Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (4 Viewers)
- Thread starter knowledge dropper
- Start date
boots11234
Footballguy
If we all ignore the poster in question perhaps he’ll just go away.Very. No surprise, happens all the time. Some guys report sunshine , others report seemingly everything. Then they want to engage in discussion and are appalled when they are dismissed as fluff.
boots11234
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
HellToupee
Footballguy
Definitely wouldn’t engage or indulge him in any conversation. Problem is he’s like a tattletale in grammar school , imo. It’s like a hobby for him to report people he politically disagrees with , imo of course
boots11234
Footballguy
It would be for example, now this is strictly an example mind you, how pigeons treat a wounded pigeon with a broken leg. They leave it alone and eventually it just limps away and dies presumably.
dkp993
Footballguy
boots11234
Footballguy
We get thinned out here quick. Loose one and we’re down 25% of the total supporters OnThis board.
Last edited by a moderator:
The Future Champs
Footballguy
The Rolling Stones have repeatedly Asked Trump to quit using their song.
Just something to think about. Or don’t think. Your choice.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Sounds like he is legally allowed to use these songs and it’s not the artists call.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The song is about Maryanne Faithfull’s heroine addiction and her ability to manipulate people in order to score. He’s totally entitled to use it, the question is why people just blithely ignore the message.
Last edited by a moderator:
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I doubt a lot of people know the original message of 50-year old songs. They apply certain lines of the song to today and enjoy the music.
HellToupee
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Wishing our leader a great President’s Day. Hopefully he gets some well deserved R&R on his day.
Oooof, that's the biggest But Trump! hot take I've heard in awhile. Frustration must be setting in.
Widbil83
Footballguy
Yep which stinks. And Noonan is on a long vacation. He could be on the Corona zombie cruise ship being turned away at every port.
I think nobody will have a majority of the delegates heading into the convention. It’s pretty likely, IMO, that the two candidates with the most delegates will be Sanders and Bloomberg, who aren’t really Democrats.
My hope is that the contested convention will bypass those two front-runners and coalesce behind an actual Democrat like Buttigieg or Klobuchar, who will go on to win in November.
So, basically, yes.
Last edited by a moderator:
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I think this line at Obama is interesting because IIRC Obama was the first modern president to lose electoral votes and win. Trump has much less room (304-227, 77 / ~39 EV difference) than Obama did vs his first run (365-173, 192 / ~97 EV difference). Obama won 2012 by 126, so he lost 66 EVs after having been +2.1 at this point.
Last edited by a moderator:
The General
Footballguy
Agree with this. I do think both Pete or Amy could win but I agree with the betting markets that have Trump a slight favorite right now.
I disagree about Bloomberg but that he isn’t out there talking is a huge red flag. He’s the media expert so he’s probably got it all plotted out but seems bad at the moment.
Republican's to win the presidency is -180 and Trump specifically at -170. The best (or worst) it's ever been. That's my point.
Oddsshark:
Bloomberg is the only guy favored head to head.
Last edited by a moderator:
The General
Footballguy
Don’t you think those odds come down when the Dems have one candidate? I think these odds reflect them crapping the bed and being all over the place.
GoBirds
Footballguy
If Trump were to lose do we like Bloomberg better than the other old career politicians on the Left from a small business owner perspective?
Shula-holic
Footballguy
I do, simply because I believe Bloomberg is just saying what it takes to get elected. Take his stop and frisk reversal, it came only when he decided to run for President years later. Less than a year ago he is on tape saying he would never go on an apology tour like Joe Biden, yet here he is. I think if he got in office he's not going to be as anti-business as many of the others.
Currently, that's what the head to head odds represent. Bloomberg is the only one favored -105/+125. Pete or Bernie are +125/-105
MT talks about a contested election in hopes of getting Pete or Amy the nomination. If Pete has to get it that way I suspect his odds go down.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I have no idea, haven't had the opportunity to hear him talk yet. I don't think he's on the stage Wednesday.
I suppose I should start reading about him.
So you're saying bet on the favorite based on the favorite winning the Superbowl two years ago? Because last year Trump was about +450 at this point.
Last edited by a moderator:
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
We’ll see. Unless there’s some disaster at the Dem Convention I’d expect these betting lines to tighten up. To close to 50/50 as the margin of victory is razor thin.
Trump has had his best month or so maybe over his whole 3 years but still has those unfavorable numbers that are locked in no matter what he does at this point.
Completely different set of horses in 2012. It would be hard to draw any conclusions there.
The General
Footballguy
Yeah like the article title says that could happen.
Sanders versus everyone else. Sanders has the most rabid supporters.
Of course it could. Right now it’s about 33% of a chance, and that’s baked into the odds. The difference being if it happens it goes to 100% baked in and I don’t think it’s a good thing by nature. And if Pete or someone else is picked by the superdelegates that isn’t the favorite you can’t convince me that’s a good thing for the Democrats or the odds.
jerseydevil20
Footballguy
I’m not an expert but the first thought that came to mind was Luke 1:39-44. Mary visits Elizabeth while Elizabeth is pregnant. When Mary greets Elizabeth the babe leaps in Elizabeth’s womb. The reference is to a baby. For what it’s worth.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I’ll admit, while trump is riling up crowds at Daytona the dems are floundering around, no one gaining momentum. MT I believe keeps saying that the odds will even out once a candidate is picked, but when might that happen? Trump shows these large crowds over and over while the dems get blasted for “socialism” and have a bunch of candidates that all have question marks. Seriously, the last time we had a dem president the world didn’t end, and the country rebounded from some tough times, and regardless of who ends up there it will be more of the same. Trump, Warren, sanders, Biden, bill weld, the country will keep moving along. Doesn’t really matter imo. But right now if you asked the general public two questions you’d get these answers:
Whats the first word that comes to mind when I say Bernie Sanders? (Socialism likely)
Are you ready for “socialist” policies? (Likely pretty uneasy about “socialism.”)
This is the unified voice of the Republican Party right here- dem=socialist, socialist=evil. And it’s effective. And you see trump at Daytona and everyone cheers, it’s hard to imagine the odds evening out with whatever time is left after the dems choose a candidate.
I don't think MT has been saying that, Tim has. The head to head lines should be exactly where they are today, if today there were less or only one candidate. Obviously if Amy (+200) drops out then Trump's overall odds decrease, if Pete (+125) drops out then Trump's overall odds increase. That's how the math works.
Warren = Sanders = Socialism = things like M4A and tuition reimbursement. None of those will get my vote and I hope a lot of other American's votes.
The General
Footballguy
Pete is the most inspirational I think of the moderate Dems. Amazing speaker, good story. Young, vet.
Klobacher about as boring as they get but if that’s what people want there you go.
Bernie to me is the biggest wild card. A lot of young people seem to want this.
If Trump were to quit Twitter for the summer do his rallies in key spots, the economy keeps strong stock market just holds steady it will be 50/50, down to a few states making all the difference.
It’ll happen by the end of the convention, but I think you’re confusing me with timscochet.
If you think that then you should take the field at +160 now while you can get it.
Shula-holic
Footballguy
Right. If anyone were confident of that they could buy their ticket today on the generic D at good + odds and hedge it out later.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Current on Bovada Trump -$170 but republican party -$180, which is interesting, and dem party +$135
They added a new bet though:
Which party will win the popular vote in the 2020 Presidential Election?
Democrats -$165 Republicans +$125
Most, if not all of us, know why these two bets are seemingly contradictory but aren't. IMO highlights a major problem with the POTUS election.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
What problem is that? Basing your entire POTUS election strategy around the popular vote?
Last edited by a moderator:
Shula-holic
Footballguy
The numbers make sense and we know as it stands today that a divergence in the electoral college results when compared to the popular vote results more likely favors Trump. Even though Bush beat Gore in 2000 in similar fashion, leading up to that election the odds of such a split actually more favored Gore to be the beneficiary of such a split. Over time those type chances can flip flop.
Today it's more likely because of how polarized the nation is and people tend to "live with their own". We live under a federalist system where the states are supposed to share power with the federal government and this system does give power to those individual states. It's the very same reason we have a separate House and Senate and why one gives states more power while the other is strictly based on population. I always find it interesting since Trump's election that the electoral college system that's spelled out in the Constitution comes under fire the most from the same folks who called Trump a threat to the Constitution.
Similar threads
