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it's hard to buy in to having sufficing generational icons & archetypes (i know where i'm a droogie & where i'm a munchkin and i'm not happy with either) but, like it or not, Fight Club has us reading ally'all's mail (male?).

 
it's hard to buy in to having sufficing generational icons & archetypes (i know where i'm a droogie & where i'm a munchkin and i'm not happy with either) but, like it or not, Fight Club has us reading ally'all's mail (male?).
*Reported to Postal Inspector*

If I understand correctly, you are saying that it is a window into the psyche (kinda). Now, is this in regard to the 2000 psyche, or do you see it as a defining/on-going window? As if no resolution has been found.

 
*Reported to Postal Inspector*

If I understand correctly, you are saying that it is a window into the psyche (kinda). Now, is this in regard to the 2000 psyche, or do you see it as a defining/on-going window? As if no resolution has been found.
FC defines the gestalt/psychic construct of the Gen Y male, more or less, better than any of its art of which i'm aware and the cutest thing about it is that those who love it most deny its effect on them most vociferously, methinksthoudostprotest2muchwise.

 
Need to add: IRT myself, I see the most influence in my aversion to marketing/commercialism/consumerism and the like. I think I have mentioned it before, but I admit to irrational distaste of things in the sphere. After some more thought, I can prolly come up with other example.

 
FC defines the gestalt/psychic construct of the Gen Y male, more or less, better than any of its art of which i'm aware and the cutest thing about it is that those who love it most deny its effect on them most vociferously, methinksthoudostprotest2muchwise.
Having a hard time understanding because I don't know what the bold pronoun is referring to. What's effect? The movie? Culture writ large?

 
Having a hard time understanding because I don't know what the bold pronoun is referring to. What's effect? The movie? Culture writ large?
oy. i'd be more excited for the challenge except i'm pretty sure i've done it at least twice before. i'll try to be fresh.

By & large, the Gen X male is defined by its latchkeyness, the resulting abandonment & attachment issues and being raised on media designed specifically to keep them engaged after school. Pretty clear. Gen Y was a lot harder for me to nail down (as an elder citizen, by this time). Nothing that was theirs (Gen X had already turned the inside jokes of the Boomer gen into the reigning mythology), no place to plug in the fast-twitchedness of their urge range or frustrations. Because i thought FC was more of the pitiable "taking rasslin' seriously" gestalt by which i damned them, i went a long time without watching it. But when i did - boyohboyohboy. The thing about the world becoming too big to fail is that Gen Y saw no part for themselves in making or breaking their world. FC gave them a place to blow it up in their minds, so their peace-of-mind AND their angst became based as much in it as mine is in Wizard of Oz. Therefore, it is the Gen Y mythology. If i watched it again, i could probably tell you more, but i aint gonna. ####burger -

 
oy. i'd be more excited for the challenge except i'm pretty sure i've done it at least twice before. i'll try to be fresh.

By & large, the Gen X male is defined by its latchkeyness, the resulting abandonment & attachment issues and being raised on media designed specifically to keep them engaged after school. Pretty clear. Gen Y was a lot harder for me to nail down (as an elder citizen, by this time). Nothing that was theirs (Gen X had already turned the inside jokes of the Boomer gen into the reigning mythology), no place to plug in the fast-twitchedness of their urge range or frustrations. Because i thought FC was more of the pitiable "taking rasslin' seriously" gestalt by which i damned them, i went a long time without watching it. But when i did - boyohboyohboy. The thing about the world becoming too big to fail is that Gen Y saw no part for themselves in making or breaking their world. FC gave them a place to blow it up in their minds, so their peace-of-mind AND their angst became based as much in it as mine is in Wizard of Oz. Therefore, it is the Gen Y mythology. If i watched it again, i could probably tell you more, but i aint gonna. ####burger -
Not to be contentious, but I think I got what you were trying to say; it was your syntax that finally bit me, and I can usually get past that and grok to what you're saying for the most part. 

But the exposition does give more clarity, I will say. Interesting theory.

 
####burger -
LOL

oy. i'd be more excited for the challenge except i'm pretty sure i've done it at least twice before. i'll try to be fresh.

By & large, the Gen X male is defined by its latchkeyness, the resulting abandonment & attachment issues and being raised on media designed specifically to keep them engaged after school. Pretty clear. Gen Y was a lot harder for me to nail down (as an elder citizen, by this time). Nothing that was theirs (Gen X had already turned the inside jokes of the Boomer gen into the reigning mythology), no place to plug in the fast-twitchedness of their urge range or frustrations. Because i thought FC was more of the pitiable "taking rasslin' seriously" gestalt by which i damned them, i went a long time without watching it. But when i did - boyohboyohboy. The thing about the world becoming too big to fail is that Gen Y saw no part for themselves in making or breaking their world. FC gave them a place to blow it up in their minds, so their peace-of-mind AND their angst became based as much in it as mine is in Wizard of Oz. Therefore, it is the Gen Y mythology. If i watched it again, i could probably tell you more, but i aint gonna.
This is helpful, as I have not read any of your previous thoughts on FC.

I am honestly not sure where I fall irt X & Y. Is this a "date/age" thing or is it relative to things like location and maturity ... etc.

 
The thing about the world becoming too big to fail is that Gen Y saw no part for themselves in making or breaking their world. FC gave them a place to blow it up in their minds, so their peace-of-mind AND their angst became based as much in it as mine is in Wizard of Oz.
I thought of a good example from my own experience that fits this part very well.

In that job I mentioned earlier, I was tasked to fix a legal problem that occurred before I had the position. And, coincidentally, the big #### really hit the fan between '99 & '01 ... right in the FC time-zone.

And, when it hit, I realized/felt that not only did I have no part in the "breaking", I also was not really fixing it ... or making the new version. Rather, I was juggling words and telling lies to fit the demands of "superiors". Things got ugly at that point - for all involved. 

I saw FC. And, I blew it all up in my mind.

However, I don't recall watching it again on purpose. I have watched bits and pieces when I had cable (cut that in '08) ... and it would pop up. 

Heh. I'm looking more and more forward to watching again now.

 
Why do you guys keep talking about something you're not supposed to talk about?

Anyway, I'm going to weigh in as well...

I was 35 and over my head with a young family: 2 kids under 3 and #3 on the way when FC came out, and as such was too broke to have the same materialistic longing as the narrator, was too rooted in trying to create a 'normal' life to buy into the rebelliousness of Project Mayhem, but neither was I too removed from their days that I couldn't empathize with their angst, so I wasn't dismissive either.  I think what may 'date' the movie is that the generation in the story didn't have any other big, traumatic event/war to go through, so there was no "built-in" outlet for their age-old aggressive instincts.  I think part of the traditional 'glamour' of war for young men is the idea of doing violent, world-changing things that comes crashing to earth when they realize what they were pursuing was a lie. I think ultimately Tyler and Project Mayhem filled that void, and that's why it resonated with the 20-30 somethings when it came out, but will resonate to future generations that grow up without a cause bigger than themselves they can collectively legitimately cause violence over.  Who knows, maybe that's why we're seeing more mass shootings and violence domestically. Humanity, men in particular, are still savage at heart but have fewer sanctioned ways to let that savagery loose.

 
Ilov80s said:
Was a hell of a lineup today. Wednesday’s this month on TCM have been peak cinema.
I am awful about remembering to check TCM. As I said above, I don't have cable; so I have to use my parents Spectrum online account for remote viewing. I don't think they even know such a thing exists.

Anyways, I watched The Trial and Chimes at Midnight a few months ago (wikkid recs) and have not logged in since. I need to bookmark the schedule page and keep an eye open.

 
Ilov80s said:
Was a hell of a lineup today. Wednesday’s this month on TCM have been peak cinema.
I caught about half of that documentary about great cinematographers.  I need to watch the rest before it goes off.

 
Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings.

Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
Forgot this. Club Cornhole in Vegas?

 
Man of Constant Sorrow said:
Good Fight Club discussion here.

I'm not up to date on the "generation" aspect. I was born '68. I think I saw it in '00 - when I was 32 or so. At the time, I was 8 years into a job that had become a major psychological burden on me. I hated it, but was addicted to the adrenaline it produced & the $ was good. Very conflicted. It also was a family biz, so I felt compelled to "see things through". (Note: Finally left job in 2009 and have been semi-retired since - things are much better now.)

When I saw the Narrator and his lack of fulfillment, I got it. Further, I really empathized with the "anti-consumerism". I spent so much time working, that I never spent the $. The house I lived in (and still do) was kinda like the dilapidated pile that Durden squatted in. (Note: House is fixed up now.) The point being, I was fed up with what was being fed to dudes my age, irt to life goals, work fulfillment, etc., & I got a kick out of the FU aspects.

Having said that, I never "bought into" the Durden philosophy; rather, I viewed it as a satire/metaphor/venting process. I have no clue if that was the intent of the makers, but it was funny to me - over the top - hyperbole. Catch-22 kinda hit me the same way.

I'll think more on it; I'm sure I'm forgetting something.
This is how I saw it. I was 33 when it came out, and I didn't think much of any message - just an over-the-top satire on "men aren't men anymore". Fun movie, good twist, little silly in some places. Weird / squirmy ending. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Was a hell of a lineup today. Wednesday’s this month on TCM have been peak cinema.
yes - thank you for hyping it to us last week. it's a TCM celebration of cinematography (because they have a new doc on early DPs - worthy too) which continues next Wednesday beginning @ 6am w Doctor Zhivago, Bergman's Fanny & Alexander, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, Cabaret, Cool Hand Luke, McCabe & Mrs Miller, Klute, The Last Picture Show and The Wild Bunch

 
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yes - thank you for hyping it to us last week. it's a TCM celebration of cinematography (because they have a new doc on early DPs - worthy too) which continues next Wednesday beginning @ 6am w Doctor Zhivago, Bergman's Fanny & Alexander, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, Cabaret, Cool Hand Luke, McCabe & Mrs Miller, Klute, The Last Picture Show and The Wild Bunch
That's another good lineup.

Tuesdays have been great this month too with Bette Davis as the Star of the Month.  

 
Tuesdays have been great this month too with Bette Davis as the Star of the Month.  
Used to love her but, for some reason, can't abide watching her these days. When i was a kid, the only old movies i got to watch was the Dialing For Dollars movie at noon every day and my local station must have had a deal with Warner Bros cuz that was all we got. I loved it cuz that meant Bogie & Cagney & Eddie G & Garfield and Miss Davis, lotsa Bette Davis. She was just more adventurous/scandalous than the other actresses and i've always loved a goer. For some reason, though, all i see now is the pop-eyed histrionics and it bonks me out anymore. Damn shame - i loved all her going blind, loving tragically & finding herself in weird places.

 
Used to love her but, for some reason, can't abide watching her these days. When i was a kid, the only old movies i got to watch was the Dialing For Dollars movie at noon every day and my local station must have had a deal with Warner Bros cuz that was all we got. I loved it cuz that meant Bogie & Cagney & Eddie G & Garfield and Miss Davis, lotsa Bette Davis. She was just more adventurous/scandalous than the other actresses and i've always loved a goer. For some reason, though, all i see now is the pop-eyed histrionics and it bonks me out anymore. Damn shame - i loved all her going blind, loving tragically & finding herself in weird places.
I've probably had the opposite, and come to appreciate her more over the years. She does not quite have the elite films of the other top stars (besides All About Eve, which is just about perfect as films go), but a pretty deep collection of good films.  Few actresses could pull off the conniving figure quite like her.  

 
I've probably had the opposite, and come to appreciate her more over the years. She does not quite have the elite films of the other top stars (besides All About Eve, which is just about perfect as films go), but a pretty deep collection of good films.  Few actresses could pull off the conniving figure quite like her.  
yes, i'm aware that most of my impatience w things that used to engage me is the tunnelizing effect of old age. won't be long before i'm down to griping only about disrupted syndication episode orders for Law & Order and Blue Bloods....

 
Bad news on the homefront. It seems that I can't login to my parents Spectrum account to watch TCM (or anything else). I just get an error page.

I think the Feds are on to my questionable activity.

I'm now going to bar all my doors and windows in case the FBI raids.

Wish me luck.

Edit: No. I really don't think the Feds are coming, rockaction. ;)

 
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