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FBG Movie Club: We're Getting the Band Back Together: Metallica vs Nina Simone Movie Docs (7 Viewers)
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wikkidpissah
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They call me MISTER Interested!
Ilov80s
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Ilov80s
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September Movie Club Double Feature
This month we did something a little different. @KarmaPolice picked a movie and then I was tasked with picking something that I thought would compliment it for a logical double feature. He picked the first film
1997: The Sweet Hereafter
A bus crash in a small town brings a lawyer to the town to defend the families, but he discovers that everything is not what it seems.
Streaming on Amazon Prime
and I chose
1980: Ordinary People
An affluent family finds their relationships deeply strained following the accidental death of their oldest son.
Streaming on Amazon Prime
Spoiler discussion for the movies will open up 10/7.
This month we did something a little different. @KarmaPolice picked a movie and then I was tasked with picking something that I thought would compliment it for a logical double feature. He picked the first film
1997: The Sweet Hereafter
A bus crash in a small town brings a lawyer to the town to defend the families, but he discovers that everything is not what it seems.
Streaming on Amazon Prime
and I chose
1980: Ordinary People
An affluent family finds their relationships deeply strained following the accidental death of their oldest son.
Streaming on Amazon Prime
Spoiler discussion for the movies will open up 10/7.
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krista4
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That’s exciting- it’s new to me. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on it.One of my all-time top 20.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Haven't seen The Sweet Hereafter
yet
yet
rockaction
Footballguy
Haven't seen either of the two newer picks. That The Sweet Hereafter made a top twenty sounds promising.
Looks like good discussion this month. Did not watch the end of In The Heat Of The Night (got to the first greenhouse scene -- musta missed the slap) or re-watch Bonnie and Clyde.
Looks like good discussion this month. Did not watch the end of In The Heat Of The Night (got to the first greenhouse scene -- musta missed the slap) or re-watch Bonnie and Clyde.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The slap is during the greenhouse scene- tough to miss and probably a top 20 all time movie moment imo.
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh, wow. I stopped it right when he's manipulating the flower and comparing it to "The Negro..."
I sort of stopped it because I didn't like where the soliloquy was heading and it was late night/early morning. Didn't want to get agitated. Funny.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah it was all set up for the moment black characters/actors were first given an equal place on the movie screen. Black audiences apparently cheered like it was a Jackie Robinson homerun when Poitier smacked him.
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh, Poitier slapped him? I just gleaned the last page so I might not be encumbered with any spoilers, figured that endeavor useless, and read Eephus's comment about rural/urban America and settings and the attendant slap/Shatner comments.
I'm glad this seemed to go well.
On to this iteration of Movie Club. I hope to be two for four.
rockaction
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
I actually put together an all-time top 10 maybe 15 years ago, which you can imagine was as difficult as ranking all the Beatles songs. At that time, The Sweet Hereafter was in my top 10. I figure it’s slipped down into 11-20 by now but haven’t actually made a list. I’ll watch it again for this, and I’m excited to see the discussion!
El Floppo
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an old firm where I worked got hired by him and annette to do their main LA house. we were the 7th firm they hired (firing the previous 6). warren would call my boss ALL the time, at all hours, expecting him to not only pick up but get #### done (middle of the night on a sunday). sounds like that's just how he rolled- extremely high expectations of the people around him getting stuff done, and at his behest. we lasted a little less than a month before they went on to firm #8.
El Floppo
Footballguy
no surprise, it's way up there for me too.One of my all-time top 20.
after exotica and this, (and the adjuster, iirc) I thought egoyan was on a tippy top level... some of the stuff since then ... not so much.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I can't remember it at all.... I thought I did, but now wondering if I ever even saw it.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
well, i get a month off. seen both, liked neither, delighted in tormenting folks who thought any cinephile should love both (i do remember coming up with a phrase talking about OP that i used A LOT castigating the Oprah gestalt - "the better to simmer in the rendered fat of their misfortunes" - later on), but do not remember them well enough to debate their merits in a forum. only way i re-watch either is if basic cable shows OP in the next month. neither is on Netflix. i'll miss the jabberjabber, but i'll be glad not to have to watch either again.
krista4
Footballguy
I thought Felicia’s Journey was still tippy top, but I agree with you after that. Haven’t seen the last 2-3, though.
krista4
Footballguy
I seem to recall your saying you wouldn’t participate in the last discussion because you didn’t like either movie, either, but you just can’t quit us.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
I liked, not loved that one... but definitely liked it.
I saw Captives in the last several years... it was not good.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
well, i didn't have much to say about B&C, before or after rewatching, and didn't think i'd get to re-watch ITHOTN but it was on TCM. i got a lot of mileage out of how much i hate the Deep South - and no one even drew me into how much great literature & cinema i disqualify purely on southernness - so i was able to keep a hand in...
no, i'd adore exercising my minority viewpoint on these flix (having been in the adolescent psych biz when OP came out, i had a LOT to say on that at the time), but it's been too long since i seen em to do it right.
saintfool
Dead sexy
i *loved* Exotica at the time. the trouble for me with "Sweet..." was that I read the novel beforehand. I am a fan of Russell Banks and this did a so-so job of telling this story. "Affliction" was another of his novel adapted and Nolte got jobbed for the Oscar there. Regardless, Egoyan has had a string of missteps following "Where the Truth Lies" with "Adoration", "Chloe" and everything else.
saintfool
Dead sexy
my small town, deeply racist small town Southern grandmother told me once that she'd shoot any black man that slapped her like that. hell, she told me that she'd shoot any black man who called her a "white #####" like Eddie Murphy did on SNL in the "Prose and Cons" sketch. We were gobsmacked. My dad was like "uh, time to go to bed boys..."
I can scarcely imagine her response to Poitier doing that.
Nick Vermeil
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McJose
Footballguy
Osaurus
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
like a rabid polecat under the porch, man - no more thought than that
the screenwriter was perhaps the greatest episodic TV writer of the 60s - i go to sleep to TZ and Hitchcock Presents on ME-TV every night and Stirling Siliphant's name is on almost every ep. but he's another northern guy, as is just about everybody connected w the film. black-guy-in-white-world's a great trope, one that SS woulda put in his back pocket. if they'd gotten the south too right, there probably woulda been a lot more fuss. but it's a serious flaw that slapper & slappee are free men at the end.
Eephus
Footballguy
I'm interested in how time has changed my perspective about Ordinary People. I saw it shortly after it came out. I was (and still am) the same age as Timothy Hutton. Now I've passed the parents in age. I wasn't impressed much by it the first time around but I didn't connect with the characters. Maybe I'll find more universality in the story this time through.
I know nothing about The Sweet Hereafter. 1997 was peak baby time for us.
I know nothing about The Sweet Hereafter. 1997 was peak baby time for us.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I haven’t seen either of the two. Looking forward to watching.
Eephus
Footballguy
It was a gutsy call to cast America's Sweetheart totally against type but she did a great job with the role.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
She was very odd to follow as a hottie.for someone my age. On the #### Van Dyke Show, she was rockin' those Capri pants and being all girlie, but she was also a mom and her son on the show was only a coupla yrs younger than i was, so i was feeling gooey & wrong at the same time. Then she'd been diagnosed as very diabetic just before the MTM Show and, from week to week her appearance would change. She'd be all rosy & round one week and gaunt & drawn the next. Weird. But that smile. That smile was what enjoying life was all about. Everybody wanted a girl as real & nice as her.Ilov80s said:
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Jules Winnfield
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I’ve been so busy with new job, football season and all kinds of weekend events that I haven’t seen any movie in awhile. I’m looking forward to these 2.
Eephus
Footballguy
I made it through about 45 minutes of "The Call Me MISTER Tibbs", the 1970 sequel to ITHOTN. Without any reference to the backstory of the original, Tibbs has relocated to San Francisco where he's made Lieutenant on the SFPD. The Tibbs character is written with more of a biting sense of humor.
The racial tension that permeated ITHOTN is nowhere to be found. The police procedural is still there, this time involving the murder of a prostitute. Suspects include Martin Landau as a politically active minister, a sleazy Anthony Zerbe and Edward Asner in a ridiculous toupee.
The filmmakers have filled space by inserting Tibbs' wife and two children into the story. They've also managed to cram a large soundstage apartment into a North Beach building. Poitier's domestic struggles remind me of Danny Glover's similar issues in the Lethal Weapon series.
The production values are much lower than ITHOTN. It looks like a 70s TV cop show with a slightly higher budget. I'm probably more interested in the location footage of SF than you will be but even with that, I'm not sure I'll finish it off before it disappears from TCM.com at the end of the month. The third film of the Tibbs trilogy "The Organization" is there as well but I'm pretty sure I've seen that one before.
ETA: In case you're wondering , they haven't managed to work the sequel's title into the dialog yet.
The racial tension that permeated ITHOTN is nowhere to be found. The police procedural is still there, this time involving the murder of a prostitute. Suspects include Martin Landau as a politically active minister, a sleazy Anthony Zerbe and Edward Asner in a ridiculous toupee.
The filmmakers have filled space by inserting Tibbs' wife and two children into the story. They've also managed to cram a large soundstage apartment into a North Beach building. Poitier's domestic struggles remind me of Danny Glover's similar issues in the Lethal Weapon series.
The production values are much lower than ITHOTN. It looks like a 70s TV cop show with a slightly higher budget. I'm probably more interested in the location footage of SF than you will be but even with that, I'm not sure I'll finish it off before it disappears from TCM.com at the end of the month. The third film of the Tibbs trilogy "The Organization" is there as well but I'm pretty sure I've seen that one before.
ETA: In case you're wondering , they haven't managed to work the sequel's title into the dialog yet.
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Watched "The Sweet Hereafter" last night. Pretty dang good. Easily could have fallen more into a more stereotypical, maudlin type of movie about the event at the center of the movie, but Egoyan kept it above that.
Eephus
Footballguy
I was halfway in already so I finished this one off last night. It was a very odd sequel with little of what made ITHOTN great. Tibbs was like an alternate universe doppelganger of the character in the original film.
They managed to reprise the slap scene in the strangest way. Most of the domestic drama was related to Poitier's difficult relationship to his son who must have been about twelve years old. In one incredible scene, Tibbs catches him smoking a cigarette with a friend so he takes him to his room and forces him to smoke cigars and drink liquor until the kid vomits. Later after the son hits his sister, Tibbs slaps him for refusing to pick up his Legos. He hits him not just once but three times before hugging him and telling him he's not perfect.
There's a surprise ending like in the original but since the other suspects have all been killed or maimed by that time it's pretty academic.
identikit
Footballguy
Watched the Slender Thread on this recommendation.
Such great acting (Bancroft, Steven Hill, Sidney in particular).
Lots of familiar faces (Asner, Telly, Dabney Coleman)
A simple story, well-acted.
Modern-day Hollywood should take note.
identikit
Footballguy
Just finished Bedford.
Very good Cold War story, complete with a growingly-unhinged man in charge.
Forgot how good Widmark was.
Plus Wally Cox!
identikit
Footballguy
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