Huh. Looks like he could have thrown right away if he was that down for it.
Yeah, both of these really.#1 - People who try to provoke famous people just to bring them down, those people suck.
#2 - Famous people have to be aware of #1 and walk away from stuff where normal people would take exception
Me too!I thought it was a reference to the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings.
Even if someone found it offensive, it’s nowhere near the same ballpark as the N-word."Fredo" is not an Italian-American insult. Anybody who says otherwise is gaslighting you.
+1. Every. Damn. Thing.Even if someone found it offensive, it’s nowhere near the same ballpark as the N-word.
In fairness to Cuomo, he works in a world where nearly everything is offensive.
Meh, I disagree, he was playing, he didn't actually do anything. Now then, Buzz Aldrin was most definitely NOT playing.
Jeepers. That's something to think about, to say the least. He's lucky he beat assault charges and a lawsuit. One ought try not to do that, really, unless one has fear of being assaulted him or herself.Meh, I disagree, he was playing, he didn't actually do anything. Now then, Buzz Aldrin was most definitely NOT playing.
My position is it's a Middle Earth insult."Fredo" is not an Italian-American insult. Anybody who says otherwise is gaslighting you.
So...what kind of insult is it, and what does it even mean? I'm shuked."Fredo" is not an Italian-American insult. Anybody who says otherwise is gaslighting you.
It means he's a putz compared to his brother and father.So...what kind of insult is it, and what does it even mean? I'm shuked.
Godfather reference. He's the dumb brother.So...what kind of insult is it, and what does it even mean? I'm shuked.
and he's bangin cocktail waitresses two at a timeGodfather reference. He's the dumb brother.
This pretty much sums it up.Not a CC fan. antagonizer was a Dbag. Leave the guy alone. He’s with his family etc. I think it’s best to separate public persona from private.
agreed.Not a CC fan. antagonizer was a Dbag. Leave the guy alone. He’s with his family etc. I think it’s best to separate public persona from private.
There's a few of them that certainly have more authenticity than "Fredo." I'm not going to be the one to list them though.Isn't "Guido" the derogatory term?
Total aside, but I love reading your posts. Legit row is such a great turn of phrase.I have to think calling him the dumb brother while using an insult designed to play into heritage was indeed a bit of the ol' fightin' words doctrine coming into play, though it falls and fell short of the requirements to start a legit row.
Thanks, GB, and thanks for noticing. I was thinking of Conan O'Brien's boxing skits on SNL (that ran too long) and a mixture of boxing slang from newer slang to the old Irish. On my end -- and one good turn deserving another -- I appreciate your tone and tenor on the board. I find it wise and kind.Total aside, but I love reading your posts. Legit row is such a great turn of phrase.
Agree, but the difference is we only know one of them.Neither came off well there.
The civilian came off like an ##### for harassing Cuomo in public when he was with his family, and Cuomo came off like an angry rage-filled knucklehead who was ready to fight a guy in front of his family over a minor insult at worst (no one in their right mind thinks Fredo is on par with the n-word).
I'm always impressed with cultures that take a word that's supposed to be offensive and turn it into something they don't care if others use and use themselves. The Italians and Irish come to mind as the ones who do this best. I'm sure there are others.As someone with a very Italian last name and directly related to people who were stamped ***, I can say without a doubt that I have never thought Fredo was a slur. Guido or *** I kinda get, but again who cares? You’re that thin-skinned, you Guinea?
McBokonon said:Also, he said using "Fredo" on an Italian is like using the N-word on a black person.
Probably helps that no one has ever tried to buy or sell me.I'm always impressed with cultures that take a word that's supposed to be offensive and turn it into something they don't care if others use and use themselves. The Italians and Irish come to mind as the ones who do this best. I'm sure there are others.
I'm fairly sure most of the people in America can say that, too.Probably helps that no one has ever tried to buy or sell me.
I know CC went all in on the 'Italian Slur", but IMO, Fredo to him was more of the "your the looser/stupid sibling in an otherwise successful family" knock. Just so happens both families—Corleone and Cuomo—both happen to be very Italian.As someone with a very Italian last name and directly related to people who were stamped ***, I can say without a doubt that I have never thought Fredo was a slur. Guido or *** I kinda get, but again who cares? You’re that thin-skinned, you Guinea?