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30 minutes ago, timschochet said:

They think this is all being done to destroy Trump? I see. Do you believe this as well? 

Oh I don’t know about that, I was referring to Pritzker’s shelter in place order. There is a still a lot of confusion here as to who and what will be open. 

I do think It’s funny JB endorsed Biden on Monday and thought it was safe enough for us to vote 3 days ago.

 

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8 minutes ago, The General said:

We are all very hopeful that this drug helps.

The president saying that he's a big fan and seeing great things, saying it's available as soon as the FDA cuts through the redtape and then your expert comes up and says you’ve got to be careful when you say ‘fairly effective.’ It was never done in a clinical trial that compared it to anything. It was given to individuals and felt that maybe it works. 

Without Fauci there everyone would be racing to get this drug, where is it, who gets it, why don't we have more, on and on. It causes confusion and distraction.

Trump should let his experts speak on medical issues he needs to be very careful in how he talks about issues that he is out of his depth. He has Fauci right there let him talk to us. He is knowledgable and skilled in talking to the media let the guy do his job.

 

 

"racing out to get this drug"

Ok, not that dangerous, you have to have a prescription.

Anything else can you dream up that is "dangerous"?

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1 minute ago, tonydead said:

"racing out to get this drug"

Ok, not that dangerous, you have to have a prescription.

Anything else can you dream up that is "dangerous"?

People are going nuts for TP,  lining up for hours to buy crap at Costco. I'm sure they wouldn't lose their mind if they think there is some miracle drug out there.

People definitely wouldn't think up any type conspiracy theories on this.

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15 minutes ago, The General said:

We are all very hopeful that this drug helps.

The president saying that he's a big fan and seeing great things, saying it's available as soon as the FDA cuts through the redtape and then your expert comes up and says you’ve got to be careful when you say ‘fairly effective.’ It was never done in a clinical trial that compared it to anything. It was given to individuals and felt that maybe it works. 

Without Fauci there everyone would be racing to get this drug, where is it, who gets it, why don't we have more, on and on. It causes confusion and distraction.

Trump should let his experts speak on medical issues he needs to be very careful in how he talks about issues that he is out of his depth. He has Fauci right there let him talk to us. He is knowledgable and skilled in talking to the media let the guy do his job.

 

 

Anecdotal, but doctors are already calling in prescriptions for this for their families that don't even have Covid yet.  Fun society we have here.

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1 hour ago, tonydead said:

I'll write my congressman and let him know KPD on FBGs thinks he knows better than the experts in Washington.

 

17 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Hot take!  But Trump!

Take this crap to the safe space threads.

Hey buddy, I just added to your crap pile.  I can't help it that you #### in your own thread.   How can we know if my opinion differs from experts that Trump silences?  Maybe it doesn't. 

Look at Italy.  Just because Trump doesn't want to rock the boat and enforce closures nationally yet doesn't mean it isn't coming.  And it would be better if he did it sooner rather than later.

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1 minute ago, The General said:

People are going nuts for TP,  lining up for hours to buy crap at Costco. I'm sure they wouldn't lose their mind if they think there is some miracle drug out there.

People definitely wouldn't think up any type conspiracy theories on this.

A couple things here General:

1- You can't hoard prescription drugs like you can TP.  You need a prescription that limits you.

2- Nobody said there is a miracle drug out there.  They went out of their way to stay there is no miracle drug or cure. 

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1 minute ago, KPD said:

 

Hey buddy, I just added to your crap pile.  I can't help it that you #### in your own thread.   How can we know if my opinion differs from experts that Trump silences?  Maybe it doesn't. 

Look at Italy.  Just because Trump doesn't want to rock the boat and enforce closures nationally yet doesn't mean it isn't coming.  And it would be better if he did it sooner rather than later.

Dr. Fauci spoke for quite awhile this morning, perhaps you missed it?   It may indeed be coming, but, the experts currently aren't anticipating having to.  

Please try and control yourself in here.  Plenty of other threads to spread disinformation in.

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8 minutes ago, KPD said:

 

Hey buddy, I just added to your crap pile.  I can't help it that you #### in your own thread.   How can we know if my opinion differs from experts that Trump silences?  Maybe it doesn't. 

Look at Italy.  Just because Trump doesn't want to rock the boat and enforce closures nationally yet doesn't mean it isn't coming.  And it would be better if he did it sooner rather than later.

Unbelievable this stuff is allowed 

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3 minutes ago, tonydead said:

A couple things here General:

1- You can't hoard prescription drugs like you can TP.  You need a prescription that limits you.

2- Nobody said there is a miracle drug out there.  They went out of their way to stay there is no miracle drug or cure. 

They went out of their way to explain because people follow up with questions. That's role the media plays in this. 

Trump having a fit isn't productive. Poor leadership and shouldn't be celebrated.

We'll hope this drug does something.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Dr. Fauci spoke for quite awhile this morning, perhaps you missed it?   It may indeed be coming, but, the experts currently aren't anticipating having to.  

Please try and control yourself in here.  Plenty of other threads to spread disinformation in.

He was probably too busy spreading his #FreeFauci hashtag on twitter during the presser.

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1 minute ago, The General said:

They went out of their way to explain because people follow up with questions. That's role the media plays in this. 

Trump having a fit isn't productive. Poor leadership and shouldn't be celebrated.

We'll hope this drug does something.

 

 

No.  Fauci said that way before this exchange even happened.  That's what gave Peter the great idea to try and push his narrative.  Wait, you didn't even watch it, did you.

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People just making stuff up.  :lmao:  

Where do they get this stuff, twitter or something?

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7 minutes ago, tonydead said:

People just making stuff up.  :lmao:  

Where do they get this stuff, twitter or something?

You mean Trump's favorite playground?

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14 minutes ago, tonydead said:

No.  Fauci said that way before this exchange even happened.  That's what gave Peter the great idea to try and push his narrative.  Wait, you didn't even watch it, did you.

Fauci was answering questions cleaning up Trump's comments before and after the exchange with Peter. 

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6 hours ago, tonydead said:

Weird they'd be doing clinical trials if they didn't think it could help.  

The NDA’s that go unapproved could line the pavement of K Street from end to end. 

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On 3/19/2020 at 6:35 PM, tonydead said:

The biggest reason for the shortage was the first test developed by the CDC, back in January in SOP response, failed.  Trump probably said some things but I doubt that had any affect on the CDC's efforts. 

This is Robert Redfield, Trump's appointee to head the CDC.

Note this is the second Director CDC under Trump. The first Brenda Fitzgerald had to resign because she had investments in tobacco companies, which yaknow sorta conflicted with the CDC's mission.

Before Fitzgerald, Trump waited 7 months to even name a director after entering office, but he fired the prior director. So for 7 months the CDC was leaderless.

Anyway, here's Redfield (& Fitzgerald):

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Redfield's early engagement with the AIDS epidemic in the US in the 1980s and 90s was controversial. As an Army major at Walter Reed Medical Institute, he designed policies for controlling the disease within the US military that involved placing infected personnel in quarantine and investigating their pasts to identify and track possible sexual partners. Soldiers were routinely discharged and left to die of AIDS, humiliated and jobless, often abandoned by their families.

In the 1980s Redfield worked closely with W. Shepherd Smith, Jr. and his Christian organization, Americans for a Sound AIDS/HIV Policy, or ASAP. The group maintained that AIDS was "God's judgment" against homosexuals, spread in an America weakened by single-parent households and loss of family values.

Redfield wrote the introduction to a 1990 book, "Christians in the Age of AIDS," co-written by Smith, in which he denounced distribution of sterile needles to drug users and condoms to sexually active adults, and described anti-discrimination programs as the efforts of "false prophets."

In the early 1990's, ASAP and Redfield also backed H.R. 2788, a House bill sponsored by deeply conservative Rep. William Dannemeyer (R-California). It would have subjected people with HIV to testing, loss of professional licenses and would have effectively quarantined them. (The bill died in Congress.) In the 2000s, Redfield was a top advocate for the so-called "ABCs of AIDS" in Africa, pressing to prevent HIV infection through sexual abstinence, monogamy and the use of condoms only as a last resort.

In 1992, Redfield, then a colonel, was part of a Walter Reed team backing an AIDS vaccine called VaxSyn, manufactured by a Connecticut company, MicroGeneSys. Redfield claimed that a small clinical trial had shown VaxSyn to protect the immune systems of infected soldiers, limiting the worst outcomes of AIDS.

Because this was a clear exaggeration, the Army investigated Redfield, eventually concluding he had made an innocent mistake. Redfield continued to strongly support VaxSyn, pushing Congress to fund a $20 million clinical trial on HIV-positive men. But VaxSyn never worked, and no fine-tuning in its biochemistry could have made a difference.

Independent scientists showed that the MicroGeneSys compound targeted a part of the HIV virus that mutates so frequently that infected individuals' bodies are filled with multiple forms, most of which VaxSyn could not affect.

The White House has had a hard time choosing, vetting and retaining top appointees. After 16 months in office the President has fired or accepted the resignations of 23 top officials, including Redfield's predecessors, Dr. Thomas Frieden and Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald. 

Six months later, Dr. Fitzgerald, then state health commissioner in Georgia, was appointed to lead the agency that protects Americans from epidemics, water contamination, cancer-causing compounds and hundreds of other health threats, at a salary of $197,000. Questions were immediately raised about her relationship with the Coca-Cola Corporation and their sponsorship, at her behest, of a Georgia anti-obesity campaign.

In September Fitzgerald made decisions in CDC's Atlanta headquarters involving $28.6 million worth of private contracts for electronic data-keeping relevant to opioid prescriptions. One of the companies receiving those grants was Greenway Health, in which Fitzgerald and her husband held stock worth $300,000. Senate queries led to a larger investigation and the discovery that she continued in December to hold stocks in pharmaceutical and medical management companies that posed clear conflict violations.

And on Jan. 30 she submitted her resignation, following a Politico disclosure that the Fitzgeralds owned tens of thousands of dollars' worth of tobacco stocks, some of which had been purchased after her CDC appointment.

- So it's interesting that you place blame on the CDC when maybe look who has been placing the leadership over it in such incompetent, corrupt hands.

Btw, there's nothing wrong with Messonnier - head of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases - but she clearly doesn't make decisions on requisitions, she's a medical expert, and yet she is never on the dais with Trump and she is not part of the official leadership team. Weird.

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2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

So it's interesting that you place blame on the CDC when maybe look who has been placing the leadership over it in such incompetent, corrupt hands.

He is repeatedly corrupting key government positions.

Today...

The Trump administration has hired Anna Seidman, formerly a longtime lawyer at the trophy hunting advocacy group Safari Club International, to lead the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s international affairs program.

:thumbdown:

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19 minutes ago, BigSteelThrill said:

He is repeatedly corrupting key government positions.

Today...

The Trump administration has hired Anna Seidman, formerly a longtime lawyer at the trophy hunting advocacy group Safari Club International, to lead the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s international affairs program.

:thumbdown:

you realize that people hunt responsibly right?

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13 minutes ago, boots11234 said:

you realize that people hunt responsibly right?

From what I’ve read, Trump’s sons do not. 

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28 minutes ago, boots11234 said:

you realize that people hunt responsibly right?

She was not mentioned as a hunter at all in my post.  Instead as a lawyer/profiteer who advocates for getting access to kill animals.

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12 minutes ago, BigSteelThrill said:

She was not mentioned as a hunter at all in my post.  Instead as a lawyer/profiteer who advocates for getting access to kill animals.

Is she single?  If so you got her number?  Sounds like my type of gal.  Giraffe with catchup.  YUMMY!!

 

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"His jest will savor but of shallow wit."

       Shakespeare~King Henry V

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13 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This is Robert Redfield, Trump's appointee to head the CDC.

Note this is the second Director CDC under Trump. The first Brenda Fitzgerald had to resign because she had investments in tobacco companies, which yaknow sorta conflicted with the CDC's mission.

Before Fitzgerald, Trump waited 7 months to even name a director after entering office, but he fired the prior director. So for 7 months the CDC was leaderless.

Anyway, here's Redfield (& Fitzgerald):

- So it's interesting that you place blame on the CDC when maybe look who has been placing the leadership over it in such incompetent, corrupt hands.

Btw, there's nothing wrong with Messonnier - head of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases - but she clearly doesn't make decisions on requisitions, she's a medical expert, and yet she is never on the dais with Trump and she is not part of the official leadership team. Weird.

Wow. Looks like you had a fun Friday night. 

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11 hours ago, timschochet said:

From what I’ve read, Trump’s sons do not. 

Did you see that Inslee is NOT shuttering Washington or even King County yesterday?  He had some ground breaking ideas how to enforce social distancing tho. Told parents to keep kids from hanging out together by threatening to take their inheritance away. Yes ladies and gentlemen, that is how the leftist elite thinks the world works, getting your children to do something responsible by threatening to take away their fortunes.

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12 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Wow. Looks like you had a fun Friday night. 

Apocalypse Friday, from now on til...

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Moronic questions. Reporters asking about Trumps businesses. 

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11 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Moronic questions. Reporters asking about Trumps businesses. 

Media: “OMG President Trump says his hotels are doing bad in this environment, how would he ever know!?”  

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They were hoping for: 'my hotels are open and we are doing fantastic business.'

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The (Trump/Pompeo/Barr) Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the coronavirus spreads through the United States.

 

That would be a suspension of all your American rights.  :missing:

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2 minutes ago, BigSteelThrill said:

The (Trump/Pompeo) Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the coronavirus spreads through the United States.

 

That would be a suspension of all your American rights.  :missing:

Not a fan of this at all.

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15 hours ago, BigSteelThrill said:

The (Trump/Pompeo/Barr) Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the coronavirus spreads through the United States.

 

That would be a suspension of all your American rights.  :missing:

Can finally “Lock her up.”

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Trump approval at 60% for how he's handling the virus!   BAM!

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On 3/21/2020 at 12:27 AM, John Blutarsky said:

They can’t help themselves 

Good description of this administration.

No good idea is left standing.

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3 minutes ago, adonis said:

Good description of this administration.

No good idea is left standing.

Relax 

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1 hour ago, John Blutarsky said:

Relax 

Hard to do with Nero fiddling while Rome burns.

I have family members in the high risk category, many people I love.  Friends too.  This isn't a game.  I know I will lose people I love and care about in the coming months due to the coronavirus.  I'd love for our leadership to take this seriously and protect the people.

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2 hours ago, boots11234 said:

Trump approval at 60% for how he's handling the virus!   BAM!

It’s Gallup so it’s probably 65% actually. Also just tied for highest approval rating of his Presidency-

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President Trump’s job approval rating has jumped by 5 points in the latest Gallup survey, matching the high point of his presidency, as a majority of voters say they have a positive view of how the president has handled the coronavirus pandemic.

The new poll finds Trump’s job approval rating at 49 percent, up from 44 percent in the same survey earlier this month. The 49 percent job approval rating is the high mark for Trump since he came into office. He first hit that mark in late January, shortly before he was acquitted by the Senate in his impeachment trial.

It appears that Trump’s handling of the coronavirus response is behind the approval rating bump. Sixty percent of voters overall said they approve of the job Trump is doing to address the epidemic, including 94 percent of Republicans, 60 percent of independents and 27 percent of Democrats.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489285-gallup-trump-job-approval-rating-matches-all-time-high

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11 hours ago, boots11234 said:

Trump approval at 60% for how he's handling the virus!   BAM!

Do you realize how many heads are going to explode from this? The echo chamber has pinned the deadly virus in him , the real world sees through it!?!?!?🤯

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1 minute ago, GoBirds said:

Do you realize how many heads are going to explode from this? The echo chamber has pinned the deadly virus in him , the real world sees through it!?!?!?🤯

Is everyone still coming here to blame Trump for everything?   

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35 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Is everyone still coming here to blame Trump for everything?   

That’s why they get so upset when it’s called a Chinese Virus.  The left will eventually try to call it the Trump Virus.  

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1 hour ago, GoBirds said:

Do you realize how many heads are going to explode from this? The echo chamber has pinned the deadly virus in him , the real world sees through it!?!?!?🤯

It is what it is. Personally it never surprises me or disappoints me when the majority of the public disagrees with me about something. A common occurrence. 

That being said, I don’t think they’re paying enough attention. President Trump has made terrible decisions with regard to this crisis, and an unnecessary number of people are going to die as a result. It’s still not too late to save some of them; I hope that Trump does his best to earn those approval numbers. 

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1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said:

That’s why they get so upset when it’s called a Chinese Virus.  The left will eventually try to call it the Trump Virus.  

Trump isn't calling a Chinese Virus any longer, apparently finally recognizing the racial overtones and how offensive it is to many Asian Americans. 

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Saw a political commercial today where they basically blamed the virus on Trump. That is really going to backfire on the Dems. Most of us have more than a half a brain and even the ones with half a brain ( like me) will see through this idiotic commercial.

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1 hour ago, rustycolts said:

Saw a political commercial today where they basically blamed the virus on Trump. That is really going to backfire on the Dems. Most of us have more than a half a brain and even the ones with half a brain ( like me) will see through this idiotic commercial.

This was exactly a month ago.

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

Trump isn't calling a Chinese Virus any longer, apparently finally recognizing the racial overtones and how offensive it is to many Asian Americans. 

Like everything I hope you are wrong. It started in China, it’s fair to point out as such.   People are way to easily offended. Calling it corona virus, covid19 or China virus are all fair IMO

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Just now, John Blutarsky said:

And it has nothing to do with the blame being pushed at Trump.

It reflects Trump’s complete ignorance or misrepresentation of the situation at the time. That’s what it demonstrates.

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7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It reflects Trump’s complete ignorance or misrepresentation of the situation at the time. That’s what it demonstrates.

60% approval tells me You seem to be in the minority on this brah. Trump 2020!!

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