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2019-20 NBA Thread: Frenchman leads way in surrendering of NBA season

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Just now, EYLive said:

:lmao: ANSwer MY quESTion!!! I knEWS it, you can't !!!! gwaaaharhar

I swear, dumb random innerweb guys are dumb.

oK DoOsh....

 

I'm not rANDOM.  You are  not nearly as smart as y9u think you R.

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Jones was better early, Gordon was better later. IMO Gordon’s second to last dunk was pretty average (given a 50) so the right guy won, but the wrong guy won the final round. 

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Just now, Ted Lange as your Bartender said:

Somehow Derrick Jones deserved to win while Gordon was also simultaneously robbed.  Illogical but that’s how it played out

Exactly what I was trying to say. 

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honestly, the dumb commentators were right.  CALL IT!  The contest is over!  Can't be improved.

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Silly that they don't incorporate 0.5’s into the dunk scoring. 

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I missed all of tonight because my daughter is an archer and all the tournaments are seek in Trump country Minnesota. It’s far enough out we are spending the night in a hotel after and there was a Wisconsin middle school wrestling team here who were so awfully behaved the cops had to come. Still had a better night than EYLive. 

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Enjoyed the Skills Challenge.  How talented the bigs like Adebayo and Sabonis are now is truly crazy.  The fact the 3pt contest could add a wrinkle that really worked was surprising and the fact the win-loss came down to the very last shot was cool to watch.  The Latvian Laser?  Great nickname, but Booker and Hield put on a show.

Last night was the best collection of dunks at this event...ever.  Whatever dunk you put #4 overall on the night could have easily been the highlight clip most years.  Then it happened.  Dwayne Wade did Aaron Gordon dirty for his teammate.  Right up there with Dominique getting robbed in 1988 against Jordan.  Any surprise both took place in Chicago?

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Last night reminded me that the Magic traded Sabonis and Oladipo for Serge Ibaka, who stayed for half a year before going to Toronto to win a title. 

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Just now, Capella said:

The intensity in this all star game is off the charts. 

Just tuned in, this is fantastic.  I hate the All-Star game, just dunks and 3s, but this is next level bball.  Lowry taking charges is outstanding.  I assume the first 3 quarters was usual terrible all-star crap.

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The Giannis D on LeBron a bit ago was incredible.  Made LeBron look feeble.  Giannis has been surprisingly invisible despite that thought.

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7 minutes ago, Zigg said:

Just tuned in, this is fantastic.  I hate the All-Star game, just dunks and 3s, but this is next level bball.  Lowry taking charges is outstanding.  I assume the first 3 quarters was usual terrible all-star crap.

I just saw the third and it was about as good as this. 

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Adrian Wojnarowski

@wojespn

Reporting with

@WindhorstESPN

: Cavaliers and John Beilein have discussed possibility of him stepping down as coach during the NBA All-Star Break. No decision’s been reached. After signing 5-year deal to leave Michigan, Beilein’s struggled w/ transition to NBA.

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This going to a certain score thing has been a fantastic idea.  The defense in this last 3-4 minutes has been unreal for an All Star game.

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2 minutes ago, encaitar said:

This going to a certain score thing has been a fantastic idea.  The defense in this last 3-4 minutes has been unreal for an All Star game.

Elam ending. Everybody should go to it. 

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Ending the game on a FT sucks though. You gotta check the ball out there. 

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I think they should expand this going forward.  Maybe make each quarter the first to 40?  The game was very intense at the end with the defense getting back involved.  This was easily the best ASG I can remember in a long time... maybe ever.

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The first 3 quarters had tons of action up and down the court, just like a regular all star game.  Very entertaining.  This is the first all star game that my kids have watched, and they loved seeing all of their favorites on the same court.

Then it turned into a regular NBA game and the last 45 minutes were full of fouls, free throws, and replays. Awful ending.

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I hope they keep this format. Usually it's boring east v west. 4th quarter was like a playoff game intensity. Loved it! #teamlebron 

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As a casual observer, good job NBA. I watched 2 nights I would typically marginally check in or avoid completely.

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How long until the Elam ending is adopted for all games?  Someday...please?

Best all-star game in a very, very long time.  Great format changes.

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I just wanted to check out the Kobe tribute.  Bugs the crap out of me when singers try to milk their moment by dragging out notes on forever.  She did it all song long.

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4 hours ago, Rodrigo Duterte said:

My God, now Chaka Khan doing the same crap.  It's actually even worse.  Poor National Anthem,  just got butchered.

Yeah Chaka Khan was awful. I was in another room listening and felt my face cringe up about 4 times. 

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Was working during the dunk contest but had a chance to re-watch the highlights on YouTube.  Great contest—but really should have ended with co-winners in my opinion.  Each judge should just put their own scores down without communicating with one another.  Sometimes it took so much time to get their scores in that it seemed like they were conversing with each other trying to manipulate the results.  

Love the new format of the all star game. It really blends organized basketball with the three timed quarters with street ball with the “first to this score” wins dynamic.   If I had to change one thing (especially since charities are involved)—I do wish that if the teams should have a tied quarter in the first three—that they should just split the $100k price money for that quarter between the two charities instead of doubling the prize to the next quarter.   Regardless—I really enjoyed the format

In regards to the result of last nights game-I do put the loss of Team Giannis on Nick Nurse.  He basically made little to no changes on his fourth quarter lineup even though they were getting grossly outplayed by team  Lebron. Going into that quarter with a healthy lead—he could have put his best offensive players in (Trae, Donovan for example) and even if they ended up trading buckets—they win the game. On the final possession after that timeout when team lebron had the ball-Nurse should have put his best defenders in (guys like gobert) knowing that team lebron didn’t need a three to win. I thought he did a nice job coaching team giannis through three quarters—but he really did a terrible job managing the fourth.  The fact that I’m even analyzing an all star game goes to show that it was pretty awesome. 

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21 hours ago, Ramblin Wreck said:

Adrian Wojnarowski

@wojespn

Reporting with

@WindhorstESPN

: Cavaliers and John Beilein have discussed possibility of him stepping down as coach during the NBA All-Star Break. No decision’s been reached. After signing 5-year deal to leave Michigan, Beilein’s struggled w/ transition to NBA.

strange situation.  larry drew to the courtesy phone?

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36 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

strange situation.  larry drew to the courtesy phone?

How about a fan promotion- buy a lower bowl seat and you can be cavs coach for the day! 

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Beilien leaving Michigan to go coach nba was definitely one of the more wtf coaching moves I’ve ever seen. That just screamed disaster from the start. Some people are just college coaches. 

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3 hours ago, Long Ball Larry said:

Sixers should consider firing Brett brown at halftime

honestly, this team is just as likely to make the finals as they are to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs. I was thinking the other day, across the 4 major sports, of a team that was ever similar to this Sixers team this year. And it is funny because after the game the whole story is how much of a stud Embiid is. Wish they would focus more on the 20 point lead the Nets had in the 1st half to focus on. 

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they were saying on sports radio this morning that embide is a modern day game changer that you could actually build a post offense around but the problem is that he refuses to actually want to play there the entire game and will stop dominating in the paint and stand out on the perimeter so let me ask you philly guys is that him just losing focus or drive or is that the coaching staff changing the offensive set also if that is totally wrong my apologies i dont get to see a lot of them and i am going solely by mike and mike or whatever they are called now take that to the bank bromigos 

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8 hours ago, modogg said:

honestly, this team is just as likely to make the finals as they are to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs. I was thinking the other day, across the 4 major sports, of a team that was ever similar to this Sixers team this year. And it is funny because after the game the whole story is how much of a stud Embiid is. Wish they would focus more on the 20 point lead the Nets had in the 1st half to focus on. 

They are extremely more likely to lose in round 1 than they are to make the finals. Come to reality please. 

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On 2/18/2020 at 11:01 PM, Capella said:

Beilien leaving Michigan to go coach nba was definitely one of the more wtf coaching moves I’ve ever seen. That just screamed disaster from the start. Some people are just college coaches. 

I don't know if he was destined to fail in the NBA. But this specific team? Yep. It's a loser's culture with no leadership. You either rally behind the guy trying to map the organization's way out of it...or shut him out because you're content being a loser.

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1 hour ago, SWC said:

they were saying on sports radio this morning that embide is a modern day game changer that you could actually build a post offense around but the problem is that he refuses to actually want to play there the entire game and will stop dominating in the paint and stand out on the perimeter so let me ask you philly guys is that him just losing focus or drive or is that the coaching staff changing the offensive set also if that is totally wrong my apologies i dont get to see a lot of them and i am going solely by mike and mike or whatever they are called now take that to the bank bromigos 

To a certain extent Brown wants Embiid on the perimeter at times, but I think the bigger issue is his conditioning.  As the games goes on he wants to hang out at the 3 point line so he has less distance to cover up and down the court.  Just my :2cents:

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9 hours ago, SWC said:

they were saying on sports radio this morning that embide is a modern day game changer that you could actually build a post offense around but the problem is that he refuses to actually want to play there the entire game and will stop dominating in the paint and stand out on the perimeter so let me ask you philly guys is that him just losing focus or drive or is that the coaching staff changing the offensive set also if that is totally wrong my apologies i dont get to see a lot of them and i am going solely by mike and mike or whatever they are called now take that to the bank bromigos 

basketball is a game that seeks special talent but turns it into wins by developing counter plays for when the defense ventures to guard against that special talent. that's been at the heart of basketball since the beginning. thing is, that special talent has to play to those adjustmets and find the open man as much as take it home himself. the prolim with ball these days is that a player's cred is all tied up in how much he's beyond coaching. Embiid's case is not unlike a previous Sixer big man (Wilt - the greatest post player of all time) who turned unstoppability into losses by defying scheme. JoJo's coach hasn't the strength or standing to tell either he or Philly's other diffident star what to do with the ball when, they dont have a Mo Cheeks to keep em fed & happy (CP3 would be a perfect PG for Embiid), so they will always flail and usually fail. and you can take that to da hole, bro&roll

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On 2/18/2020 at 7:57 PM, mr fancypants said:

So the John Beilein era is officially over. JB Bickerstaff to assume head coach duties.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/john-beilein-to-exit-as-cavaliers-coach-wednesday-be-replaced-by-jb-bickerstaff-per-report/

He called his team 'thugs' really early on and never recovered from that gaffe.  Players would play music with the word 'thug' in the lyrics when he was around.  Whoops.  Old crusty curmudgeon white man calls young black men thugs, you'll never believe what happens next!

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24 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

He called his team 'thugs' really early on and never recovered from that gaffe.  Players would play music with the word 'thug' in the lyrics when he was around.  Whoops.  Old crusty curmudgeon white man calls young black men thugs, you'll never believe what happens next!

Nah, that was in January - the locker room tuned him out long before that gaffe.

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6 hours ago, Tom Hagen said:

To a certain extent Brown wants Embiid on the perimeter at times, but I think the bigger issue is his conditioning.  As the games goes on he wants to hang out at the 3 point line so he has less distance to cover up and down the court.  Just my :2cents:

I’ve posted about this before, but this is a prime reason why a center can’t be a 2 way focal point for a great team these days, not just an Embiid issue. Asking a guy to anchor a modern team’s defense, then run the full length of the floor and bully the other team’s bigs, effectively for 60+ times a game is too much to ask of anybody. 

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