call may have been poor, but the Clippers didn't stay within themselves tonight.  Numerous players overreacted to the officials and let the game get away from them.  Looked like the old CP3/Blake Clip show in the 2nd half.

With that said, the Rockets took this game from them in LA.  Primarily due to the sheer will of Russell Westbrook.  Harden had a rough start, but the Rockets defense was impressive down the stretch and Russ went to OKC hyper-aggressive mode.

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