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Where does Cinderella rank in greatest "hair band" rock groups of all time?

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11 minutes ago, Bull Dozier said:

Any poor soul that had to ride in my car around '90 heard this song far too much.  Loved it in a "should be a guilty pleasure but don't feel guilty about it" kinda way.  I bought the cassette single, and Trixter was so hard up for material, there was no B side.  So, I taped "High Enough" (by Damn Yankees) onto the blank side.  The two songs kept playing on a constant loop. That taped played over and over in my car ad naseum more times than I can count.

Damn Yankees were pretty good. Coming of Age, Come Again, and Rock City all shred.

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18 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

I rate them somewhere between Warrant and Tesla.

We've covered this Tesla is not a hair band.

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2 hours ago, Gary Coal Man said:

I feel like Cinderella gets treated worse than the other hair bands.

Darn that wicked stepmother. 

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1 hour ago, northern exposure said:

By the Wicked Step-sisters?

:kicksrock: I knew I should have scrolled further before I responded. 

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Since the subject of hairbands came up.....I was at a conference this weekend and on Saturday night, we sponsored an 80's night party. My love of 80's hair bands (all listed above) has resulted in various costumes over the years paying homage to all of the greats.

Here was my get up for the party. I think I killed it. :lmao:

Anyone want to help name my new album? :headbang:

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44 minutes ago, Senor Schmutzig said:

Since the subject of hairbands came up.....I was at a conference this weekend and on Saturday night, we sponsored an 80's night party. My love of 80's hair bands (all listed above) has resulted in various costumes over the years paying homage to all of the greats.

Here was my get up for the party. I think I killed it. :lmao:

Anyone want to help name my new album? :headbang:

Stay Regular

Out of the Wheelchair

Shout at the Neighborhood Kids

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48 minutes ago, Senor Schmutzig said:

Since the subject of hairbands came up.....I was at a conference this weekend and on Saturday night, we sponsored an 80's night party. My love of 80's hair bands (all listed above) has resulted in various costumes over the years paying homage to all of the greats.

Here was my get up for the party. I think I killed it. :lmao:

Anyone want to help name my new album? :headbang:

 You nailed the David Coverdale look.

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1 hour ago, peaces said:

Turn up the radio

 

because you have the right to rock.

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1 hour ago, Senor Schmutzig said:

Since the subject of hairbands came up.....I was at a conference this weekend and on Saturday night, we sponsored an 80's night party. My love of 80's hair bands (all listed above) has resulted in various costumes over the years paying homage to all of the greats.

Here was my get up for the party. I think I killed it. :lmao:

Anyone want to help name my new album? :headbang:

Appetite for Dinner at 4:30 pm

Operation: Mind.....errr, what now?

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1 hour ago, Senor Schmutzig said:

Since the subject of hairbands came up.....I was at a conference this weekend and on Saturday night, we sponsored an 80's night party. My love of 80's hair bands (all listed above) has resulted in various costumes over the years paying homage to all of the greats.

Here was my get up for the party. I think I killed it. :lmao:

Anyone want to help name my new album? :headbang:

You Can't Spell STUD Without STD

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So, to answer the original question, Cinderella is lower down the list of hair metal bands.  

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On August 1, 2019 at 5:32 PM, GStrot said:

So, to answer the original question, Cinderella is lower down the list of hair metal bands.  

Cinderella were never as big as Poison or Warrent but were a much better band.   I still like Cinderella much more than either of those bands.   Cinderellar opened for Poison many years and I went just for Cinderella.   Poison was terrible live.  I never understood how they became as big as they did.  

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All these bands are played on Hair Nation.  Maybe you should let them know that they don't qualify.

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On 8/1/2019 at 4:32 PM, GStrot said:

So, to answer the original question, Cinderella is lower down the list of hair metal bands.  

BS

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9 minutes ago, DocHolliday said:

Cinderella were never as big as Poison or Warrent but were a much better band.   I still like Cinderella much more than either of those bands.

:hifive:

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1 hour ago, DocHolliday said:

Cinderella were never as big as Poison or Warrent but were a much better band.   I still like Cinderella much more than either of those bands.   Cinderellar opened for Poison many years and I went just for Cinderella.   Poison was terrible live.  I never understood how they became as big as they did.  

Apropos of not much, I was never a fan, but I saw Poison open for Def Leppard  just a couple years ago and they were very good.  Fun, energetic, sounded good, then Lep came out and went through the motions, I came away that night thinking Poison was the better draw

As for Cinderella I loved em but they haven't had a ton of staying power for me in my old age.

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My go-to answer for best hair band is usually Ratt but it's hard tbh.. lots of stuff I still like to blast..

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Some other really late '80s/early 90s bands that the labels at least tried to shove as crossover into the hair metal section but didn't quite make it on account of being bands that were just too good or didn't have that "hit." Either way, I tried to pick non-LA bands that were always on the periphery of that scene at that time. (Life, Sex, and Death probably don't belong here, but they didn't know how to market this band on a major in 1992.) The king of them all, Vain, and their title track to their first, is at the bottom. 

(Cinderella was indeed one of the best of the hair metal bands, by far. Night Sounds was the ninth grade soundtrack on a driving trip from CT to FLA once, and it fit the bill)

Bands missing the cut so far in the thread, and all NSFW

Bang Tango - Someone Like You

Sea Hags - Half The Way Valley

Dangerous Toys - Teas'n Pleas'n

Dirty Looks - Turn Of The Screw

Cats In Boots - Coast To Coast

Love/Hate - Blackout In The Red Room 

Law And Order - In The Shelter

Life, Sex, and Death - ####in' #######

Dogs D'Amour - I Don't Want You To Go

And the best of them all: 

Vain - No Respect

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5 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Some other really late '80s/early 90s bands that the labels at least tried to shove as crossover into the hair metal section but didn't quite make it on account of being bands that were just too good. Life, Sex, and Death probably don't belong here, but they didn't know how to market this band on a major in 1992. The king of them all, Vain, and their title track to their first, is at the bottom. 

(Cinderella was indeed one of the best of the hair metal bands, by far. Night Sounds was the ninth grade soundtrack on a driving trip from CT to FLA once, and it fit the bill)

Bands missing the cut so far in the thread, and all NSFW

Bang Tango - Someone Like You

Dangerous Toys - Teas'n Pleas'n

Cats In Boots - Coast To Coast

Love/Hate - Blackout In The Red Room 

Law And Order - In The Shelter

Life, Sex, and Death - ####in' #######

And the best of them all: 

Vain - No Respect

Adding:

Spread Eagle - “Switchblade Serenade”

Roxx Gang - “No Easy Way Out”

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3 minutes ago, Quint said:

Spread Eagle was one of the first bands to come to mind making that post, and I totally dropped the ball and forgot to include them. I love the first half of their first album. 

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On 8/1/2019 at 5:32 PM, GStrot said:

So, to answer the original question, Cinderella is lower down the list of hair metal bands.  

Mainly because they had to leave the stage by midnight.

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49 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

If you mean they are crap, then yes.

It's like I don't even know some of you.

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Not a hair band, but Triumph is one of the underrated bands of all time. That is all.

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20 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

Not a hair band, but Triumph is one of the underrated bands of all time. That is all.

Rik Emmett is one of my all-time favorite musicians. His solo stuff since Triumph has such great variety. 

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5 minutes ago, cap'n grunge said:

One could make the case that The Darkness does it better than any of the originals.

For some reason, even an insipid, yet urgent sincerity like Hanoi Rocks sings about in a song like "Tragedy" places it out of the realm of possibility for chief and arch-browed ironists like The Darkness. The cold ironist can never really compete with the reality of feeling something important and grand, no matter how debased the topic is. The Darkness works because hair metal is foolish at its end, but it still never quite catches up to artistry of the longing of the sybarites.  

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11 minutes ago, cap'n grunge said:

Scorpions...not really hair metal I think?

Early euro metal.

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Oh, and as far as rank ordering goes, Cinderella would have to go behind L.A. Guns, Faster #####cat, Vain, and the number one, whom I already mentioned:

Hanoi Rocks (do the Stones) - I Want You

Hanoi Rocks (do the blues) - Self Destruction Blues

Hanoi Rocks (do the shred) - First Timer

Hanoi Rocks (do the riff) - Tragedy (see above for link)

Hanoi Rocks (do the Clash) - No Law Or Order

Hanoi Rocks (do the touching ballad) - Fallen Star 

Hanoi Rocks (do the glam/Dolls camp) - Pretender

Hanoi Rocks (do the Stones do the disco) - Kill City Kills

Hanoi Rocks (do the live) - Tragedy/Malibu Beach Nightmare

Hanoi Rocks (do the standard) - The Blitzkrieg Bop

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2 hours ago, cap'n grunge said:

One could make the case that The Darkness does it better than any of the originals.,

I would disagree. The Darkness is more of a classic 70s rock band tribute/influence (Led Zeppelin, Queen, etc.). Steel Panther would be the hair band equivalent.

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On 7/30/2019 at 9:55 AM, bryhamm said:

I think there are a few bands (Crue, VH, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, etc) who had their "phase" of going glam, but their true nature is not glam.  Hell, Aerosmith even had that brief phase of doing the glam thing in the 80s.  But they sure as hell aren't a hair band.

Agree with this. Aerosmith made their comeback during this time but not a hair band. Crue started out way-glam but they were more punk-based. Skid Row is tough because they have the pretty looking singer and couple hit ballads, but became progressively much heavier. Similarly, no one would call Pantera hair metal but 'hair' they were early on:

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2 hours ago, cap'n grunge said:

One could make the case that The Darkness does it better than any of the originals.

Nope.  

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41 minutes ago, raidergil said:

Agree with this. Aerosmith made their comeback during this time but not a hair band. Crue started out way-glam but they were more punk-based. Skid Row is tough because they have the pretty looking singer and couple hit ballads, but became progressively much heavier. Similarly, no one would call Pantera hair metal but 'hair' they were early on:

Pretty sure Skid Row is a classical music group. Their lead singer was Sebastian Bach afterall.

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So, to answer the original question, Cinderella is higher up the list of hair metal bands.  

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16 minutes ago, GStrot said:

So, to answer the original question, Cinderella is higher up the list of hair metal bands.  

I'd say they were light years better than Tuff or Pretty Boy Floyd, who pretty much set the bar for awfulness.  

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On 7/29/2019 at 1:59 PM, eoMMan said:

They are from my Area and Keifers hometown is 15 mins from me. I lived 5 Mins from where he grew up until I was 10 so I might be a little biased here. I think they are super underrated and had they came out yrs earlier they'd be as big as Motley Crue and others. Also can we call it by it's real name the Genre Sleaze/Glam. Hair Metal was meant as a derogatory term by the people who hated the genre. 

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