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2019-20 NBA Thread: new forum, same great taste (11 Viewers)
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
If Butler and Paul are on the same team, Someone is getting murdered in that organization somehow
Frostillicus
Footballguy
caustic
Footballguy
Capella
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Frostillicus
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Amazing. Probably their best hope of ever creating a "super team"
Though we're talking about the same franchise that took Durant/Westbrook/Harden in back-to-back-to-back years and somehow never won a title. I don't watch much TV, have they done a 30-for-30 on this yet??? Everytime I see Kendrick Perkins or a tweet of his, it's all I think about
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Judge Smails
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Really loved Chris Paul's game and thought he'd eventually win a championship. Now, not so much. Terrible contract for everyone not in the Paul family, Father Time catching up, won't play second fiddle. But he's gettin' paid.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Can't wait to see how the spoiled OKC fanbase deals with the upcoming 8-year "process."
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Has anyone read this story on Twitter? It seems that every other tweet about Chris Paul has a clip of some short, pudgy dude having a meltdown at a bakery.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Westbrook's terrible with the ball! Iso, running PNR, terrible! Their offense works because Harden's an elite iso and pnr player, with guys who are excellent at spotting up (incl Paul), and a good roll man in Capella.
Maybe Morey's operating at a higher frequency than I am, but I can't see how this makes basketball sense.
bigbottom
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Deamon
Footballguy
just came to say the identical thing. Pacers may be better but the experience and star talent on the other teams give them a better shot to win the whole thing. Would be blown away if Indiana were nba champs next year.
Jayrod
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Insein
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SHIZNITTTT
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Kawhi never would have carried them anyway.
It’s far more likely that he wanted nothing to do with the circus that the Lakers have become, one that Magic always takes to the next level by always yapping to the media. Magic isn’t technically part of the organization anymore, but he still represents them in a big way.
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TobiasFunke
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I think he means you had one losing season when you got a new franchise followed by seven years of winning, many of which put the team in legitimate contention for the title.
That's not how it works most of the time. Generally when you get a new or sold+moved franchise in this or any sport you're looking at many years of rebuilding before you even crack .500. It took the Raptors 20 years to post a 50 win season. It took the Hornets 7 years and they still haven't reached the conference finals 30 years later. Riley and the Heat needed 9 years to build a contender. The Grizzlies needed a decade to make it out of the first round of the playoffs after the move from Vancouver and they still haven't reached the Finals. That's what NBA reality is for most fans.
That said, I think most NBA fans would still happily swap franchises with Oklahoma City. They are going to have a relatively quick rebuild and are probably gonna be a terrifying force when it's done. If you had to put up odds for the 2026 NBA title you figure they'd be one of the favorites, I think.
Long Ball Larry
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can't wait to see Presti find the next James Harden in the draft and then trade him away as soon as possible.Amazing. Probably their best hope of ever creating a "super team"
Though we're talking about the same franchise that took Durant/Westbrook/Harden in back-to-back-to-back years and somehow never won a title. I don't watch much TV, have they done a 30-for-30 on this yet??? Everytime I see Kendrick Perkins or a tweet of his, it's all I think about
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
I am just hoping that OKC doesn't become a farm team in the future for other franchises. OKC has a great fan base.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I think it's kind of tough to evaluate the fan base when they've yet to experience the trials that the rest of us have endured. But as for the farm team thing, I can't imagine that happening any more than it happens to the other NBA franchises in less desirable/populous destinations. They are locked and loaded for the long term. I'd give my left ### to swap the personnel, front office and assets of the Thunder and the Wizards.
modogg
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on same hand, I can see Indiana stretch most series to 7 games. Luckily Sixers match up well with them, but they are definitely the overlooked team
modogg
Footballguy
Presti is doing a wonderful job. I don't see any way they use all those 1st round picks themselves, but man they can get almost anybody with the amount of unprotected firsts they have. they don't have to make that jump immediately, but their assets at this point are superior to pretty much everyone. Pelicans are in conversation, but a few of the young guys they have are due for their extensions this year or next
ffldrew
Footballguy
Problem with a lot of those firsts as it stands today are that they are going to be late round picks. You are better off with 2nd round picks at that point so you avoid guaranteed money.
Insein
Footballguy
I think they're banking on the Clippers and Rockets to fall apart by the time the picks come due.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
and Heat. I do think there is some point at which the future is too hard to even reasonably assign a value to and 2026 is definitely on that line, but when you consider how many picks they own from different teams (including themselves and also Denver 2020), their asset portfolio (
) is really diversified. I mean, all of these picks are really valuable a few years from now once Harden, Morey, Kawhi, George, Jerry West, Butler, Paul, and Pat Riley are all dead and gone and Tilman Fertitta and Steve Ballmer are somewhere trying to open a high-tech casino...2021 MIA (HOU 5-30 swap right)
2023 Own (LAC swap right)
2023 MIA (15-30)
2024 Own 2024
LAC 2024
HOU (5-30)
2026 LAC
2026 HOU (5-30)
Insein
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It's also not about making the pick every time. They can use these to get whoever is the stud player of the time who may not like their current team. Obviously best case is draft 2-3 studs and build around them.and Heat. I do think there is some point at which the future is too hard to even reasonably assign a value to and 2026 is definitely on that line, but when you consider how many picks they own from different teams (including themselves and also Denver 2020), their asset portfolio (
2021 MIA (HOU 5-30 swap right)
2023 Own (LAC swap right)
2023 MIA (15-30)
2024 Own 2024
LAC 2024
HOU (5-30)
2026 LAC
2026 HOU (5-30)
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
It has been crazy. 10 years when we look back at this off season it seems likely the biggest move will have been the Blazers somehow letting Jake Layman go the the T Wolves.
Frostillicus
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wikkidpissah
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Jayrod
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wikkidpissah
Footballguy
saw that live. wish his game were better so it wouldnt be a stone minus for guys to be deckin' him.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Tobias Harris saying Simmons drained two 3s on him while playing one-on-one in recent workout and that his jumper looks good and confident.
Vanilla Guerrilla
Footballguy
I was at a bar once and told a gal that my buddy was a good guy. Wing man's job.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I don’t think that’s the case at all, most of their good picks don’t come due until 2022 on and then you’d need time for the players to develop. I mean I like what they did given the circumstances, but they might not have any real developed All-Stars for a good long time.
Insein
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Yea I like Tobi but there is a difference between one on one and in an NBA game. If Ben starts taking shots, that's the first step. If he starts making shots, that's step 2. Step 4, profit... For us. He's already gonna get paid.
NutterButter
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modogg
Footballguy
he sinks them a lot pre game. It is the inability to even attempt during live 5-on-5 which is worrisome. he can shoot them though. It does seem that this year he will be trying some, that's what I am looking forward to the most with the first 3-4 games of the season if he makes any attempts.
No, but they have the ammo to go trade for whoever they want. Adams is still early in his prime. If SGA is as good as people think he is, they can go reload with a couple more stars real quick (maybe Beal and someone after the Wizards start 5-25).
TobiasFunke
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Yeah, maybe 20207 or 2028. Although the flip side is that they're gonna start sucking and getting high lottery picks pretty much immediately, and if they hit on one or two of them all those draft assets and cap space can be transformed into established players to pair with the draft hits.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
i'm torn between loving CP3 on Elba and not wanting OKCers (who already have to pay a toll to go to Tulsa) to suffer.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
He signed Chris Paul to a gigantic max contract, maybe he's not that smart either.
That would have interfered with Scott Perry’s general strategy of signing mediocre veterans to big money, short term deals.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I think the whole trade for whoever they want is overblown. For non-top 20 NBA guys sure, but the top guys continue to force their way out of places like OKC not to OKC. It’s going to be their weird guy that stays out of the major markets.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Waiting for 2021 free agency isn't the worst of strategies if you're obviously not a contender right now. Of course what they do when it arrives is another story.
Capella
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