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Trump’s approval rating hits 50% - politics forum miffed (1 Viewer)
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squistion
Footballguy
50% per Rasmussen?
No we are neither impressed nor miffed from that outlier poll that exclusively uses land lines.
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Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Link?
I think you have the wrong guy. Larry Sabato lives near Charlottesville and has repeatedly expressed his outrage at Trump's awful response to that horrible weekend.
He is pro-impeachment, and is also an advocate of the statues of the Confederate traitors to be torn down.
SaintsInDome2006
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[scooter]
Footballguy
There's no need to create a new thread every time Trump's Rasmussen number temporarily hits 50%.
Seriously, ask yourself how you and your likeminded posters would feel if squistion created a new thread every single time Trump's approval number dropped below 50%.
TripItUp
Footballguy
I actually think understanding the stark difference between reality and “this is the end of the world" 'tone taken on by most members of this forum is interesting and worthy of discussion.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
[scooter]
Footballguy
You didn't create this thread to discuss differences. You created the thread to celebrate Trump. And you picked a very bizarre method of doing that, as if you think that a poll itself is an achievement.
To put it another way: this poll regularly fluctuates between 43% and 51%. It's never too high or too low for more than a day or two. The fluctuations never correspond to any real-world achievement by Trump. If you want to cite the poll as proof that the public approves of his attack on the Democratic congresswomen, then you also need to own the fact that he was at 48% on Tuesday and he'll be back below 50% next week.
squistion
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
538 aggregate poll (including Rasmussen):
approval 42.3%
disapprove 52%
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
This has been extremely consistent for over 2 years now.
approval 42.3%
disapprove 52%
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
This has been extremely consistent for over 2 years now.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
I think they’re consistently skewed towards Republicans by about 10%. That’s what aggregate polling has shown for years. So personally I’m not miffed at all at a 50% approval rating. In fact I’m pleased.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
They exclusively use land lines for polling as has been pointed out in this forum dozens of times. People who use land lines tend to be older and more conservative which would favor Trump. So, once again, Rasmussen is an outlier.
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TripItUp
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And the polls that cnn was promoting during the last election were not really close...I’m certainly not trusting those.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
Weren't CNN's poll numbers for the popular vote and not the electoral college? If so, they were spot on.
And as I recall most polls that showed Hillary winning were within the margin of error (which is why Nate Silver was skeptical of Hillary victory up to election eve).
squistion
Footballguy
Yes, real polling numbers exclusively using land lines which means the responses will be more old white people who tend to be conservative.
sho nuff
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TripItUp
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TripItUp
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Juxtatarot
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squistion
Footballguy
Yes and how many of those reflected what ended up the actual popular vote and not the electoral college?
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sho nuff
Footballguy
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/315145-one-last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right?amp
And Rasmussen sucks...its a bad poll. Its not a great representative and guess what, it also isn't like the polling in 2016. These are approval polls that go back many many years and the aggregate continues to show Rasmussen to be a right wing outlier. Its been discussed...it didn't need its own thread. And no independent would keep pushing it, just as no independent would have copy ans pasted a list of accomplishments from Hannity. This thread isnt about any actual discussion.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
squistion
Footballguy
Of course it isn't, it is another Trump cheerleading piece based on one outlier poll.
I think I should take Scooter's suggestion and start a thread every time there is a new poll showing Trump's approval rating below 45%. It would keep me busy.
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Gopher State
Footballguy
No shock
record unemployment
stock market at all time high
Americans spending at a good clip
smoking hot housing market
fed to cut interest rates, more fuel for the fire
trade war over with Mexico
if and a big if, we get deal with China, everyone wins big time
people vote with their pocket books
are you better off now then 2 years ago, I am big time
record unemployment
stock market at all time high
Americans spending at a good clip
smoking hot housing market
fed to cut interest rates, more fuel for the fire
trade war over with Mexico
if and a big if, we get deal with China, everyone wins big time
people vote with their pocket books
are you better off now then 2 years ago, I am big time
Gopher State
Footballguy
[scooter]
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
>>The national polls weren't that off — they did predict more people would vote for Clinton. That's what happened.<<
squistion
Footballguy
[scooter]
Footballguy
Please don't.I think I should take Scooter's suggestion and start a thread every time there is a new poll showing Trump's approval rating below 45%. It would keep me busy.
If we had a new thread for each poll, there would be nearly 200 polls showing Trump under 45%, and only 13 polls showing him at 50% or higher (all of which are Rasmussen, of course).
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
>>Trump voters weren’t responding to telephone surveys because they had lower levels of civic engagement.<<
- Boy is that a truism or what?
timschochet
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
>>Because many traditional likely-voter models incorporate measures of enthusiasm into their calculus, 2016’s distinctly unenthused electorate – at least on the Democratic side – may have also wreaked some havoc with this aspect of measurement.<<
- This is what happened.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Ok...then maybe others do as well. You should not judge or generalize as who uses landlines. Older black, latino, asian and whites may all use landlines. We do not know.
squistion
Footballguy
Dude, I don't want to spend the time looking for links, but landlines are used more by older white people and less by younger folks and minorities (many of which are poor and don't have the money to pay the monthly bill for a landline).
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I agree and you don`t have to. Just don`t generalize like it is fact as we have no idea who was polled.
sho nuff
Footballguy
[scooter]
Footballguy
Come on, man.
Landline survey
- only 46.6% of white adults do not have a landline (compared to 52.1% of blacks and 64.8% of Hispanics)
- only 23.5% of senior citizens do not have a landline
Landline users are disproportionally white and old. Trump supporters are disproportionally white and old.
Statistically speaking, if you ONLY call landlines, then you are far more likely to reach Trump supporters.
Rasmussen knows this quite well.
edit: of course not every landline owner is a Trump supporter. No one is saying that.
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