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If he is healthy all year, I don't see how he doesn't finish in the top 5 among RBs. I was shocked when he fell to 2.9 in our redraft and paired him with Kamara and have been ecstatic with how that worked out. The funny thing was, I was taking Evans at 19, but he went at 18 to a guy who took him just because he knows I love Evans. 

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2 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

That said, it’s been 3 games. Let’s see how durable he is. one never knows when the bug will bite. 

We don’t know that for any player in the NFL.

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1 minute ago, Dr. Octopus said:

We don’t know that for any player in the NFL.

Of course we don’t. But we do know Cook’s been hurt a few times. :shrug:

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Just now, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Of course we don’t. But we do know Cook’s been hurt a few times. :shrug:

Go back a few pages. I’ve already posted my rant on that line of thinking. 

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1 minute ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Go back a few pages. I’ve already posted my rant on that line of thinking. 

I agree with much of what you said there.

all I meant is that it’s only game 3, and the reason Cook was a pre-draft bargain was the perception that he’s injury prone.

so if he gets hurt, you just know there’ll be people coming out of the woodwork saying “see, I told you he was gonna get hurt.”

I am not one of those people. I’m just sayin that it’s gonna happen if he does. 

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1 hour ago, Ilov80s said:

The reason they succeed or fail I think has to factor into the evaluation. With Dalvin, the process hinged on how reliable is a small RB who has such a lengthy track record of injury?  

That's always part of the process.  Every player has good points and every player has warts.

In cook's case we were mostly talking about how great the system is, how he's clearly the number one back in that system, and how he's not only a good runner but good breceiver and goal line guy.

But the injury concern is real. It isn't fair to judge after 3 weeks and say this guy was a great pick or bad pick if you were worried about injury, because the people who liked him might be right and the people who didn't like him might still be proven right.  So how do you judge the pick right now? 

For me, the answer is that you'll still have the sword of damocles having over you until week 16 no matter how good he looks.  And i don't think you should judge the pick on whether cook stays healthy or gets hurt,  and if he doesget hurt, which week and for how long.  That's results oriented thinking. 

What i want is a guy whose value is really high when he plays. So when you compare him with another risky pick, Gurley, the question was who would be more valuable when they played.  And it seems like the early answer is cook, because his coach wants to use him for everything while Gurley's wants to limit his touches.  If they both have injury concerns, give me the guy who will score more. 

I think many of us thought Henderson would get carries over brown, but there was some debate on that.  When cook's backup played well this preseason and caught some passes. it really increased cook's value to me as a guy whose backup might be able to plug in for a few weeks or even the rest of the season and not completely blow the pick.

I traded Mixon for cook prior to the season back when Mixon was a late first and cook a mid-late second.  Mixon had a higher floor, but he had risk too, between the character concerns that made him slip in the draft, the Bengals drafting two new rookies, and a new head coach and offensive system.  But his ceiling seemed lower - for him to improve, he didn't need more volume, and he didn't need to play better individually, he just needed more goal line opportunities and surrounding talent.  When the o line started to show issues, I wanted off that bus.  I might be wrong in the long run but that's how i saw it.  

Comparing cook with Elliott, when it seemed increasingly likely Elliott would miss time at the start of the season and cook was a risk to last to the end, and Elliott had more track history but might be an injury risk due to the holdout, it just seemed like Elliott was the clear pick.  

The one I don't think you can judge is Conner. He might lose that job.  That's obviously a concern.  But he's been dinged and Ben getting hurt - it's not an apples to apples comparison.  

So i think looking at the process, we should have liked cook a lot this off season.  Maybe not 1.5, but like i said at the time, i didn't think a lot separated those picks. 

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I got Cook at 2.9 in a 10 team league. need to grab Mattison off of waivers, starting to get nervous that the injury is about to happen, and AM has looked like a phenom in bit parts so far.

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15 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

He didn't follow his gut and did not getting him though.

But he got the respect of the "draft day value" crowd - so he's got that going for him.

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I had an opportunity to grab Cook in two leagues where I did not, but other players fell far where I zigged instead of zagged and got Kelce at 20, and Conner at 19. Cook went 21 and 20 in those leagues, and I was hemming and hawing about picking him the whole time. At least I have him in most leagues, where he is dragging a mediocre team to competitiveness. Wish I took him instead of Conner/Kelce. Ironically in both leagues where I have the 5th pick I got him (in the second round), thread title correct.

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Dalvin Cook got me 31 points Thursday night.  PPR and we get bonuses for 100 yard games.  I paid up for him and outbid everyone in an auction league to get him.  I said early on in this thread take Dalvin Cook at 1.5

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2 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

But he got the respect of the "draft day value" crowd - so he's got that going for him.

is he the best RB in the league right now when you combine talent with opportunity?   

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21 minutes ago, DocHolliday said:

is he the best RB in the league right now when you combine talent with opportunity?   

this is still CMC, but Cook is very close at this point in the season.

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Yeah, I let peer pressure get to me. I ended up with Hopkins / Chubb, so not exactly horrible by any means. I just thought the stars were aligned for Cook this year. 

I did end up getting him on an auction league so feeling pretty good about that. 

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1 hour ago, Pigskin Fanatic said:

this is still CMC, but Cook is very close at this point in the season.

Like GroveDiesel opined the other day, it's McCaffrey then Cook then a sharp drop off

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3 hours ago, N Zone said:

Dalvin Cook got me 31 points Thursday night.  PPR and we get bonuses for 100 yard games.  I paid up for him and outbid everyone in an auction league to get him.  I said early on in this thread take Dalvin Cook at 1.5

I think if there's one overriding takeaway from this thread, it should be that every single fantasy league should be using an auction draft. If you feel like Dalvin Cook is worth 1.05 value, and everyone else in your league values him at 2.01 value, you can get him for $1 more than 2.01 value. Only 1 of my 4 leagues is an auction so I'm as guilty as the next guy , but in the year 2019 there's really no excuse for snake drafts still being the default.

Seriously: make noise in your leagues this off-season. Agitate about it. Make it happen. You'll thank me. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

I think if there's one overriding takeaway from this thread, it should be that every single fantasy league should be using an auction draft. If you feel like Dalvin Cook is worth 1.05 value, and everyone else in your league values him at 2.01 value, you can get him for $1 more than 2.01 value. Only 1 of my 4 leagues is an auction so I'm as guilty as the next guy , but in the year 2019 there's really no excuse for snake drafts still being the default.

Seriously: make noise in your leagues this off-season. Agitate about it. Make it happen. You'll thank me. 

I think I'd love to start auction drafting. One of my teams has Godwin, Robinson, Jacobs, and Waller, all of whom I got in the fourth round or later. That's not a back pat, that's something where if you spend a lot of time on these sites, you're not unfamiliar with these guys nor are you overvaluing if you spent a decent amount of auction bucks on them instead of having some guy just pick their name off of a list in snake. Then again, I prolly would have overspent or something. No discipline. But the thought you offer is intriguing and relevant to this discussion.

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1 hour ago, Who am I? said:

Yeah, I let peer pressure get to me. I ended up with Hopkins / Chubb, so not exactly horrible by any means. I just thought the stars were aligned for Cook this year. 

I did end up getting him on an auction league so feeling pretty good about that. 

So after all this you didn’t even take him? 
 

:disappointed:

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10 hours ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

I think if there's one overriding takeaway from this thread, it should be that every single fantasy league should be using an auction draft. If you feel like Dalvin Cook is worth 1.05 value, and everyone else in your league values him at 2.01 value, you can get him for $1 more than 2.01 value. Only 1 of my 4 leagues is an auction so I'm as guilty as the next guy , but in the year 2019 there's really no excuse for snake drafts still being the default.

Seriously: make noise in your leagues this off-season. Agitate about it. Make it happen. You'll thank me. 

Awesome spot on post ! Both my redrafts are auction !

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