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1 minute ago, krista4 said:

I'll be eager to read what you think.  Your review of LBMISF was a fantastic read.  Honestly don't remember Snowpiercer that well except that I liked it much more than I expected.  Probably need to watch it again.

You're too kind.

 

Seeing the Bong give his Oscar speeches piqued my interest and gives me a little backstory to work with.  He seems like an auteur, let's see what he does with dystopian sci-fi.

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7 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

...and Bong has 3 Oscars with one more in sight 

...and I have 3 Bongs with one ready to light!

 

 

Great news on the wins. 👍

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IMO this month highlights what's wrong with streaming services and how we lose access to movies vs a quality movie rental joint.  While I like all his movies, I think our two are slightly lesser Bongs, and would love access to Mother, The Host, and Memories of Murder.  

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6 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

IMO this month highlights what's wrong with streaming services and how we lose access to movies vs a quality movie rental joint.  While I like all his movies, I think our two are slightly lesser Bongs, and would love access to Mother, The Host, and Memories of Murder.  

Also his 2 English films

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2 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

IMO this month highlights what's wrong with streaming services and how we lose access to movies vs a quality movie rental joint.  While I like all his movies, I think our two are slightly lesser Bongs, and would love access to Mother, The Host, and Memories of Murder.  

Sadly, my state don't allow renting joints at the movies - of any quality.

So - I just sneak my own in - of high quality.

Seriously, I agree. I was soooo sad when my local rental shops closed. 

 

 

*My weed puns for this month may get irritating.  Please don't stone me for them.*

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Is this where we go to jump on the bandwagon?

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This is like the spike in dungeons and dragons club members after Jeremy irons brought home the Oscar for his role in dungeons and dragons, the movie 

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3 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

:confused:

Maybe im wrong but I thought Snowpiercer and Okja are his  two movies that had a large chunk in English and with English actors?

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6 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

Maybe im wrong but I thought Snowpiercer and Okja are his  two movies that had a large chunk in English and with English actors?

Gotcha.  My point was that you can't find the others on streaming easily.   Pretty sure I head Memories of Murder is not even on bluray and is hard to find (I need to see if I still have my dvd downstairs).  

Just remember the cool video store at the UW that had thousands and thousands of movies, and even when I did the disc option for NF it felt like I could watch anything I want.  Streaming changed all that.   It almost feels like the opposite of the music streaming in that music you can listen to basically whatever you want, but movies I struggle to find more than a dozen on a service.  

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24 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Gotcha.  My point was that you can't find the others on streaming easily.   Pretty sure I head Memories of Murder is not even on bluray and is hard to find (I need to see if I still have my dvd downstairs).  

Just remember the cool video store at the UW that had thousands and thousands of movies, and even when I did the disc option for NF it felt like I could watch anything I want.  Streaming changed all that.   It almost feels like the opposite of the music streaming in that music you can listen to basically whatever you want, but movies I struggle to find more than a dozen on a service.  

Oh yeah, I agree. I was just clumsily pointing out that the 2 movies for the month are in English.

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3 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Oh yeah, I agree. I was just clumsily pointing out that the 2 movies for the month are in English.

Okja is more is a little more 50/50 if I remember right.  

As far as theme, I think Snowpiercer is a nice setup for what came next for him with Parasite. 

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13 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

IMO this month highlights what's wrong with streaming services and how we lose access to movies vs a quality movie rental joint.  While I like all his movies, I think our two are slightly lesser Bongs, and would love access to Mother, The Host, and Memories of Murder.  

From 2001 to about 2012, I purchased DVD's seemingly every week. I must have 1,500-2,000. Seeing how lousy and limited streaming really is, I'm happy I have them. 

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The bong is loaded with Snow Piercer tonight 

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The 1st hour of Snowpiercer: I wasn't feeling it and didn't see  the Bong touch. 

2nd hour: pretty well done social criticism, all of a sudden fun and I can totally see how this is the guy who directed Parasite.

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1 hour ago, Ilov80s said:

The bong is loaded with Snow Piercer tonight 

Oooh.  Is that the new strand at the local dispensary?

 

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1 hour ago, Ilov80s said:

The 1st hour of Snowpiercer: I wasn't feeling it and didn't see  the Bong touch. 

2nd hour: pretty well done social criticism, all of a sudden fun and I can totally see how this is the guy who directed Parasite.

I totally agree. (Eh, except I haven't seen Parasite yet - so I can't comment on that part.) 

Without spoiling, I can only say that in the 1st half, I had a major question that wasn't clear & it bugged me - kinda. 

2nd half answered it well. 

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On 11/22/2019 at 3:04 PM, Eephus said:

We made it around to watching The Anderson Tapes before it goes off streaming on Sunday.

It's an entertaining heist movie that used surveillance as a gimmick to frame the film and occasionally bump the plot along.  It didn't have as much to say about the serious themes explored by the movie club films. 

Connery was strong as usual and it was a hoot to see what passed for state of the art technology in 1971.  Some of the character stereotypes were kind of cringey but that's not unusual for a movie from a half century ago.

Gonna watch it tonight. Coming at 12:40 am on Movies! Network. 
Probably been 10 years since I saw it

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I loved Parasite, but I didn’t really feel Snowpiercer. Found it kind of uninteresting. Maybe I’ll have better luck with Okja.

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On 2/13/2020 at 10:41 PM, Don Quixote said:

I loved Parasite, but I didn’t really feel Snowpiercer. Found it kind of uninteresting. Maybe I’ll have better luck with Okja.

You watch Okja yet? I’m probably going to this weekend. 

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29 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

You watch Okja yet? I’m probably going to this weekend. 

Not yet. I'll try this weekend as well.

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42 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

which is first choronologically?

Snowpiercer 

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Jake Gyllenhaal really goes for it in Okja lol. He’s turned out to have had quite an interesting career. 

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On 2/13/2020 at 10:41 PM, Don Quixote said:

I loved Parasite, but I didn’t really feel Snowpiercer. Found it kind of uninteresting. Maybe I’ll have better luck with Okja.

I did not like Snowpiercer at all. It seemed disjointed and I found myself bored for most of it. I did enjoy the Big League Chew/Chewable Meth/Explosives though.   

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1 hour ago, Osaurus said:

I did not like Snowpiercer at all. It seemed disjointed and I found myself bored for most of it. I did enjoy the Big League Chew/Chewable Meth/Explosives though.   

I am definitely enjoying Okja a lot more

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2 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

Jake Gyllenhaal really goes for it in Okja lol. He’s turned out to have had quite an interesting career. 

Yeah, he is uh... interesting in that movie.  

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28 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Yeah, he is uh... interesting in that movie.  

It worked for me since the movie is kind of like a comic/graphic novel come to life.

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Interesting that Bong was so well known in the film industry, able to get names like Evans, Gyllenhaal, Swinton and $50 million from Netflix to make these American movies but didn’t really make much of a dent in mainstream movie watchers until he went back to Korea to make a Korean language film.

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On 2/23/2020 at 7:55 PM, Ilov80s said:

I am definitely enjoying Okja a lot more

I've started Okja, but haven't finished it yet.  Agree - I'm enjoying it a lot more than Snowpiercer.

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I watched Snowpiercer last week.  Yup, yes I did.

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1 hour ago, Eephus said:

I watched Snowpiercer last week.  Yup, yes I did.

It got way to caught up in the metaphor and forgot to have any fun. Okja and Parasite are dark but manage to have some humor and fun. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

It got way to caught up in the metaphor and forgot to have any fun. Okja and Parasite are dark but manage to have some humor and fun. 

 

 

It got caught up in a mess of stuff.

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14 hours ago, Eephus said:

It got caught up in a mess of stuff.

I see that now. I hadn’t seen the post about Bos yet when I replied. Sorry about the loss but also it sounds like your family was blessed to have such a loyal companion. Thanks for all the contributions here, in the music threads and the board in general. 

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Snowpiercer - Ugh. Stillborn exposition mired in the stultifying logic of zombieverse melodrama. Orwell might have regretted writing if he knew this was how it would be borrowed. The cinematic equivalent of a Rush tribute band. Oooeee - can't wait for the next one

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2 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

Snowpiercer - Ugh. Stillborn exposition mired in the stultifying logic of zombieverse melodrama. Orwell might have regretted writing if he knew this was how it would be borrowed. The cinematic equivalent of a Rush tribute band. Oooeee - can't wait for the next one

Well posted. Have you seen Parasite? I think this is an interesting case of seeing how bad a good writer/director can be. Even Hitchcock and Wilder has duds. Snowpiercer was a total whiff for me as well. 

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Are there many cases like this where foreign director does American movies like this? 

Is it something in the translation of ideas? Meddling from our studio system? 

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48 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Well posted. Have you seen Parasite? I think this is an interesting case of seeing how bad a good writer/director can be. Even Hitchcock and Wilder has duds. Snowpiercer was a total whiff for me as well. 

Pardon my delayed response - i had to watch an extra 30Rock just to get my girlish insouciance back. No - havent seen Parasite

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2 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Are there many cases like this where foreign director does American movies like this? 

Is it something in the translation of ideas? Meddling from our studio system? 

If you look at the the 30s-50s, it is full of foreign directors who fled Europe to make movies in America. Billy Wilder, Fritz Lang, Otto Preminger and so on. 

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16 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

If you look at the the 30s-50s, it is full of foreign directors who fled Europe to make movies in America. Billy Wilder, Fritz Lang, Otto Preminger and so on. 

I guess I am not well versed on a couple.   Was it mostly just to be able to do movies in general?  Wilder and Preminger mostly did American/English movies, right?  

 

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2 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

I guess I am not well versed on a couple.   Was it mostly just to be able to do movies in general?  Wilder and Preminger mostly did American/English movies, right?  

 

Yeah, the whole NAZI/Holocaust thing wasn't looking good so most of the great filmmakers came to Hollywood pre-WW2. 

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The European emigres made the best Hollywood movies IMO, whether that is Capra, Hitchcock or Curtiz. 

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The stories of Hollywood immigrants are fascinating.  I recommend Otto Friedrich's City of Nets as a popular history of Los Angeles in the 40s.

I was racking my brain trying to think of directors from the next generation who made one-offs in English.  The only one I thought of Truffaut who did Fahrenheit 451.  There are guys like Bertolucci and Louis Malle who bounced back and forth but it seems like most great directors of the 60s and 70s worked almost exclusively in their native tongue.

I'm sure I'm missing some obvious ones.

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3 minutes ago, Eephus said:

The stories of Hollywood immigrants are fascinating.  I recommend Otto Friedrich's City of Nets as a popular history of Los Angeles in the 40s.

I was racking my brain trying to think of directors from the next generation who made one-offs in English.  The only one I thought of Truffaut who did Fahrenheit 451.  There are guys like Bertolucci and Louis Malle who bounced back and forth but it seems like most great directors of the 60s and 70s worked almost exclusively in their native tongue.

I'm sure I'm missing some obvious ones.

I love a future month where we focus on emigres who came to Hollywood 

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Really 5 people voted they did not see Okja? Come on guys!!!

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40 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:
49 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

I guess I am not well versed on a couple.   Was it mostly just to be able to do movies in general?  Wilder and Preminger mostly did American/English movies, right?  

 

Yeah, the whole NAZI/Holocaust thing wasn't looking good so most of the great filmmakers came to Hollywood pre-WW2. 

It wasn't just directors. Other immigrant artists in Hollywood included cinematographers, set designers, composers, craftspeople, etc. Some were escaping Fascism but many were just following the money.  Either way, it was a boon for the still young industry..

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1 hour ago, KarmaPolice said:

Are there many cases like this where foreign director does American movies like this? 

Is it something in the translation of ideas? Meddling from our studio system? 

 

I'm not sure I understand the question, are you talking only about directors who only make non-English films directing a one-off English language American film? 

Because most of Hollywood is foreign directors now

 

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One of the most notorious American one offs is Michelangelo Antonioni's Zabriskie Point.  There's a watchable print on YouTube if you dare.  I've seen Blowup and a couple of his Italian films but Antonioni is a taste I never acquired.

Wim Wenders is a European who's made some excellent films in this country.

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