Ilov80s
Footballguy
Both are gorgeous but lacking a bit in the personality department IMO.
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
80s ... you know your ####, but ... WHIFF!!!!!
*Sorry. I am drinking an Irish Coffee. First alcohol for me since Derby eve. I was honoring my boy Sean. Now, I have to drink without him. :(
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Wait!
I got more!
You mean to tell me that the dude famous for hookin' up with robot women is actually accusing these fine ladies of "lacking a bit in the personality department"?!?!?
WTF man?!?!
I got more!
You mean to tell me that the dude famous for hookin' up with robot women is actually accusing these fine ladies of "lacking a bit in the personality department"?!?!?
WTF man?!?!
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I stand by it. Natalie Wood and Grace Kelly were quite bland, didn't have the chops when compared to the likes of Katharine Hepburn and Bette Davis.
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Well .. if you couch in these terms - relative comparisons ok - but what about the robots?!
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I didn't hook up with robot women, I hooked up with women who I met when I was helping the Mexican robot makers get out of Canada.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Looks like we've got a nomination. I do believe I saw a Lucille Ball noir as well- was with George Saunders and Charles Coburn if I remember correctly.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
:whoosh:
You expect me to believe that? Smuggling Mexican Robot Makers across the border? That's quite a noir you pitch!
Hmmm. The robots sounds better than in my day. We didn't even have heads on em yet.
Kudos to you!
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Looked it up- Lured. Also stars Boris Karloff and is oddly enough directed by Douglas Sirk.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
One of Lucille Ball's first screen credits was in a "Three Stooges" short.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkiJeNxgiIM
ren hoek
Footballguy
Never saw A Simple Plan, but I have watched 4 seasons of The Killing. I’d put the first two seasons of that show up against anything as far as thrillers/dramas go. You can pretty much skip the third and 4th seasons; they move on to a wholly different narrative and it’s just not the same.
It’s a shame they didn’t just continue onward with the indian reservation plot line, I thought that would have been a cool direction to go instead of abandoning the characters they’d developed.
But that ending to season 2, I don’t think I’ve ever been as crushed by a tv show as I was by that. I mean BB is up there, always was and will be an all-time great, but that 2-season storyline is phenomenal.
It’s a shame they didn’t just continue onward with the indian reservation plot line, I thought that would have been a cool direction to go instead of abandoning the characters they’d developed.
But that ending to season 2, I don’t think I’ve ever been as crushed by a tv show as I was by that. I mean BB is up there, always was and will be an all-time great, but that 2-season storyline is phenomenal.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Appreciate the thoughts but that's not The Killing to which we are referring. We are talking about the Stanley Kubrick movie.
ren hoek
Footballguy
Yeah I knew that. Just testing you all to make sure you were talking about the right one!
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Throwing this out for discussion... your Top Ten film noirs? I’m going to put some thought into this one today/tonight.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
wikkid's Top Ten Noirs
1. Chinatown - closest to perfect of any movie ever made
2. The Maltese Falcon - Huston set the tone for the form and no one's improved on it
3. The Long Goodbye - i should just shut up already about how much i love this film so i will
4. Double Indemnity - I grew up on Fred McMurray being the goofy dad, so watching him do this to a tee brings glee to me. and Billy Wilder's sense of dramedy is ideal for the form
5. Lady From Shanghai - the Welles camera angles fit the genre like they were the original idea
6. Body Heat - nothing i don't love about this film
7. Farewell My Lovely (1975) - Hot take: Bob Mitchum is a better Marlowe than Bogie. He's about 10 years too old in this to be perfect, but his voice fits Chandler's words like Stephen Fry's fits J.K.Rowling's.
8. The Third Man - greatest nightful dreamscape
9. Out of the Past - next to County Mayo Ireland, Bridgeport and the East Walker River country is my favorite place on earth and is just such a lovely sorbet between the heaping courses of sinfulness in this classic.
10. Laura - la da da dee da daaaa da dum
1. Chinatown - closest to perfect of any movie ever made
2. The Maltese Falcon - Huston set the tone for the form and no one's improved on it
3. The Long Goodbye - i should just shut up already about how much i love this film so i will
4. Double Indemnity - I grew up on Fred McMurray being the goofy dad, so watching him do this to a tee brings glee to me. and Billy Wilder's sense of dramedy is ideal for the form
5. Lady From Shanghai - the Welles camera angles fit the genre like they were the original idea
6. Body Heat - nothing i don't love about this film
7. Farewell My Lovely (1975) - Hot take: Bob Mitchum is a better Marlowe than Bogie. He's about 10 years too old in this to be perfect, but his voice fits Chandler's words like Stephen Fry's fits J.K.Rowling's.
8. The Third Man - greatest nightful dreamscape
9. Out of the Past - next to County Mayo Ireland, Bridgeport and the East Walker River country is my favorite place on earth and is just such a lovely sorbet between the heaping courses of sinfulness in this classic.
10. Laura - la da da dee da daaaa da dum
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Not sure my list looks too different from Wikkid so I’ll do 3 mini lists
Classic Noir
The Big Sleep
The Big Heat
Out of the Past
The Third Man
Double Indemnity
Lesser known Noirs
The Breaking Point
Scarlet Street
Sudden Fear
The Narrow Margin
Where the Sidewalk Ends
Neo-noirs
Chinatown
Night Moves
Fargo
The Long Goodbye
LA Confidential
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yep, John Huston in is his directorial debut really set the ball rolling. This and Gun for Hire to me really kicked off the noir as a major American movement. Gun for Hire has Lake/Ladd which is ace pairing, Graham Greene wrote it which is about as good as it gets. I just wish someone other than Frank Tuttle was directing it. He films it about as straight up as it gets. Someone of just slightly more skill could have really done something special with it.wikkidpissah said:
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Gun for Hire was on this weekend, but i missed it. Good one, but my fave Lake/Ladd noir is The Blue Dahlia, from an original Raymond Chandler script. They're great together and there's a topnotch nutso meltdown from Wm Bendix in it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Watching it on DVR right now and I might have misjudged Tuttle the first time. The second half of the film has some real nice noir shots. This might have been every bit as influential on noir as The Maltese Falcon. Unlike TMF, TGFH gets out and moves a lot more- not everything is so confined to apartments.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Nice idea on this list.
Nice lists 80s & wikkid.
I need more time.*
*I'm not a NERD like wikkid & 80s
Nice lists 80s & wikkid.
I need more time.*
*I'm not a NERD like wikkid & 80s
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Alright, here’s mine. Love the lists so far. Added some movies to my watchlist....
- The Third Man - Just about the perfect movie to me. The zither. Post-war Vienna. Orson Welles, Joseph Cotten. Carol Reed and the cinematography.
- Out of the Past - Probably the film that turned me onto early film noir.
- Sunset Boulevard - Combines my interest in film noir with silent movies. Billy Wilder can’t be beat.
- Chinatown
- Miller’s Crossing
- The Big Sleep - Quintessential Bogie and Bacall.
- The Big Lebowski - Going a bit off chalk here — it qualifies as a noir to me. The Dude is Marlowe.
- Blue Collar - Not quite the traditional movie that one would associate with noir (Richard Pryor as star and the Captain Beefheart music, for a couple), but the story is all noir. It is a heist one in the vein of The Killing. I think this one gets over-looked too much. Holds up pretty well.
- Gun Crazy - Dalton Trumbo classic. Early precursor to previous selection, Bonnie and Clyde.
- Touch of Evil - Director’s cut version. Love the opening tracking shot more than anything, but the movie is great overall.
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
OK. I am working on my list. I am not going to list them in any particular order - just as they come to me. Also, I am not looking for the "best"; I am looking for the ones that touched me the most. I have my first entry now.
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty - this is listed under "Noir comedies / parodies" by Wikipedia.
I first saw this '85 when we were preparing for a stage production of it. I played the Narrator that would fill the space between various skits pulled from the original. I can't say it was my favorite role that I ever played, but I did get to finished the production with a 10 minute monologue where I would also paint an oil on canvas of a flower. That was probably my favorite scene to play. The multitasking made it more interesting that the other stuff I have done.
I also really enjoyed the '13 version with Ben Stiller.
More coming.
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty - this is listed under "Noir comedies / parodies" by Wikipedia.
I first saw this '85 when we were preparing for a stage production of it. I played the Narrator that would fill the space between various skits pulled from the original. I can't say it was my favorite role that I ever played, but I did get to finished the production with a 10 minute monologue where I would also paint an oil on canvas of a flower. That was probably my favorite scene to play. The multitasking made it more interesting that the other stuff I have done.
I also really enjoyed the '13 version with Ben Stiller.
More coming.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
i would have watched both by now cuz i'm on a free trial, but i've fallen in love with Mrs Maisel and a new season of her comes up in Dec so i'll be signed up long enough to have time to push my memory refresh of Noirvember selections til just before deadline, when it's best
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
I must be in love, because there's quite a bit that needs forgiving (continuity & era wise) w MMM but, unlike any other show i've ever seen, i am not only willing to forgive but look forward to opportunities to do so, like a heartsick freshman. #### up!
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The funniest part is the kids who seem to come and go as the show needs them. She’s the worst mom on TV but who cares, she’s perfect to me!
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
That's more accurate than you might imagine. I came in a little late and quite a bit poor for the phenomenon, but nanny-raised was the dream. I was reared as a piece of ethnic furniture for neighbors & relatives to be impressed by. My mother would have had us laminated if she could. I would have KILLED to be ignored.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Picture quality looked fine to me. I watched The Killing on an iPad, and A Simple Plan through a Fire Stick.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Plan on rocking both on bluray. The Killing is one of the Criterion that I have at home.
I have noticed that Amazon's picture quality can be sketchy at times, but I guess that could be our internet too (maybe it's lagging and the app switches to a lower resolution or something?)
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
I'm watching the Lawrence of Arabia restoration on a flip-phone right now. Seems fine...
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
We made it around to watching The Anderson Tapes before it goes off streaming on Sunday.
It's an entertaining heist movie that used surveillance as a gimmick to frame the film and occasionally bump the plot along. It didn't have as much to say about the serious themes explored by the movie club films.
Connery was strong as usual and it was a hoot to see what passed for state of the art technology in 1971. Some of the character stereotypes were kind of cringey but that's not unusual for a movie from a half century ago.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Saw it as well. It was ok but a long long way off in quality and message from The Conversation.
Eephus
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
TCM is airing an often overlooked 70s revisionist noir on Sunday during the late football window. Check your local listings.
The Late Show starts off innocently enough when a hippie dippie Lily Tomlin seeks out old gumshoe Art Carney to find her missing cat but things go downhill from there. The movie works well as both a character piece and a convoluted whodunit. It was written and directed by Robert Benton who wrote Bonnie and Clyde.
The closest comparison is Altman's version of The Long Goodbye. I prefer The Late Show because it's aware of its own mythology but not excessively. Carney is also a better center than Elliott Gould who I can never buy into as Marlowe.
The Late Show starts off innocently enough when a hippie dippie Lily Tomlin seeks out old gumshoe Art Carney to find her missing cat but things go downhill from there. The movie works well as both a character piece and a convoluted whodunit. It was written and directed by Robert Benton who wrote Bonnie and Clyde.
The closest comparison is Altman's version of The Long Goodbye. I prefer The Late Show because it's aware of its own mythology but not excessively. Carney is also a better center than Elliott Gould who I can never buy into as Marlowe.
jwb
Footballguy
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Midnight tonight on TCM - Kansas City Confidential. Have seen it multiple times and liked it from the beginning. John Payne, Preston Foster, Lee Van Cleef, Jack Elam, Coleen Gray (The Killing)
From wiki:
The plot served as inspiration for Quentin Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs.
From wiki:
The plot served as inspiration for Quentin Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs.
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Eephus is pumped!
I am a little behind on my list, as I am working on my photos from the Mayor Pete fund raiser in Lexington on Thursday night.
However, I have #2.
Arsenic and Old Lace
We put this on in '86. I only had a bit part (I did more in the 2nd feature however, A Thurber Carnival - too bad it's not a noir). Anyways, the actress who played the maid (Edit: I think it was a maid. It was not an original role, iirc.) was a major crush for me. And, on my birthday, we all went to see the The Rocky Horror Picture Show. I dressed as Riff Raff.
I was too shy to make the 1st move. Luckily, she wasn't.
Backstage for this run was the best of my life.
As far as the movie. Top notch. Cary Grant is quite the athlete; I love his "body humor". Highly recommended.
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Yes. Love that movie. It doesn't seem to be very well known about for some unknown reason.Eephus is pumped!
I am a little behind on my list, as I am working on my photos from the Mayor Pete fund raiser in Lexington on Thursday night.
However, I have #2.
Arsenic and Old Lace
We put this on in '86. I only had a bit part (I did more in the 2nd feature however, A Thurber Carnival - too bad it's not a noir). Anyways, the actress who played the maid (Edit: I think it was a maid. It was not an original role, iirc.) was a major crush for me. And, on my birthday, we all went to see the The Rocky Horror Picture Show. I dressed as Riff Raff.
I was too shy to make the 1st move. Luckily, she wasn't.
Backstage for this run was the best of my life.
As far as the movie. Top notch. Cary Grant is quite the athlete; I love his "body humor". Highly recommended.
