Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Are you seriously questioning whether Pelosi is a spy for China or are you just making a dumb joke?
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CNN Ratings Continue Free Fall (2 Viewers)
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Because the President pals around with their key stakeholders and quotes their content or just because they're corrosive to a decent, just and democratic society?
beef
Footballguy
pinkham13
Footballguy
100% serious. The communist helping Bidens gave the Chinese jet technology for a price of course.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/biden-kerry-sons-lucrative-but-shady-business-with-chicoms/
Feinstein had a Chinese spy on staff for 20 years
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/explain-the-chinese-spy-sen-feinstein/2018/08/09/0560ca60-9bfd-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html
I’m sure all Hillary’s emails went straight to her Chinese handler too.
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pinkham13
Footballguy
Plenty of praise for and cooperation with communists from Schumer and Pelosi
https://freedomoutpost.com/the-democrats-their-ties-to-communists-socialists-in-america/
Many of the objectives for communism in the United States resemble the democrat objectives
http://www.returnofkings.com/123828/a-1958-list-of-communist-objectives-for-america-is-now-nearly-complete
https://freedomoutpost.com/the-democrats-their-ties-to-communists-socialists-in-america/
Many of the objectives for communism in the United States resemble the democrat objectives
http://www.returnofkings.com/123828/a-1958-list-of-communist-objectives-for-america-is-now-nearly-complete
Widbil83
Footballguy
The Biden’s are complete stooges for China. The media hasn’t even touched Hunter (and Joes) China corruption.
https://nypost.com/2019/10/10/6-facts-about-hunter-bidens-business-dealings-in-china/
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Look the other way Dems, corruption is only a Republican thing.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
If that was illegal then he would have been arrested sometime in January 2017.
If Republicans thought that was corrupt then Ivanka wouldn't be allowed to travel with President Trump.
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Apple Jack
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Hey, just blame everybody else of doing what you're doing and it'll blow over. No muss, no fuss.
timschochet
Footballguy
If Biden did something corrupt in China then charge him. I don’t want any crooks around.
But I’m skeptical because he’s had a long political career and seems pretty clean.
But I’m skeptical because he’s had a long political career and seems pretty clean.
BladeRunner
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The Commish
Footballguy
The honesty here is refreshing.jon_mx said:
That is always the difference. I readily admit Trump is a low-life corrupt SOB.The honesty here is refreshing.
Max Power
Footballguy
Clay Travis
@ClayTravis
CNN missed its profit targets by $100-$120 million and Jeff Zucker may be on his way out now.
https://www.outkick.com/it-looks-like-jeff-zucker-is-plotting-his-exit-from-cnn-and-att/
While the Wall Street Journal does not present it with absolute certainty, it looks like Jeff Zucker’s time at CNN will wind down after the election.
@ClayTravis
CNN missed its profit targets by $100-$120 million and Jeff Zucker may be on his way out now.
https://www.outkick.com/it-looks-like-jeff-zucker-is-plotting-his-exit-from-cnn-and-att/
While the Wall Street Journal does not present it with absolute certainty, it looks like Jeff Zucker’s time at CNN will wind down after the election.
GoBirds
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I remember when CNN was watched to get up to the minute news. That was many years ago. I don’t know anyone that watches it these days.
sho nuff
Footballguy
CNN is? Yet...some are believing everything that comes out of actual tabloid the NYPost.
Also...talking about tabloid while replying to a post with a tweet from Clay Travis is an interesting dynamic to me...not much more tabloid than Travis is.
Max Power
Footballguy
What do you have against Clay Travis? He doesn't share your world view so that makes him a tabloid?
sho nuff
Footballguy
He is a shock jock style Stern wannabe who has always been a complete blowhard and it has zero to do with political anything.
This goes back years to when he was on radio here first getting into doing sports talk.
Max Power
Footballguy
I find him to be an excellent contrast to what the other networks roll out there. Sports talk radio has always been like that.
His reporting seems to be factual, so I don't know why you immediately dismiss it. Your loss.
sho nuff
Footballguy
His reporting seems to be factual? Not sure about that...it all seems opinionated meant to get clicks or listens above all else. Part of why I have avoided giving him much attention in the past several years.
Max Power
Footballguy
Why don't you show me some things he got wrong?
Do you put every reporter to get something wrong in the "tabloid" category as well?
sho nuff
Footballguy
No thanks...I don't find Clay Travis to be much more than an opinion shock jock. That is all. he isn't a news guy, isn't a fact guy...he is an opinion guy. I find most of them to be not worth my time.
For your second question...no, that is not what I am saying at all about reporters (Travis isn't actual a reporter).
Max Power
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
I do? When have I posted things from CNN?
Saying they are not a tabloid is not quite support of them...
Max Power
Footballguy
Not worth my time to look it up.
I got what you're saying. A sports guy who reports factual news with a Republican angle is a tabloid. A company who disingenuously reports the news isnt.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I don't think you do get what Im saying at all.
So I will move on from such a strange conversation.
Max Power
Footballguy
Chaz McNulty
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GROOT
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Who cares? I haven't watched cable news in years.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
They should make CNN, MSNBC and Fox call themselves Opinion stations like they do with op-Ed pieces in the paper. You want to have opinion shows then don’t call yourself news.
GoBirds
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Was he one of those public figures comparing Covid to the flu? And claiming that it was going to peak before the end of March?
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
They really need to get rid of people like Chris Cuomo and try to get actual news people back in if that is ever possible again. Sometimes when I watch Cuomo I think it is a parody. Then if anyone is critical of his brother he blows a gasket.
CNN is caught in trying to be MSNBC, but not just owning it. They aren't down the middle on anything. Time to admit it, embrace it, and maybe they can compete against the other networks in that space. They do need to get a better primetime lineup also, all lefties, but, once again, the network likes to refer to them as anchors or down the middle, not what they are as partisans. Own up. It's ok. It takes 5 minutes to realize how CNN is positioning themselves as a network.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Hardly anyone wants to watch unbiased TV news. NewsNation ratings are terrible. PBS NewsHour has leaned left. People want to be entertained.
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bigbottom
Footballguy
I think CNN actually does a pretty good job on news stories that have nothing to do with Trump. The problem is WAY TOO MANY of their news stories have to do with Trump. They just need to stop focusing so much on all Trump all the time.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I agree 100%. When covering non-politcal events and stories they do a nice job.
Trump is one of the reasons their ratings and credibilty is so bad and it appears to drive them crazy as he has convinced many, even left leaning people that they are not a credible news source anymore. So they focus all their hate toward him. Jim Acosta used to be a good reporter but has become so obnoxious with anything that has to do with Trump or his admisitration that he can`t cover any type story without his personal bias. Cooper and Lemon are the same as they can`t hide their hate when covering a story.
Then their whole demeanor, facial and body language changes when covering stories about Biden, Pelosi, Schumer or anyone other than Trump.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
Yes, but it goes beyond being entertained, imo. Too many people addicted to a feeling of self-satisfaction that comes when the TV guy tells them they're right about whatever they already thought.
Newsy even goes so far as to basically market themselves as "telling what you need to know, but not what you should think about it" yet they're stuck in the same boat as the shows you mentioned.
The Commish
Footballguy
I don't either, but there are apparently a ton of people watching/reading it. How else would they know how terrible it is? That's a whole other discussion though...not sure why people would watch something so bad just to be able to comment on how bad it is...crazy town
belljr
Footballguy
Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Pig Vomit: How can that be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given? "I want to see what he'll say next."
Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
Researcher: Most common answer? "I want to see what he'll say next
Pig Vomit: How can that be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given? "I want to see what he'll say next."
Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
Researcher: Most common answer? "I want to see what he'll say next
Shutout
Footballguy
Opposite, actually. Trump was a reason in 2016 that they had such good ratings for a while, back when they thought his speeches were just good for ratings and had him on all the time, etc.
It has been estimated that, across various platforms, Trump received about a $1Billion in free advertising from the media who now vilify him.
Trump doesn't do this to outfits like CNN; they do it to themselves with their dogged relentlessness to hate all things Trump.
There is an operation called Medical Research Center and I think the guy's name to look up is Tim Graham. His group has a staff of people who do nothing but watch ALL news, regardless of source, and document it, preserve it, count instances of anything people want counted, etc.
They recently did a study to count instances of how many negative remarks were made of Biden Vs. Trump. They checked in with all the topicals (CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc, etc,) and the numbers were something like 882 negative remarks on Trump and 32 for Biden. They didn't do it to show a bias against trump. They did it to parlay into what I mentioned above in how much discussion about each candidate there is and what it means. The numbers, while staggering, are just a byproduct.
I don't mention this to point out how the media is so against Trump. I point it out to outline their findings.
1)They postulate that media like CNN, MSNBC, etc are actually going to be hurt quite a deal more if Trump loses because, in simplest terms, they have put all their eggs in one basket and have nothing else that they tend to have to talk about.
2)They use this data (and lots of other) to make a case that CNN and some others, but mostly CNN and MSNBC, are, in fact, not really "news outlets" anymore. They are simply ongoing opinion talkshows at this point and there is, if anyone is interested in reading on it, a lot of data to show that it was started back in 1992 to start going this way, that it was evolved to satisfy ratings, and that their current head (at CNN) was trying to copycat the success of Fox.
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