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The ***OFFICIAL*** 2019 Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

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21 minutes ago, Iceman03 said:

Switzer better not be on the team next week. I think his punt flub leading to a safety finally sealed his fate. I get it, he’s a nice guy and he’s been through a lot... you still gotta play. 

I still disagree.

The ball gets caught correctly almost every time.  
We see any number of flubs per week.  while we should address that now is not the time. We have no room for errors like that if he flubs

The return was bad but but The play action call on first down was the error.

 

 

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1 hour ago, infantsam said:

Play action from the 5 when you know they are blitzing was awful.  Luckily punting from the 20 instead of the back line or giving up 7 worked out.

HORRENDOUS.

we are still forgetting about the under-center formations.  well until that crap-tastic call to have the QB turn his back to the rush while in the endzone. so dumb.

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Love a 4 game win streak.  They need to win 4 of 4 or at least 3 of 4 over the next stretch.  They are all winnable.

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Somehow Cleveland gets the chance to determine our fate.  We should be favored both games but ......

I’ll bet on our D.  We already have mostly stopped the run and add constant pressure and ball hawking.  I’m ready to quote Bueller.

 

 

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Switzer re-injured his back last night and considering this is a short week he probably won’t be available on Thursday night.

 

 

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9 hours ago, fred_1_15301 said:

7 games left in the season (5 road and 2 home).  I think they'll be favored in all of them (Baltimore road game is week 17 where they'll likely be resting starters).  They should be able to get to 10 wins which will secure a playoff berth.  Buffalo still has road games in NE, Dallas and Pittsburgh and a home game against Baltimore.  The 2 wildcards should be Oakland and Pittsburgh.  

I'm not so sure. They still have to play the Texans, Rams, 49ers and Bills. They are on a roll, but those 4 games aren't easy. The Rams and Bills are the two weakest teams, but the Ravens face them on the road. I think the Steelers probably lose at least 1 more game before week 17, but week 17 could be for the AFC North. 

I'm worried about the 2 Browns games in a 3 week span. I'm hopeful that our D can help us pull off some wins, but the browns have underperformed most of the year. If they're somehow able to play up to their talent, they could be formidable. 

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Since Minkah has become their free safety, the Steelers have allowed a QB rating under 10.0 on deep passes. That's the lowest, by far, in the NFL since week 3. In the two games before his arrival it was 141.7.  first reported by Aaron M. Sprecher AP

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9 minutes ago, Choke said:

Since Minkah has become their free safety, the Steelers have allowed a QB rating under 10.0 on deep passes. That's the lowest, by far, in the NFL since week 3. In the two games before his arrival it was 141.7.  first reported by Aaron M. Sprecher AP

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Yes.  The Minkah trade was not a good trade it was a GREAT trade.

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21 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Yes.  The Minkah trade was not a good trade it was a GREAT trade.

I never thought I'd say this about another Steeler's safety.. but his instincts and ball-hawking skills remind me of TP43.  

And as much as I've lost faith in Tomlin, particularly in making the right in-game adjustments and play calls, I'm very impressed with the quick turnaround this team's defense has made since Shazier went down.  They went from a team that looked completely lost on that side of the ball to arguably the best DEF in the NFL, and Tomlin definitely deserves credit for that.

And while the playoffs are now realistic, as a fan it's hard to get really excited as I don't see Rudolph getting us a playoff win in NE, or in the SB if we somehow get there.  No idea if Duck can be better but he seems to have the 'it' factor that Mason completely lacks.

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14 minutes ago, Buttonhook said:

And while the playoffs are now realistic, as a fan it's hard to get really excited as I don't see Rudolph getting us a playoff win in NE, or in the SB if we somehow get there.  No idea if Duck can be better but he seems to have the 'it' factor that Mason completely lacks.

I thought Mason played pretty well last night.   He needs to keep improving but he's doing enough to win and does a good job protecting the ball.   He only has 6 career starts so it is still way too soon to make a call on him IMO.   

On the other hand I don't get the love for Duck at all.  He did okay managing the one game he started (136-1-1) but did nothing that showed me he has an 'it' factor.

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17 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

I thought Mason played pretty well last night.   He needs to keep improving but he's doing enough to win and does a good job protecting the ball.   He only has 6 career starts so it is still way too soon to make a call on him IMO.   

On the other hand I don't get the love for Duck at all.  He did okay managing the one game he started (136-1-1) but did nothing that showed me he has an 'it' factor.

The backup quarterback in Pittsburgh ALWAYS has the "it" factor. I think first grade teachers drill that into their students before they get to teaching the alphabet.

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Rudolph played fine, did what he needed to do.  His teammates certainly didn't help him on that side of the ball.

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12 hours ago, Iceman03 said:

Switzer better not be on the team next week. I think his punt flub leading to a safety finally sealed his fate. I get it, he’s a nice guy and he’s been through a lot... you still gotta play. 

Who do you replace him with?  Eli Rogers?  Some other return specialist?

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Just now, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Who do you replace him with?  Eli Rogers?  Some other return specialist?

Who cares? A paper bag with a hand cutout taped to it stuck into the air. Why are there people defending Ryan Switzer? He’s had one punt return over 10 yds on the season. Why is this terrible player taking a roster spot? It’s outrageous. After Switzers backwards gaf Johnson took the next punt 14 yds which may be longer than any Switzer play this season that hasn’t been a kick return. 

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Switzer usually catches the ball.  So should anyone who makes it to the NFL.  But he's 5-foot nothing and about 120 soaking wet.  A mild breeze knocks him down.  He does nothing with the ball once he catches it.  

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Oh, and speaking of wasted roster space - why is Anthony Chickillo still on this team?  Even without the assault (yeah I know.  See: Ray Lewis) he's still horrible.  I have season tix and will occasionally catch myself watching him get beat on every play.  He almost never touches a skill player on the offense, but comes rushing in once the play is done (See: Ray Lewis again).  



 

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Pretty sure this team is going to the playoffs - could even contend for the AFC North but would have to sweep Cleveland and avoid the kind of late-season stumble in Arizona that often seems to happen to the Steelers out west. Buffalo is going to miss the playoffs, and I think Pittsburgh and Oakland take the Wild Cards. 

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It sounds like Switz and Chickillo miss Thursday night so.  Sorry but someone had to break the bad news.

On the plus side it sounds like Conner WILL be active Thursday

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The Steelers running game and commitment to it has let them down. Hopefully Conner will be ready to contribute this week. Seems like if they can play D and run the ball (especially in the redzone) they could win many of their remaining games. Rudolph is what he is, just need to put less on his plate.

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34 minutes ago, Frenchy Fuqua said:

The Steelers running game and commitment to it has let them down. Hopefully Conner will be ready to contribute this week. Seems like if they can play D and run the ball (especially in the redzone) they could win many of their remaining games. Rudolph is what he is, just need to put less on his plate.

The receivers and TEs need to play better too.

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Miami fan checking in, things have changed a lot and I did post when the trade for Fitz happened that I would not be shocked if the Steelers somehow end up with the better end of the deal...that guy had to help with Cooper Kupp yesterday or make it impossible for others to score. He ran one back vs Indy.

Gotta give the Steelers some real props to get themselves to 5-4 with No starting QB, lost their stud RB, traded their #1 Head case Wideout, they've managed to stabilize things a bit. 

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2 hours ago, Iceman03 said:

Who cares? A paper bag with a hand cutout taped to it stuck into the air. 

:lmao:

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1 hour ago, JoeSteeler said:

:lmao:

Yes I would like to see an NFL team actually employ this strategy some day

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The Steelers RBs behind Conner all stink. Edmunds seems to be unable to think for himself one iota when the play starts, he just makes a mad dash to wherever the presnap read was. There is often a gaping hole if he just cuts back, but he just runs into the arms of the defenders. The worst evidence of this was last week when Decastro completely shut down the left side of the line after pulling, and Edmunds ran straight into the middle for -1 instead of a walk-in touchdown. 

Samuels isn't much better. Late in the game when we have plenty of timeouts he is so often concerned with getting out of bounds that he does that instead of trying to pick up a first down, and we end up punting with plenty of time left. Also, he dances around too much and doesn't have the Lev burst to make up for the slow starts. I was high on him when he was working in tandem with Conner, but I don't think he's any kind of answer at RB. I would be surprised if we don't make a move at RB this offseason with one of our first 3 picks in the draft. At WR too. James Washington looks like he's trying to step up, and Diontae is starting to look good, but having two OK wrs behind Juju isn't enough, and we could really use a good punt returner that doesn't fumble it every third return (Diontae). 

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They just won two of the three toughest games remaining on their schedule.  If Baltimore has clinched in Week 17, that could end up a walk too.

There is no reason this team can't win 6 of their last 7.  

 

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I like Connor but we need an RB and a TE....

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25 minutes ago, belljr said:

I like Connor but we need an RB and a TE....

Conner is fine when healthy, but he often isn't.  I think they have decent TEs (not great mind you but decent).  The problem has been not utilizing them in the passing game much.

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23 hours ago, steelers1080 said:

The Steelers RBs behind Conner all stink. Edmunds seems to be unable to think for himself one iota when the play starts, he just makes a mad dash to wherever the presnap read was. There is often a gaping hole if he just cuts back, but he just runs into the arms of the defenders. The worst evidence of this was last week when Decastro completely shut down the left side of the line after pulling, and Edmunds ran straight into the middle for -1 instead of a walk-in touchdown. 

Samuels isn't much better. Late in the game when we have plenty of timeouts he is so often concerned with getting out of bounds that he does that instead of trying to pick up a first down, and we end up punting with plenty of time left. Also, he dances around too much and doesn't have the Lev burst to make up for the slow starts. I was high on him when he was working in tandem with Conner, but I don't think he's any kind of answer at RB. I would be surprised if we don't make a move at RB this offseason with one of our first 3 picks in the draft. At WR too. James Washington looks like he's trying to step up, and Diontae is starting to look good, but having two OK wrs behind Juju isn't enough, and we could really use a good punt returner that doesn't fumble it every third return (Diontae). 

Samuels is versatile but more of a jack-of-all-trades, master of none kind of guy.    I haven't seen enough of Brooks-James to know but he appears to be only marginally better than Edmunds and Edmund stinks.   I gotta think that Jay Ajayi or CJ Anderson would be huge improvements over those two stiffs. 

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Foster and Connor back might be just enough to eek out a win in Cleveland but Chubb and ######## 13 can make big plays at any time.  We’ll need another game where our mistakes don’t kill us which is freaking nerve racking.

Ill play the Pitt D because that makes it even worse :)

 

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4 hours ago, infantsam said:

Foster and Connor back might be just enough to eek out a win in Cleveland but Chubb and ######## 13 can make big plays at any time.  We’ll need another game where our mistakes don’t kill us which is freaking nerve racking.

Ill play the Pitt D because that makes it even worse :)

 

Chubb is a beast and worries me far more than anyone else on that offense.

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2 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

Chubb is a beast and worries me far more than anyone else on that offense.

Their O-line is pretty terrible though. If we can get pressure then we might be ok. 

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17 minutes ago, steelers1080 said:

Their O-line is pretty terrible though. If we can get pressure then we might be ok. 

Agreed.  I am hoping that Kitchens doesn't suddenly wake up and figure out they are a better running team than passing.

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Game prediction: The Steelers win the toss and defer. Bos is told to not put it through the endzone even though our coverage usually sucks and the Browns start with good field position. Odell has a big play on the first drive and Chubb has some good runs and the Browns go up 7-0. The Steelers get the ball and go 3 and out with two runs and a mediocre, incomplete pass. The Browns get the ball back and are moving until there's another Minkah-related turnover and the Steelers are left with good field position. We score a TD, probably on a James Conner run or a James Washington pass, it's going to be a good game for James'.

The halftime score ends up being 17-10 Steelers. The second half plays out as you'd expect. Probably another safety on Rudolph at some point, maybe a defensive TD caused by Miles Garrett. The Steelers D gets 2 more turnovers off Baker and Co. for 3 total. And the Steelers have the ball, up 7 or less with 5 minutes left. We're driving but then there's a set of downs where we run it into the line 3 times in a row for minimal gain and have to punt. The Browns are within 1 score with probably 3 minutes left at this point, and begin their drive. Some big play happens and it feels like all hope is lost, maybe a 30+ yard catch by OBJ or a run by Chubb. Then TJ Watt gets pressure on Baker and Minkah seals another game. 

Minkah vaults into DPOY and MVP conversations after dominating in prime time and the Steelers are 6-4. 

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Snell and Switzer officially out.  Haden did not practice due to illness.  Officially listed as Questionable for tomorrow night

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17 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

Snell and Switzer officially out.  Haden did not practice due to illness.  Officially listed as Questionable for tomorrow night

yikes Haden out will hurt big time! Any word on what his illness is?

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2 minutes ago, JoeSteeler said:

yikes Haden out will hurt big time! Any word on what his illness is?

No idea.  I'm guessing he has something like a cold or stomach flu and the Steelers asked him to stay home as a precaution.  Since he missed practice the Steelers must list him as questionable (there is no probable anymore).   I bet he will play tonight but I have nothing to base that on.

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Well Steelers fans you got what you wanted:   Ryan Switzer has been placed on IR.    Unfortunately so has Rosie Nix. :sadbanana:

WR Tevin Jones and LB Jayrone Elliot signed to the 53 man roster.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

  Unfortunately so has Rosie Nix. :sadbanana:

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9 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Well Steelers fans you got what you wanted:   Ryan Switzer has been placed on IR.    Unfortunately so has Rosie Nix. :sadbanana:

WR Tevin Jones and LB Jayrone Elliot signed to the 53 man roster.

 

 

What are we missing that they like Elliot now instead of Skipper who made the initial 53 man?  He is there for the taking off Giants practice squad. 
 

And why not promote Sutton Smith who can play fullback?  No Nix hurts. 
 

and what about Eli Rogers?

 

I shouldn’t question though. The moves made so far all have paid off. 

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1 minute ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

What are we missing that they like Elliot now instead of Skipper who made the initial 53 man?  He is there for the taking off Giants practice squad. 
 

And why not promote Sutton Smith who can play fullback?  No Nix hurts. 
 

and what about Eli Rogers?

 

I shouldn’t question though. The moves made so far all have paid off. 

I'm not sure what the deal is with Smith -- I assume he just isn't ready or maybe they don't feel he is needed tonight.

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2 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

Well Steelers fans you got what you wanted:   Ryan Switzer has been placed on IR.    Unfortunately so has Rosie Nix. :sadbanana:

WR Tevin Jones and LB Jayrone Elliot signed to the 53 man roster.

 

 

Nix to IR really hurts Conner IMO

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3 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

I'm not sure what the deal is with Smith -- I assume he just isn't ready or maybe they don't feel he is needed tonight.

They just resigned him back to practice squad ...after releasing him last week.

Not sure if that makes a difference

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There are plenty of excuses for Mason Rudolph given the injuries and offensive line but he just looks so awful.  I can't recall a starting QB for the Steelers who looked this bad.  

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Well whatever fantasy people had for sneaking into the playoffs as a #6 should be gone after tonight.  Expecting 9 wins is enough is going to be hard.  But I can see them going 8-8 which given the mess this team was a month and half ago I will more than accept it.  

 Rudolph is okay but he is definitely not the future.  

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I knew Rudolph the red nose was not good. Had no idea he is this not good. Sorry, Stiller frens. I am sure you will find a promising rookie QB next draft.

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Just now, hammerva said:

Well whatever fantasy people had for sneaking into the playoffs as a #6 should be gone after tonight.  Expecting 9 wins is enough is going to be hard.  But I can see them going 8-8 which given the mess this team was a month and half ago I will more than accept it.  

 Rudolph is okay but he is definitely not the future.  

In all seriousness, how can you even say that "Rudolph is okay"?  He looks to be below average in just about every single trait that you would judge a QB by.  

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We were Schobert'ed!   :football:

Guy is a FA next year.

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