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2019-20 NBA Thread: I’m not following the league at all right now tbh

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51 minutes ago, caustic said:

Oh wow, I didn’t catch this before - that’s pretty wild. Both the timing and the value of this extension surprised me. I was honestly expecting Levert to play this season out and elevate his value after last year’s huge injury, ending up with an extension in the $20-22MM/yr range. I suppose with his injury history, he thought it would be wise to take the $52MM while it was still on the table. Can’t say I blame him.

DeMarcus Cousins is probably a cautionary tale to many right now.

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4 minutes ago, Gr00vus said:

DeMarcus Cousins is probably a cautionary tale to many right now.

Nerlens Noel too.  If a player passes on that life-changing offer...there are no guarantees it will be there again.  Agents don't have much incentive to push players to take those deals either.

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On 8/23/2019 at 6:39 PM, Gr00vus said:

Hey @SWC - NBA channel is playing a Kobe marathon all day tomorrow. I figured you'd want to make time for that.

well i am sure that all the hypocrites in la la land who will protest harvey weinstine but sit an arena under a banner for a guy who bought his way out of similar charges no questions asked  will be tuned in i on the other hand will not take that to the bank bromigo  

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On 8/23/2019 at 6:35 PM, Gr00vus said:

Dwight Howard is a Laker again. It ought to be an entertaining season. Not necessarily a successful season, but an entertaining one.

We did it!!

Please let Melo be next.

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2 minutes ago, Jayrod said:

We did it!!

Please let Melo be next.

As of now I believe the Lakers roster is full at 15. They might release Cousins somehow I've heard, but I'm not sure how that works.

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So Howard is going to wear #39.  I love the comment, "It is weird he would want his FT% to be his jersey number, but you do you, Dwight!!" 

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On 8/26/2019 at 12:35 PM, Gr00vus said:

DeMarcus Cousins is probably a cautionary tale to many right now.

Arrest warrant issued for Cousins. So, yeah...

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3 hours ago, Capella said:

So is anybody watching this World Cup?

nope. if I knew when they were on I may tune in, and sounds like the last game was kind of fun with Ilyasova and Korkmaz taking the US to OT but just collapsing in OT. but now with the NFL getting ready to start I can't imagine I would see any of the games unless it was in my way

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59 minutes ago, modogg said:

nope. if I knew when they were on I may tune in, and sounds like the last game was kind of fun with Ilyasova and Korkmaz taking the US to OT but just collapsing in OT. but now with the NFL getting ready to start I can't imagine I would see any of the games unless it was in my way

I didn't even realize there was a World Cup.

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15 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

An NBA twitter saga, in three parts

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

 

The best league.

Thanks Tobes. Today I learned Bill Simmons is still sort of a thing. That's a shame.

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5 hours ago, modogg said:

nope. if I knew when they were on I may tune in, and sounds like the last game was kind of fun with Ilyasova and Korkmaz taking the US to OT but just collapsing in OT. but now with the NFL getting ready to start I can't imagine I would see any of the games unless it was in my way

Yea whomever scheduled this thing is a group of total idiots. They took the only country who might be mildly interested in it and completely wiped them out from watching. Insanity. 

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I am an Eric Gordon fan, but 4/75.6 seems bit rich for a guy at his age on a team that doesn't want to pay the tax.

edit: although i now see that the 4th year is NG so 3/54 is certainly more palatable.

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Team USA basketball's downfall might be happening much sooner then I even predicted if the top stars don't even compete. Just shows how far along the other countries have come in the last 10 or so yrs while the US lack of depth after you take away their top guys is glaring. I'm not saying sound the alarms the US is doomed just yet but if this #### keeps up US won't be medaling the next olympics and it might be the reality wake up check call USA/Basketball needs. We've gotten really complacent and cocky about our status over the last decade and haven't really helped develop any new talents that aren't our superstars. I honestly hope we fail just to give this country a wake up call that maybe its time to go to a different plan on player development before its too late 

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4 minutes ago, DJackson10 said:

Team USA basketball's downfall might be happening much sooner then I even predicted if the top stars don't even compete. Just shows how far along the other countries have come in the last 10 or so yrs while the US lack of depth after you take away their top guys is glaring. I'm not saying sound the alarms the US is doomed just yet but if this #### keeps up US won't be medaling the next olympics and it might be the reality wake up check call USA/Basketball needs. We've gotten really complacent and cocky about our status over the last decade and haven't really helped develop any new talents that aren't our superstars. I honestly hope we fail just to give this country a wake up call that maybe its time to go to a different plan on player development before its too late 

It’s not cocky at all. Maybe our 15th best player is the star of the team? Mitchell also in the top-25? That’s it. If this team had Lebron, Kawhi, Curry, Klay, Aaron Gordon, Harden etc every game would be a murder scene. 

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I mean for God’s sake Joe Harris and that mediocre point guard for the Spurs that Pop is carrying around are logging major minutes out there. 

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14 minutes ago, Capella said:

It’s not cocky at all. Maybe our 15th best player is the star of the team? Mitchell also in the top-25? That’s it. If this team had Lebron, Kawhi, Curry, Klay, Aaron Gordon, Harden etc every game would be a murder scene. 

I disagree. Harden isn't great for the FIBA rules. Russ is a lot better player (I mean productivity overall of helping the team) then harden would be as Russ's play fits FIBA and International rules and he even has said he'd like for NBA to adapt to a lot of these rules. Lebron may not play another international game now that his kids are growing. Kawhi then becomes our best player. Not sure Gordon is a fit with international rules as you need consistency stretching the floor with the bigs. Klay and Curry there? I could see if they were healthy playing. My point is what happens if more of our top guys decide to pull out what happened this year more often? We're in trouble. 

We need to stop with this mentality of "well the above guys didn't play" because they aren't gonna save us if they refuse to not play these games in the long run. We lack overall player development. I've been harping for awhile I'd like America to go change the rules to more international. I think some of these NBA rules saturate the game today 

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3 minutes ago, DJackson10 said:

I disagree. Harden isn't great for the FIBA rules. Russ is a lot better player (I mean productivity overall of helping the team) then harden would be as Russ's play fits FIBA and International rules and he even has said he'd like for NBA to adapt to a lot of these rules. Lebron may not play another international game now that his kids are growing. Kawhi then becomes our best player. Not sure Gordon is a fit with international rules as you need consistency stretching the floor with the bigs. Klay and Curry there? I could see if they were healthy playing. My point is what happens if more of our top guys decide to pull out what happened this year more often? We're in trouble. 

We need to stop with this mentality of "well the above guys didn't play" because they aren't gonna save us if they refuse to not play these games in the long run. We lack overall player development. I've been harping for awhile I'd like America to go change the rules to more international. I think some of these NBA rules saturate the game today 

Look man, team USA hasn’t lost since like 2004 before an Australia exhibition last week. They’re fine, I can’t really be worried about a team that won 180 straight. There are 20+ players who could be on the team but aren’t. They’re doing the best they can with a weak roster. 

 

 

(I was kidding about Gordon but I can tell how it’s not obvious when this team has Derrick White on it) 

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1 hour ago, Capella said:

It’s not cocky at all. Maybe our 15th best player is the star of the team? Mitchell also in the top-25? That’s it. If this team had Lebron, Kawhi, Curry, Klay, Aaron Gordon, Harden etc every game would be a murder scene. 

I enjoy how you slipped Gordon into that list... :lmao: 

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I'm waiting for the team to put on an age limit and keep this just for the younger kids (then I remember shoe companies would riot).  Wouldn't mind seeing a token 'old man' of the team.  Like an Udonis Haslem of the Heat, but for USA basketball this year it would have been Dwayne Wade.

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20 minutes ago, Frostillicus said:

Nobody cares about international basketball.

We had huge threads discussing the prior teams you doofus 

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15 minutes ago, Frostillicus said:

We did?

We excluded you because your opinions are terrible. 

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9 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

What if Jake Layman was playing?

Still nobody would watch because it would blowouts of Dream Team proportions.

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i like international basketball because i have an international flare about me some times i will eat a spicy burrito and sometimes i will call my fries chips i am just a little zany like that so i support cappy take that to the bank brochachos 

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:lmao: @ "player development"

Player enticement would be the bigger need.  It just isn't worth their while for the best players to play in international competitions, especially in non-Olympic years.

We have plenty of developed players, just not enough of our best are willing to risk injury for 'Merica.

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can't wait for the season to start - it's our new Celtic leaders that made it possible for Team USA to take Turkey to overtime!!

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On 9/3/2019 at 3:59 PM, Capella said:

Yea whomever scheduled this thing is a group of total idiots. They took the only country who might be mildly interested in it and completely wiped them out from watching. Insanity. 

I think you are overstating the interest here in the US and understating it abroad. The tournament is in China, wouldn't be surprised if over a billion people watched one of these games. 

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23 hours ago, Moe. said:

I think you are overstating the interest here in the US and understating it abroad. The tournament is in China, wouldn't be surprised if over a billion people watched one of these games. 

I think a billion is too high. 

But ya a lot of them there are probably watching, and Canadians are probably more into it than Americans.  We actually have a decent amount of NBA players in thre.

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On 9/5/2019 at 1:59 PM, Moe. said:

I think you are overstating the interest here in the US and understating it abroad. The tournament is in China, wouldn't be surprised if over a billion people watched one of these games. 

You could be right for sure. 

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2 hours ago, Moe. said:

Damn Serbia lost to Argentina. Messi wasn’t even playing 

wow.

latest dunc'd on is a FIBA world cup blowout with Kristian Polotie if anyone  wants to know what is going on/has happened and hasn't  watched minute (like me...)

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U.S. Mint: News Release

United States Mint Unveils 2020 Basketball Hall of Fame Coin Designs

SPPRINGFIELD, MA — The United States Mint (Mint) unveiled designs for the 2020 Basketball Hall of Fame Coin Program today during the 2019 Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame Enshrinement Ceremony at Springfield Symphony Hall.

The designs will be featured on three dome-shaped coins: a $5 gold, a $1 silver, and a half-dollar clad. Public Law 115-343 authorizes the minting and issuance of these coins in recognition of the 60th anniversary of the founding of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

The common obverse (heads) design was selected from a public competition as required by the authorizing legislation. The winning design, by Mint Artistic Infusion Program (AIP) artist Justin Kunz, portrays the fast pace, intensity, and hands-on action of a basketball game—the constant, competitive struggle for possession of the ball and the skill required to clear the hoop. The design features three players reaching for the ball in unison, reflecting how the sport of basketball has brought together diverse people around the world through a simple, universal, and unifying athletic experience. Their arms are slightly elongated to emphasize the full exertion of physical and mental energy required to excel in this sport. The rim and net are subtle background design elements complementing the three players. Inscriptions are “LIBERTY,” “IN GOD WE TRUST,” and “2020.”

The common reverse design, by AIP artist Donna Weaver, depicts a basketball about to pass through the net, with the inscriptions of “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” and “E PLURIBUS UNUM.” Additional inscriptions include “FIVE DOLLARS” on the gold coin, “ONE DOLLAR” on the silver dollar, and “HALF DOLLAR” on the clad coin.

Line art of both designs is availablehere

The legislation authorizes the Mint to strike and issue up to 50,000 $5 gold coins, 400,000 $1 silver coins, and 750,000 half–dollar clad coins. Surcharges collected from coin sales—$35 for each gold coin, $10 for each silver coin, and $5 for each half–dollar coin—are authorized to be paid to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame to fund an endowment that will enable increased operations and educational programming.

About the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame
The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame is an independent non-profit 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to promoting, preserving, and celebrating the game of basketball at every level – men and women, amateur and professional players, coaches and contributors, both domestically and internationally. Located in Springfield, Massachusetts, the birthplace of basketball, it is home to more than 400 inductees and more than 40,000 square feet of basketball history.

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Utah Jazz showing out a bit in the World Cup. I've been a big fan of Gobert's for a little while now, and Mitchell is pretty electric as well. They are the Celtics of the West!

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Only caught the 4th quarter but it seemed like the US spent the entire time trying to get gobert into PNR and driving him for challenged layups (many of which he smothered at the rim)

Isn't he kinda considered the best big man PNR defender on the planet? Seems like a losing strategy, especially with smaller guards like kemba.

Not sure why they didn't try using Lopez more to pull him away from the basket with some pick and pop stuff

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12 minutes ago, TLEF316 said:

Not sure why they didn't try using Lopez more to pull him away from the basket with some pick and pop stuff

The second Popovich was named coach this seemed like the eventual result.  The guy almost played Derrick White more minutes than Myles Turner & Brook Lopez...combined.  Thankfully Plumlee made the team though.

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Wild seeing Derrick White and Marcus Smart our there in the 4th quarter of a must-win game. Pop really screwed that up. 

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welp, we can't even beat the foreigns anymore. might as well just shut down basketball in America.

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4 hours ago, mr. furley said:

welp, we can't even beat the foreigns anymore. might as well just shut down basketball in America.

"Like in 2008, when the Redeem Team was on a mission to restore the country's place in the world, urgency just arrived. And this time it's not because of the losing team's failure but of an uncomfortable reality. To win, America needs more of its best."

 

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But nobody cares about FIBA. Including the top American players. Win, lose, meh.

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