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26 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Was it your first time seeing it? Did you like it? 

First time. Had no idea what it was about before hand.
Different. Throughout I kept thinking what a ####ed up movie this is (in a good way, if that makes sense).  But I did like it.

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On 10/30/2019 at 8:13 PM, KarmaPolice said:

I am sure there are a bloke or two that has some sketchy download hookup 'round these parts.  

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Just watched LTROI and I loved it. I know I have seen bits and pieces of it in the past but I feel this was my first tie watching it in its entirety. I love it. Loved much of the lighting, practical effects, and atmosphere. I am in the desert and I felt like I was in the European woods while watching this. It had just the right amount of old world feel to it as well. 

I also particularly enjoyed the death by house cat attack. I kind of want to know why that guy would have that many cats. I think I counted a dozen or more cats that show up from no where. Awesome fun but confusing.

Excellent pairing this month. Love love love bullies getting owned. 

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15 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

I made this a little while ago and have been updating it with our movies, ratings, best comments, etc. Now seems like a good time to share. We shall see who can make the cut and get their reviews/comments into the October review. 

Check out the FBG Movie Club

Thanks to @Eephus @wikkidpissah @krista4 @Andy Dufresne @Don Quixote @Charlie Steiner @jwb @saintfool @identikit @RC94 @prosopis @McJose and everyone else who has helped KP and I make this thread worthwhile. 

Far out

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I have just begun my Carrie watch, and I feel the need to comment on the infamous opening scene before I go any further. 

Note: I rewound multiple times in order to improve my accuracy here - so, trust me.

1) The ball handling is atrocious! I counted at least 3 mishandles and 2 double hits without focusing too hard.

2) No one was setting the outside hitters. It should have been bump - set - spike. But; nope!

3) Carrie got harshed for the team loss, but the shot she missed, was actually the only decent hit displayed during the whole shebang. Not fair!

 

I can already see how this is not gonna end well ...

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Carrie pee break update #1

Dewey Decimal System spotting. Sweet!

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I've read that. Not bad.

I hope Carrier checks it out. 

EDIT: Damn - she took another book. :(

 

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On 10/25/2019 at 7:49 PM, Ilov80s said:

Vote for the  November Movie Theme

Option 1: Noirvember 

Option 2: Hitchcockian

Option 3: The Deep State

Reply to this post with your vote and I will keep tabs (note must have at least 7 votes for it to be official). Last day to vote is Election Day Tuesday, November 4th 

Since this has already been decided; I guess it is time for me to vote.

2) Hitchcockian

The name ... can't not vote for.

 

OK. Carrie down - enjoyed it much (in its campy way) - will vote after I finish Let the Right One In.

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15 minutes ago, Man of Constant Sorrow said:

Since this has already been decided; I guess it is time for me to vote.

2) Hitchcockian

The name ... can't not vote for.

 

OK. Carrie down - enjoyed it much (in its campy way) - will vote after I finish Let the Right One In.

Maybe another time for the Hitchcockian and Deep State- I'll tuck them away for another time. I am glad Noirvember pulled it out. 

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1 minute ago, Ilov80s said:

Maybe another time for the Hitchcockian and Deep State- I'll tuck them away for another time. I am glad Noirvember pulled it out

That sentence has gots lots of euphemism.

Well done!

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On 10/31/2019 at 1:52 PM, Ilov80s said:

I made this a little while ago and have been updating it with our movies, ratings, best comments, etc. Now seems like a good time to share. We shall see who can make the cut and get their reviews/comments into the October review. 

Check out the FBG Movie Club

Thanks to @Eephus @wikkidpissah @krista4 @Andy Dufresne @Don Quixote @Charlie Steiner @jwb @saintfool @identikit @RC94 @prosopis @McJose and everyone else who has helped KP and I make this thread worthwhile. 

So cool!

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On 10/31/2019 at 3:52 PM, Ilov80s said:

I made this a little while ago and have been updating it with our movies, ratings, best comments, etc. Now seems like a good time to share. We shall see who can make the cut and get their reviews/comments into the October review. 

Check out the FBG Movie Club

Thanks to @Eephus @wikkidpissah @krista4 @Andy Dufresne @Don Quixote @Charlie Steiner @jwb @saintfool @identikit @RC94 @prosopis @McJose and everyone else who has helped KP and I make this thread worthwhile. 

This is awesome - great work on that! 

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On 10/31/2019 at 1:52 PM, Ilov80s said:

I made this a little while ago and have been updating it with our movies, ratings, best comments, etc. Now seems like a good time to share. We shall see who can make the cut and get their reviews/comments into the October review. 

Check out the FBG Movie Club

Thanks to @Eephus @wikkidpissah @krista4 @Andy Dufresne @Don Quixote @Charlie Steiner @jwb @saintfool @identikit @RC94 @prosopis @McJose and everyone else who has helped KP and I make this thread worthwhile. 

Aw, shucks. Did I write that on one of those? Thanks for the slide show. Sorry I haven't been as active a member as I would like, I'm just reading along for the most part. 

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22 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Aw, shucks. Did I write that on one of those? Thanks for the slide show. Sorry I haven't been as active a member as I would like, I'm just reading along for the most part. 

You did- that movie/month was right up your alley. Feel free to read along and join in whenever it strikes you.

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Carrie on my Watch List this AM.

Been a good 30 years since I've seen it.  

I know I saw one of the remakes.

 

 

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Love to hear from the people who watched Let the Right One In.  I didn't get to the rewatch on Halloween, but did watch it last night.   

I never know quite how to handle the ending.  There is scenes of sweetness in the movie, but overall I am still left with an overwhelming scene of loneliness at the end for these two.  How much does Eli care vs. her just needing a human to get her blood?  Does Oskar realize the life he is in for as he becomes the next Hakan?   Seems like they are a fitting pair, but that doesn't make it a happy pair.  

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7 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Love to hear from the people who watched Let the Right One In.  I didn't get to the rewatch on Halloween, but did watch it last night.   

I never know quite how to handle the ending.  There is scenes of sweetness in the movie, but overall I am still left with an overwhelming scene of loneliness at the end for these two.  How much does Eli care vs. her just needing a human to get her blood?  Does Oskar realize the life he is in for as he becomes the next Hakan?   Seems like they are a fitting pair, but that doesn't make it a happy pair.  

Yeah it’s a real depressing movie. There is no possible escape for either at this point. 

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53 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Love to hear from the people who watched Let the Right One In.  I didn't get to the rewatch on Halloween, but did watch it last night.   

I never know quite how to handle the ending.  There is scenes of sweetness in the movie, but overall I am still left with an overwhelming scene of loneliness at the end for these two.  How much does Eli care vs. her just needing a human to get her blood?  Does Oskar realize the life he is in for as he becomes the next Hakan?   Seems like they are a fitting pair, but that doesn't make it a happy pair.  

I had joined Prime this weekend cuz i thought it was on there & my free month would cover that & Noirvember, but it wasn't. I'll rent it tonite or tomorrow.

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55 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Love to hear from the people who watched Let the Right One In.  I didn't get to the rewatch on Halloween, but did watch it last night.   

I never know quite how to handle the ending.  There is scenes of sweetness in the movie, but overall I am still left with an overwhelming scene of loneliness at the end for these two.  How much does Eli care vs. her just needing a human to get her blood?  Does Oskar realize the life he is in for as he becomes the next Hakan?   Seems like they are a fitting pair, but that doesn't make it a happy pair.  

A case could be made that Eli targeted Oskar as a possible replacement for Hakan, but initially there was no need for that.  I would add that given how things went sideways with Hakan,  there were probably enough other botched attempts that in her experience she knew she had to plan ahead for when she had to relocate quickly and replace her caretaker that she had to plan for such contingencies as a matter of survival. 

As for Oskar, yes he was a perfect choice for Eli in that he was an outcast/loner, but I think that the friendship she offers him makes him happy and is a better choice for him than the path he was on when they met, even though it means he's going to be murdering people for the rest of his life. I think the bond they have is genuine, even though it comes from very different places and has very different meanings to each of them.

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1 hour ago, wikkidpissah said:

I had joined Prime this weekend cuz i thought it was on there & my free month would cover that & Noirvember, but it wasn't. I'll rent it tonite or tomorrow.

Both noir movies are on prime for free so it will workout in that sense 

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3 hours ago, Charlie Steiner said:

A case could be made that Eli targeted Oskar as a possible replacement for Hakan, but initially there was no need for that.  I would add that given how things went sideways with Hakan,  there were probably enough other botched attempts that in her experience she knew she had to plan ahead for when she had to relocate quickly and replace her caretaker that she had to plan for such contingencies as a matter of survival. 

As for Oskar, yes he was a perfect choice for Eli in that he was an outcast/loner, but I think that the friendship she offers him makes him happy and is a better choice for him than the path he was on when they met, even though it means he's going to be murdering people for the rest of his life. I think the bond they have is genuine, even though it comes from very different places and has very different meanings to each of them.

I'm not sure it was intentional at all, I mean - why would she target a 12 year old boy to help with the killings.  I just think that over the course of the film it seemed like Hakan was becoming inept or his heart wasn't in it anymore and a replacement was probably going to be needed.  

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Another thing I love about this film and what I imagine a lesser film (can't remember how much the American version did the following) wouldn't have the restraint to do, and that's try to force feed us backstory.  Unless I missed it, they never said how old Eli was (in vampire years), how long she had  been with Hakan, WTF was up with the no genitalia thing, etc..   I know some these details are in the book along with others (Hakan was a pedophile), but I like it more when movies leave these details for us to wrestle with.  It make it more creepy to think about it Eli is 150 years old vs just was turned a few years ago, and it make it more unsettling that we don't know.   I also appreciate the vampire movies more when they are represented like this, not the hypnotic sexy vampires we see too much.  Eli is more like a feral cat.  

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11 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

I'm not sure it was intentional at all, I mean - why would she target a 12 year old boy to help with the killings.  I just think that over the course of the film it seemed like Hakan was becoming inept or his heart wasn't in it anymore and a replacement was probably going to be needed.  

I actually think it was more serendipity than intentional, but like you said, there were a lot of unanswered questions such that I could have seen that particular angle. As for Hakan, his ineptitude is part of why I thought it possible that Eli saw the same qualities in Oskar that she had seen in Hakan when she had 'recruited' him in the past.

Speaking of no genitalia, that was the one scene that disturbed me and I could have done without.

 

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1 minute ago, Charlie Steiner said:

Speaking of no genitalia, that was the one scene that disturbed me and I could have done without.

 

If I remember right, the explanation is worse than the visual.  

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Just now, KarmaPolice said:

If I remember right, the explanation is worse than the visual.  

I'll have to take your word for that.

Out of curiosity, did the explanation precede the visual?

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1 hour ago, Charlie Steiner said:

I'll have to take your word for that.

Out of curiosity, did the explanation precede the visual?

If it was part of the movie, it was more of a deleted scene.  I was listening to a podcast that reviewed the movie last night and they said it was supposedly part of him/her becoming a vampire for some reason.  I assume it was part of the book, as I started reading that a couple years ago and could tell that it was going to go places that the movie didn't and I probably didn't want to as well.  

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I'm turning in an incomplete this month.  Too much baseball and not enough appetite for horror.

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33 minutes ago, Eephus said:

I'm turning in an incomplete this month.  Too much baseball and not enough appetite for horror.

:penalty:

 

Haven't you seen one of them? 

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I am interested in the 2 movies as allegories: one for drug addict and enabler relationship, another for the “school shooter” phenomenon that didn’t even exist at the time. We have a kid who is abused and picked on so fantasizes about superpowers and takes revenge on the abusers with violence. I’m sure that wasn't what either filmmakers were going for but it’s where my mind went.

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20 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

:penalty:

 

Haven't you seen one of them? 

I saw Carrie in the theater when it came out :bag: and vaguely remember watching it again on TV, although that may have only been the ending.

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1 hour ago, Eephus said:

I'm turning in an incomplete this month.  Too much baseball and not enough appetite for horror.

I think I’m doing the same. It has been a couple of weeks since I’ve watched a movie. 😥 

On the bright side, the Nats won!!

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1 hour ago, Ilov80s said:

I am interested in the 2 movies as allegories: one for drug addict and enabler relationship, another for the “school shooter” phenomenon that didn’t even exist at the time. We have a kid who is abused and picked on so fantasizes about superpowers and takes revenge on the abusers with violence. I’m sure that wasn't what either filmmakers were going for but it’s where my mind went.

In Carrie, I see your point. In retrospect, it seems that I did not remember much from my 1st watch sometime in the '80s (which I lov too btw). I thought of it as a "horror movie" before my recent watch. Now, I don't see that way primarily. 

I know that others have touched on this earlier (you and wikkid at a min), so I don't want to claim any originally here; but it is a teen-flick/revenge fantasy with horror elements - imo.

While I was having fun with my 1st post about the volleyball opening, I was serious about Carrie being unfairly harshed from the very beginning - even b4 the true "infamous opening scene". I have not read the book, so I don't know anything about King's part in this, but the movie is not hinged on the supernatural, rather the supernatural just fills a needed role: means of revenge.

Oh - and like all teen-flicks, it needs its bared skin too - even if brief, unnecessary and/or unrelated to the rest of the plot. I won't complain too much.

As for the fun and campiness ... I loved all of Travolta's scenes. Not because he was good (ain't sayin he wasn't), but because he always had a beer and wtf look. The cop car scene was familiar to me - and I especially loved when he was "hiding" under the stage when the curtain got pulled back ... he had a beer of course - and no one noticed him or his beer. Kinda like when the other couple "stealthily" dropped the real ballots on the floor - er - on the dance floor ... with everyone around, and the dude kicked em under the curtains as the camera panned it - sweet scene. It was great. I am not being facetious here either; as it reminded me so much of the teen movies I grew up watching - that apparently got this from Carrie.

I'll think of more details latr.

 

Also, I still need to watch LTROI - my dog ate it - really.

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Oh - I almost forgot the part(s) that made me laugh the most. 

Now - I need to state that I am against violence of this sort and do not find real life instances of this humorous - at all. Today, we look differently at things like this, and the juxtaposition of the way it was handled at the time is the actual source of my laugh.

That said, Chris had a really bad day. Did anyone count how many times her face got slapped? I can think of at least 3 right now. Poor lass. I mean yeah - she's dead now, but crap - she was getting worked over pretty badly before Carrie raised a #### storm.

And speaking of Carrie ... when the teach slapped her to calm her down ... I saw this.

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I may have more to say about each/both later, but i just watched Let the Right One In and i can tell you the difference between it and Carrie and what made one a Faberge puzzle and one a waste of time.

Patience.

Carrie was in a hurry from beginning to end, an entirely stoopit thing from such a fan of Hitchcock as de Palma has always professed to be. In a hurry to titilate, in a hurry to identify the tormenters & tormented, in too much a hurry to show how Carrie reacted to these unbelievable powers (yeah, the first thing i'd do if i could blow #### up with my feelings is go to the library seeking precedent), too much in a hurry to give her a normally terrible mother, too much in a hurry to get to the central prank. THEN it lingers for twenty minutes over a payoff we all know is going to happen. Honestly, by then Carrie could have blown up all their heads, made the earth cave in on itself and turned off the sun and i wouldnta cared less.

Let the Right One In took its time. Made me feel the loneliness in the child, the meaninglessness of his world, the magic desperation of the bete noire. By the halfway point, i wanted, yearned for the most wondrous things to happen, the most horrible things to happen, the most delicious things to happen. And they did. The taker of blood put blood into the heart of the only one who really mattered. Me...i mean him....i mean me. Come in.

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1 hour ago, wikkidpissah said:

I may have more to say about each/both later, but i just watched Let the Right One In and i can tell you the difference between it and Carrie and what made one a Faberge puzzle and one a waste of time.

Patience.

Carrie was in a hurry from beginning to end, an entirely stoopit thing from such a fan of Hitchcock as de Palma has always professed to be. In a hurry to titilate, in a hurry to identify the tormenters & tormented, in too much a hurry to show how Carrie reacted to these unbelievable powers (yeah, the first thing i'd do if i could blow #### up with my feelings is go to the library seeking precedent), too much in a hurry to give her a normally terrible mother, too much in a hurry to get to the central prank. THEN it lingers for twenty minutes over a payoff we all know is going to happen. Honestly, by then Carrie could have blown up all their heads, made the earth cave in on itself and turned off the sun and i wouldnta cared less.

Let the Right One In took its time. Made me feel the loneliness in the child, the meaninglessness of his world, the magic desperation of the bete noire. By the halfway point, i wanted, yearned for the most wondrous things to happen, the most horrible things to happen, the most delicious things to happen. And they did. The taker of blood put blood into the heart of the only one who really mattered. Me...i mean him....i mean me. Come in.

That's definitely making it on the slide show for this month. Well said. 

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1 hour ago, wikkidpissah said:

.... (yeah, the first thing i'd do if i could blow #### up with my feelings is go to the library seeking precedent), ...

Ya know - that would make for a great thread.

"What would you do 1st, if you discovered that you had telekinesis?"

Luckily, another all-time classic movie explores this in depth.

 

Very nice review btw. 👍

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11 hours ago, Man of Constant Sorrow said:

 

In Carrie, I see your point. In retrospect, it seems that I did not remember much from my 1st watch sometime in the '80s (which I lov too btw). I thought of it as a "horror movie" before my recent watch. Now, I don't see that way primarily. 

I know that others have touched on this earlier (you and wikkid at a min), so I don't want to claim any originally here; but it is a teen-flick/revenge fantasy with horror elements - imo.

While I was having fun with my 1st post about the volleyball opening, I was serious about Carrie being unfairly harshed from the very beginning - even b4 the true "infamous opening scene". I have not read the book, so I don't know anything about King's part in this, but the movie is not hinged on the supernatural, rather the supernatural just fills a needed role: means of revenge.

Oh - and like all teen-flicks, it needs its bared skin too - even if brief, unnecessary and/or unrelated to the rest of the plot. I won't complain too much.

As for the fun and campiness ... I loved all of Travolta's scenes. Not because he was good (ain't sayin he wasn't), but because he always had a beer and wtf look. The cop car scene was familiar to me - and I especially loved when he was "hiding" under the stage when the curtain got pulled back ... he had a beer of course - and no one noticed him or his beer. Kinda like when the other couple "stealthily" dropped the real ballots on the floor - er - on the dance floor ... with everyone around, and the dude kicked em under the curtains as the camera panned it - sweet scene. It was great. I am not being facetious here either; as it reminded me so much of the teen movies I grew up watching - that apparently got this from Carrie.

I'll think of more details latr.

 

Also, I still need to watch LTROI - my dog ate it - really.

This reminds me of one detail. No body drinks a beer the way Travolta does in this movie. More was running down his face then he was drinking.

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12 hours ago, wikkidpissah said:

I may have more to say about each/both later, but i just watched Let the Right One In and i can tell you the difference between it and Carrie and what made one a Faberge puzzle and one a waste of time.

Patience.

Carrie was in a hurry from beginning to end, an entirely stoopit thing from such a fan of Hitchcock as de Palma has always professed to be. In a hurry to titilate, in a hurry to identify the tormenters & tormented, in too much a hurry to show how Carrie reacted to these unbelievable powers (yeah, the first thing i'd do if i could blow #### up with my feelings is go to the library seeking precedent), too much in a hurry to give her a normally terrible mother, too much in a hurry to get to the central prank. THEN it lingers for twenty minutes over a payoff we all know is going to happen. Honestly, by then Carrie could have blown up all their heads, made the earth cave in on itself and turned off the sun and i wouldnta cared less.

Let the Right One In took its time. Made me feel the loneliness in the child, the meaninglessness of his world, the magic desperation of the bete noire. By the halfway point, i wanted, yearned for the most wondrous things to happen, the most horrible things to happen, the most delicious things to happen. And they did. The taker of blood put blood into the heart of the only one who really mattered. Me...i mean him....i mean me. Come in.

I do wonder how much of this is a function of just these two movies, and how much is how we make our movies - especially horror movies.  This is a big reason I gravitate to the foreign horror movies and why so many would be at the top of my list for the genre, especially in the last couple decades when a lot of the American movies are all about what you are describing - rushing through to get to the next boobie shot, jump scare, or gory setup.  Great horror for me has great acting, and the ability to let the audience squirm as they drag out the suspense.  Let the Right One In as a great example of this, as is something like Audition.  That movie has plenty of scares and gore, but it also had the patience to set up the beginning in what felt like a dreamy rom-com, so when the #### hit the fan it was all the more unsettling.  

All that said, I like Carrie a lot more than you seem to, despite the 70s cheese.  

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15 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

I am interested in the 2 movies as allegories: one for drug addict and enabler relationship, another for the “school shooter” phenomenon that didn’t even exist at the time. We have a kid who is abused and picked on so fantasizes about superpowers and takes revenge on the abusers with violence. I’m sure that wasn't what either filmmakers were going for but it’s where my mind went.

I can get the behind the 2nd one a bit, but I personally didn't pick up on the first one.   What stuff in the movie was giving you that vibe - mostly Hakan having to do her dirty work and getting the blood, etc..? 

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3 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

I do wonder how much of this is a function of just these two movies, and how much is how we make our movies - especially horror movies.  This is a big reason I gravitate to the foreign horror movies and why so many would be at the top of my list for the genre, especially in the last couple decades when a lot of the American movies are all about what you are describing - rushing through to get to the next boobie shot, jump scare, or gory setup.  Great horror for me has great acting, and the ability to let the audience squirm as they drag out the suspense.  Let the Right One In as a great example of this, as is something like Audition.  That movie has plenty of scares and gore, but it also had the patience to set up the beginning in what felt like a dreamy rom-com, so when the #### hit the fan it was all the more unsettling.  

All that said, I like Carrie a lot more than you seem to, despite the 70s cheese.  

It may also be that the Scandinavians have more night. It's only light about 5 hrs in winter there. There's no greater stillness than dark & snow, which is probably where they get their patience as well as their creepiness.

As i said before, i'm fairly immune to blood & horror, as i am to action. I'm a gen behind being satisfied by a movie just by the eye####. But, each June for the last few years, i've been writing on a vampire novel (it's basically Vlad goes to Washington - the youngest of the two remaining Dracul/Tepes OG vampires goes to fix the problems caused by his brother Radu, who starts wars as cover for satisfying his appetites, and ends up being chased by DARPA for his DNA) and my favorite themes to think on in its composition are time (what has a person learned when theyre almost 600 yrs old?), hunger and loneliness, all of which are beautifully dealt with in LTROI. 

The important thing with this flick, as opposed to Carrie, is that i felt no dread. That's good for me, because i'm inclined to put fear, guilt & dread away quickly and become easily bored & irritated by them in storytelling. By the time stuff started happening here, i wanted it to happen. We explore themes like serial killers & vampirism & such because we want to know that of which the human instrument is capable, so it's much more delectable to be on the side of the monster than to fear being its victim. Caring about the Frankenstein monster as much as the victims is what started the horror (and science fiction) genre. By the time Carrie became the monster, i didn't care.

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2 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:
17 hours ago, Man of Constant Sorrow said:

Also, I still need to watch LTROI - my dog ate it - really.

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Not believable?

OK, it was my cat ...

 

Seriously, I got LTROI pulled up for rental now and am gonna watch in the next few hours. The reviews here so far have me looking forward to it much.

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3 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

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All that said, I like Carrie a lot more than you seem to, despite the 70s cheese. 

I'm with you on this, but I would not use the word "despite". I enjoyed the cheese greatly. 👍

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8 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

I can get the behind the 2nd one a bit, but I personally didn't pick up on the first one.   What stuff in the movie was giving you that vibe - mostly Hakan having to do her dirty work and getting the blood, etc..? 

Eli is obviously dependent on the forbidden blood. She can't control herself without it, she looks like a strung out drug addicted mess. She stays inside all day, only comes out at night, is depressed, doesn't have many interests beyond getting her fix. Hakan's life is totally ruined by her addiction. His life is consumed with trying to help her get her fix, not get caught, take care of her needs. He does unspeakable things that I am sure he couldn't have imagined and really isn't getting much out of it. Oskar is weak and desperate for a friend. He seems to get pulled into the Hakan role, doomed for a life trying to help someone who can't be helped, someone who will likely ruin his life, drain it dry slowly. A few simple changes and it could easily have been about a young heroin addict, the old creep who gets her drugs in exchange for some kind of taboo gratification and the young lonely boy who gets pulled in not out of romantic love but to fill a dark hole in each other. Both doomed for a life of perpetual hell. 

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I just finished LTROI.

It is a very good movie. Well acted & written.  The soundtrack and cinematography are superb. I can't point to any flaws - but, I did not enjoy it as much as Carrie for one reason alone; it was too depressing for me. I'm not asserting that it is objectively depressing, rather that is how it affected me.

Carrie had enough cheese to carry my spirits through the horror elements. LTROI did not. I ended up splitting it into 3rds and took a short intermission between each - just cause I felt like doing it.

If I were to rate the 2 for objective quality, I think LTROI is much better. However, it just wasn't my style. And, as I stated earlier, I am not very well versed in the horror genre to begin with.

However, I do think that it touched some pretty interesting topics. 

On 11/4/2019 at 9:55 AM, KarmaPolice said:

I never know quite how to handle the ending.  There is scenes of sweetness in the movie, but overall I am still left with an overwhelming scene of loneliness at the end for these two.  How much does Eli care vs. her just needing a human to get her blood?  Does Oskar realize the life he is in for as he becomes the next Hakan?   Seems like they are a fitting pair, but that doesn't make it a happy pair.

Yeah. There is a certain nihilism to the ending, imo. I was left with the feeling that these questions are left open intentionally - it is just the way things now are for this pair. And to a degree, that in itself is as horrifying as the supernatural elements.

I need to sleep on it I think.

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10 minutes ago, Man of Constant Sorrow said:

I just finished LTROI.

It is a very good movie. Well acted & written.  The soundtrack and cinematography are superb. I can't point to any flaws - but, I did not enjoy it as much as Carrie for one reason alone; it was too depressing for me. I'm not asserting that it is objectively depressing, rather that is how it affected me.

Carrie had enough cheese to carry my spirits through the horror elements. LTROI did not. I ended up splitting it into 3rds and took a short intermission between each - just cause I felt like doing it.

If I were to rate the 2 for objective quality, I think LTROI is much better. However, it just wasn't my style. And, as I stated earlier, I am not very well versed in the horror genre to begin with.

However, I do think that it touched some pretty interesting topics. 

Yeah. There is a certain nihilism to the ending, imo. I was left with the feeling that these questions are left open intentionally - it is just the way things now are for this pair. And to a degree, that in itself is as horrifying as the supernatural elements.

I need to sleep on it I think.

There is a pretty intense sense of melancholy throughout the entirety of LTROI. It’s sadness is almost beautiful in a way, at least to me. And I think that is what ultimately elevated the film beyond the constraints of its genre.

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8 minutes ago, bigbottom said:

There is a pretty intense sense of melancholy throughout the entirety of LTROI. It’s sadness is almost beautiful in a way, at least to me. And I think that is what ultimately elevated the film beyond the constraints of its genre.

Yeah. Good point.

I see how it can be viewed that way. It's the primary reason that I didn't want to label the movie itself as too depressing - just its effect on me.

I think that after I sleep on it, and get over my current brain chemistry, I will be able to look at it from your perspective a little better.

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Looks like we’ve settled into a solid audience size. 17 votes this month, 16 last, 17 and 20 the months prior. Looks like we are sustainable.

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Got around to "Let the Right One In" last night.  I'm not sure I can add much over what has been said already, but agree on it being pretty well-done and a good selection. It will stop me from stereotyping movies based on a plot involving a teenage vampire romance.

Agree on the movie and ending having some melancholy/sadness to it.  It had some Romeo and Juliet vibes to me; the protagonists don't die at the end, but not quite a "happily ever after" for the couple.

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6 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Looks like we’ve settled into a solid audience size. 17 votes this month, 16 last, 17 and 20 the months prior. Looks like we are sustainable.

I still have not voted, since I wanted to sleep on it.

Also, I need to ask - should I vote based on my opinion of movie quality or my personal enjoyment of watching the movie? I didn't even think of that till now.

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