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2 hours ago, timschochet said:

FiveThirtyEight with several polls on how terrible Trump is faring with the American public: 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-are-largely-unimpressed-with-trumps-handling-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

It’s no wonder he’s decided to stop the briefings. They’ve been a disaster. 

I’m amazed he is still polling in the 40’s on covid.   He has absolutely no idea what he is doing, has embarrassed himself worse than he arguably did in Helsinki, and basically just got 86’ed from the briefings. 

It is a total clown show.    

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Trump’s fine.  Once his opponent has to emerge from his basement and address even more credible sexual assault charges, his Ukraine and China connections, and declining faculties Biden’s not getting any support

 

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1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said:

Trump’s fine.  Once his opponent has to emerge from his basement and address even more credible sexual assault charges, his Ukraine and China connections, and declining faculties Biden’s not getting any support

 

You can tell by the desperation of the whiners to troll through here they know they are in a bad spot. Biden is an awful choice. 

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1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said:

Trump’s fine.  Once his opponent has to emerge from his basement and address even more credible sexual assault charges, his Ukraine and China connections, and declining faculties Biden’s not getting any support

 

Trump has been accused of sexual assault 20+ times, he has very sketchy connections with Russia which has resulted in multiple people who he worked very closely with getting arrested over it and his mental health, which has been bad since he got elected, looks to be declining even more.

In a normal election with 2 competent candidates you would be correct. However, both candidates are incompetent so some of their weaknesses wash each other out. I know some are just trolling, but it honestly amazes me how many Trump supporters truly think Trump is a great candidate and light years ahead of Biden when the same stuff they criticize Biden for, Trump is just as guilty of.

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10 minutes ago, Bucsfan5493 said:

Trump has been accused of sexual assault 20+ times, he has very sketchy connections with Russia which has resulted in multiple people who he worked very closely with getting arrested over it and his mental health, which has been bad since he got elected, looks to be declining even more.

In a normal election with 2 competent candidates you would be correct. However, both candidates are incompetent so some of their weaknesses wash each other out. I know some are just trolling, but it honestly amazes me how many Trump supporters truly think Trump is a great candidate and light years ahead of Biden when the same stuff they criticize Biden for, Trump is just as guilty of.

Does it bother you being a hypocrite who acts outraged over Trump yet you will vote for Biden who represents the same issues just older and more out of touch?

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Just now, GoBirds said:

Does it bother you being a hypocrite who acts outraged over Trump yet you will vote for Biden who represents the same issues just older and more out of touch?

Nope, because I don’t enthusiastically support Biden and pretend like he’s a great candidate. It’s clear as day that he’s not fit to be a good President anymore and he has many issues, most notably his mental decline. I totally get why people wouldn’t want or be excited to vote for Biden. What I don’t get is Trump supporters who have blindly defended the guy for over the past 3 years and think anyone who doesn’t like Trump is just a crazy liberal.

Unfortunately, the 2 party system is a massive failure and has left us with 2 bad options to choose from. So, the options are to either sit out the election like I did in 2016 or vote for the best of the worst which I’ll be doing in 2020.

 

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Dr Birx shutting down Chuck Todd’s garbage leading questions, what a joke that guy is. 

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1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said:

Trump’s fine.  Once his opponent has to emerge from his basement and address even more credible sexual assault charges, his Ukraine and China connections, and declining faculties Biden’s not getting any support

Clearly!

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10 hours ago, timschochet said:

FiveThirtyEight with several polls on how terrible Trump is faring with the American public: 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-are-largely-unimpressed-with-trumps-handling-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

It’s no wonder he’s decided to stop the briefings. They’ve been a disaster. 

 

10 hours ago, timschochet said:

Republicans are panicking at Trump’s poll numbers: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/24/trump-poll-2020-205722

They fear he’s going to lose them the Senate as well. His sheer incompetence, clear for the public to see, is bringing the entire GOP down. 

Still seeing President Trump as a favorite in the betting markets. :coffee:

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To accommodate Trump’s sudden decision to speak at West Point, cadets will be called back, tested off campus, then isolated for 14 days in rooms with masks. They’ll eat in segregated groups. No decision on whether family members may attend.

 

 

WASHINGTON — For President Trump, who adores the pomp and precision of military ceremonies, this was the year he would finally get one of the special perks of being president — delivering the commencement address at West Point, the only service academy where he has not spoken.

But the graduation was postponed because of the coronavirus, the cadets were sent home and officials at the school were not sure when it would be held or even whether it was a good idea to hold it.

The Naval Academy, for its part, decided it was too risky to recall its nearly 1,000 graduating midshipmen to Annapolis, Md., for a commencement. Those graduates will have a virtual event. But the Air Force Academy, in contrast to the other schools, sent home its underclassmen, locked down its seniors on campus, moved up graduation, mandated social distancing — and went ahead with plans for Vice President Mike Pence to be its speaker.

And so last Friday, the day before Mr. Pence was to speak at the Air Force ceremony in Colorado, Mr. Trump, never one to be upstaged, abruptly announced that he would, in fact, be speaking at West Point.

That was news to everyone, including officials at West Point, according to three people involved with or briefed on the event. The academy had been looking at the option of a delayed presidential commencement in June, but had yet to complete any plans. With Mr. Trump’s pre-emptive statement, they are now summoning 1,000 cadets scattered across the country to return to campus in New York, the state that is the center of the outbreak.

“He’s the commander in chief, that’s his call,” said Sue Fulton, a West Point graduate and former chairwoman of the academy’s Board of Visitors. “Cadets are certainly excited about the opportunity to have something like the classic graduation, standing together, flinging their hats in the air.

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“But everyone is leery about bringing 1,000 cadets into the New York metropolitan area for a ceremony,” she added. “It’s definitely a risk.”

Mr. Trump, like some of his predecessors, has used the annual commencement addresses at the country’s military academies to promote his foreign policy successes and project strength, something he needs to do in the middle of a pandemic that has kept him in the White House in the middle of an election year.

There will never be a better setting for the president to talk up the size and abilities of the United States military, and point to the uniformed ranks in front of him as examples of the patriotic Americans he has enlisted to fight the coronavirus and carry out his campaign promise from 2016 of winning “so much you’re going to get tired of winning.”

Mr. Trump, who was so impressed by the Bastille Day parade he saw in Paris that he planned something similar in Washington until the Pentagon estimated its cost, basks in the glow of the spit-and-polish commencement ceremonies at the military academies.

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He spoke at Annapolis in 2018, and when he addressed the Air Force Academy graduation last year, the president stayed and shook hands with all 1,000 cadets. But it is West Point that holds special significance to Mr. Trump, aides said. A graduate of the New York Military Academy, he looks upon the West Point graduates serving in his administration with the same admiration he has for anyone with Ivy League credentials.

It had been a longstanding plan that the president would deliver the commencement speech there in late May, White House officials said, adding that after the event was postponed, they were still in talks with the academy about finding a new date.

White House officials said Mr. Trump left it up to the school to decide whether it was safe to hold a graduation ceremony in June, and pointed out that he could always reassess his decision closer to the date if the coronavirus crisis made it impossible for him to attend.

But his appearance at West Point, while not in any way unusual or unexpected, had yet to be announced.

Indeed, after all the West Point cadets were sent home for spring break in March, Lt. Gen. Darryl A. Williams, the West Point superintendent, ordered a working group there to draw up options — much like a battle campaign — for what to do about graduation, summer training and initiation day for incoming cadets.

One option included a delayed presidential commencement speech in mid-June, but nothing had been decided, academy officials said.

That is, nothing had been decided until last Friday, April 17, when, at a news conference, Mr. Trump was asked about Mr. Pence’s coming trip to the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs.

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Air Force Academy cadets sitting eight feet apart at their commencement ceremony last weekend in Colorado Springs.Credit...Michael Ciaglo/Getty Images

Mr. Trump told reporters that he would be speaking at the West Point graduation in the near future, noting that he did not like the look of a socially distanced graduation and that he hoped the “look” of the ceremony would be “nice and tight.” He did not announce a date for the event.

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West Point officials said this week that they were taken aback by the impromptu announcement. Of the many graduation options under review, Mr. Trump had pre-empted their planning.

A White House official said that the administration had been in discussions with West Point about a new date for the graduation, and that the academy had offered June 13 as a possibility.

On the morning of April 18, White House officials said, Mr. Trump had a discussion with the Defense Department, in which he confirmed that he would speak at West Point on June 13.

At a news conference later that day, Mr. Trump publicly announced the date for the first time. “I’m going to West Point. I think they’re changing the date to June 13th because of what’s going on in New York,” he said. “They’re moving into June 13th. West Point.”

In a statement, a White House official said that “the president had spoken with D.O.D. and his remarks on that Saturday were not a surprise to the academy.”

By Wednesday, the academy had caught up to the president’s announcement. “We are honored to host the commander in chief as we celebrate the many accomplishments of our graduating class,” General Williams said in a statement.

West Point officials say the size and scope of the ceremony will be determined “by safety considerations for cadets and the entire West Point community.” Academy officials say they have not yet decided whether parents or other visitors will be allowed to attend.

General Williams said in a telephone interview that returning seniors would be tested off-campus for the coronavirus. Those who test negative will then be sent to the school, where they will be monitored for 14 days before graduation. While the campus has enough dormitory rooms for the 1,000 seniors, General Williams said that he was still deciding whether seniors would share bedrooms on their return.

 

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12 hours ago, The General said:

I guess we have a difference of opinion on what is trolling.

Why would my posting and responding in here be trolling?

It's pretty clear you both know and have exactly the same definition of trolling. Most all of us do -Trolling is posts where it appears the primary intent is to get a reaction out of the "other" side. It's the smug slaps where the little :lmao: or  :lol: at the "other" side.

We would all be lots better off if there was WAY less of this. Please help. And please save the "But it's not ME...it's the OTHER guy" whining. That's even more lame.

Thanks.

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1 hour ago, Widbil83 said:

 

Still seeing President Trump as a favorite in the betting markets. :coffee:

Total side note I know, but can you actually bet on the election legally somewhere?

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It’s funny how there are actually people that equate alleged transgressions by Trump to Biden. 

Until 3 years ago, Trump was NEVER in public service.  Until 3 years ago, Biden was ALWAYS in public service.  While working for taxpayers and voters Biden, made himself and his family a fortune. Biden has also allegedly used his public position of influence to assault, objectify, and creep out women.  

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7 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Until 3 years ago, Trump was NEVER in public service.

Quite the brag here. This reminds me of the Breitbart piece about OBL plotting against America while Trump was doing reality tv promos on CNN. Indeed.

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14 minutes ago, KiddLattimer said:

Total side note I know, but can you actually bet on the election legally somewhere?

Depends on your state. I bet on Mayor Pete :wub: in Iowa back in early January at 7:1 through a casino. I bought my 2016 Trump ticket at Bally’s in Vegas. Bovada and a few other sites offshore me and a lot of gambling guys used a lot as well (not legal though).

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3 hours ago, knowledge dropper said:

Trump’s fine.  Once his opponent has to emerge from his basement and address even more credible sexual assault charges, his Ukraine and China connections, and declining faculties Biden’s not getting any support

They need to keep Biden locked in his basement. CNN is now scrubbing their own Larry King interview from when Biden’s victims mother called in. The media won’t ask him a single question about it either. It’s a bad time to be a Biden supporter.

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I love it.  Trump backing down from the podium is him admitting he's making BIdens case for him. Biden's best move right now it just to sit back and let Trump continue to spout off about internal UV light and disinfectant chasers.  

I give Trump less than a week before he HAS to get in front of the cameras and continue to give Biden commercials material. 

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16 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Depends on your state. I bet on Mayor Pete :wub: in Iowa back in early January at 7:1 through a casino. I bought my 2016 Trump ticket at Bally’s in Vegas. Bovada and a few other sites offshore me and a lot of gambling guys used a lot as well (not legal though).

I'm in New York so I wouldn't bet (pun point!) on it being legal :kicksrock:

I'd love to put some money on these female VP candidates and play the odds Joe doesn't become the nominee.

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On 2/17/2020 at 1:04 PM, tonydead said:

Republican's to win the presidency is -180 and Trump specifically at -170. 

Currently Bovada has this as Trump at -120, Biden at +115.

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20 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Currently Bovada has this as Trump at -120, Biden at +115.

A lot of that is public perception based on incumbency. And it’s tightened considerably already. By the fall Biden should be the clear favorite. 

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1 minute ago, timschochet said:

A lot of that is public perception based on incumbency. And it’s tightened considerably already. By the fall Biden should be the clear favorite. 

I don’t know how to translate the +|- odds but I get the sense Trump is getting the 3 point HFA bump right now and that’s it.

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10 minutes ago, timschochet said:

A lot of that is public perception based on incumbency. And it’s tightened considerably already. By the fall Biden should be the clear favorite. 

Frankly, I don't know much about the odds, but as long as Trump loses in November, then we can move forward as a nation.

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26 minutes ago, John Blutarsky said:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nancy-pelosi-owes-america-an-apology-for-coronavirus-relief-delays-mccarthy-says

Nancy Pelosi 'owes America an apology' for coronavirus relief delays, McCarthy says

Speaking of disasters, check out Pelosi on CNN today after all the railing against Trump’s China ban.
 

.@SpeakerPelosi says @realDonaldTrump should have shut the door on American citizens in China when he issued the travel ban

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1254402084150996999?s=21

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Just now, John Blutarsky said:

Keep on trying. 

I plan on it. I’d like you to vote for Joe Biden this November. It’s in your best interest to do so. 

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10 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I plan on it. I’d like you to vote for Joe Biden this November. It’s in your best interest to do so. 

I’d like you to stop telling people how to think. It’s in your best interest to do so.

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6 hours ago, GoBirds said:

Dr Birx shutting down Chuck Todd’s garbage leading questions, what a joke that guy is. 

#TeamScarf

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20 minutes ago, John Blutarsky said:

I’d like you to stop telling people how to think. It’s in your best interest to do so.

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/thesaurus-category/american/people-who-tell-people-what-to-do

 

People who tell people what to do - THESAURUS

SYNONYMS

autocrat

 NOUN

someone who tells other people what to do without caring what they think

dictator

 NOUN

someone who tells people what to do and refuses to listen to their opinions



Reminds me of our president also.  hmmmmmmmmmm.



 

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34 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I plan on it. I’d like you to vote for Joe Biden this November. It’s in your best interest to do so. 

Keep up the good work Tim. I've been told not to respond to the usual suspects.

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Pretty curious to see how the daily press briefings take shape moving forward.

No questions taken by Donald on Friday, first time in 30 straight days I think.

No presser yesterday, none scheduled today.

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1 hour ago, John Blutarsky said:

I’d like you to stop telling people how to think. It’s in your best interest to do so.

I wasn’t telling you how to think. I was telling you how to vote. 

In any case I’m not trying to force anything on you. I am trying to reason with you, make a compelling argument. 

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18 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I wasn’t telling you how to think. I was telling you how to vote. 

In any case I’m not trying to force anything on you. I am trying to reason with you, make a compelling argument. 

Just stop Tim. You’re out of control. 

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21 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I wasn’t telling you how to think. I was telling you how to vote. 

 

You’re wrong 99% of the time here. I’m a smart man. How dare you think you have an ego to tell me how to vote. Take it elsewhere Tim. 

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1 hour ago, The General said:

Pretty curious to see how the daily press briefings take shape moving forward.

No questions taken by Donald on Friday, first time in 30 straight days I think.

No presser yesterday, none scheduled today.

I would expect Trump approval ratings to rise.  The less he says, the better he will do.

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3 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Yuge-

Maria Bartiromo@MariaBartiromo

Breaking News: sources tell me @GenFlynn will be completely exonerated this week.  It was a total fraud.  A Set up.  More tomorrow @MorningsMaria @FoxBusiness @FoxNews @SundayFutures

https://twitter.com/mariabartiromo/status/1254518803888734217?s=21

FYI - these documents have already been presented to Judge Sullivan and he previously denied Powell’s motions to dismiss the conviction. So have at it.

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1 hour ago, Sinn Fein said:

I would expect Trump approval ratings to rise.  The less he says, the better he will do.

"Sir, you have your supporters going to emergency rooms for drinking bleach. Maybe let's take a break."

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4 minutes ago, Apple Jack said:

"Sir, you have your supporters going to emergency rooms for drinking bleach. Maybe let's take a break."

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11 minutes ago, John Blutarsky said:

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Trump did suggest injecting disinfectant. Granted, it's slightly different than simply drinking it, but the result is the same.

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13 minutes ago, Kal El said:

Trump did suggest injecting disinfectant. Granted, it's slightly different than simply drinking it, but the result is the same.

No he didn’t. Keep trying 

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1 minute ago, John Blutarsky said:

No he didn’t. Keep trying 

They are so desperate, it’s quite the false reality they create for themselves. 

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1 minute ago, GoBirds said:

They are so desperate, it’s quite the false reality they create for themselves. 

It’s beyond pathetic. And the usual trolls come to this thread to post crap. 

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Just now, John Blutarsky said:

It’s beyond pathetic. And the usual trolls come to this thread to post crap. 

It will come back to bite them, same as it did last election. But their meltdown this time will be so epic that the safe space is finally shutdown. 

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1 minute ago, Kal El said:

LIKE. Is the key word here. I too want something that kills LIKE a disinfectant. Do people not understand English anymore?  It is clear what he is saying. Or am I missing something?

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