leftcoastheel
Footballguy
slim to none IMO. I took him at the end of one draft and immediately regretted it. likely dropping him at the first waiver this Friday.
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2019 RB Lotto Ticket Rankings (3 Viewers)
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Snorkelson
Footballguy
No he’s not passing KJ, but if KJ goes down he at least splits work and had some big play ability. Curious to see how many touches he earns.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I wasn’t that impressed with him in college. They subbed him out on passing downs because his pass pro blows and he was an underutilized receiver (29 catches in four years, high was 16 as a sophomore.) As a runner he’s a burner who mostly wants to take it outside; doesn’t really have great agility or sick moves. He just continually beats everybody to the edge because he can really fly.
If there’s an opportunity he’ll def be in a split IMO. Zenner did well last year & added 14 pounds of muscle in the off-season. CJA is fatter than most dads but he can still play. Both offer an inside game that Ty never developed. And it’s not just a size thing, lots of small backs become adept at running interior lanes.
Elevencents
Footballguy
Ryquell Armstead - JAX
5’11 220lbs. Was top ten in the nation in yards and touchdowns. He’s a bruiser and even says himself that he loves to run angry. We all know Fournette’s not the epitome of health, so his backup has to be one of the first people you think of. Being a power back, he’s a great standalone if he’s asked to man up.
5’11 220lbs. Was top ten in the nation in yards and touchdowns. He’s a bruiser and even says himself that he loves to run angry. We all know Fournette’s not the epitome of health, so his backup has to be one of the first people you think of. Being a power back, he’s a great standalone if he’s asked to man up.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I took more lotto tickets today than I’ve ever had in a draft.
Singletary, Thompson, Latavius Murray, Dion Lewis, & Ronald Jones
one of those guys has to hit, right?
Singletary, Thompson, Latavius Murray, Dion Lewis, & Ronald Jones
one of those guys has to hit, right?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
Ty Montgomery
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I've realized I like getting four starting, producing backs then just go high upside. Some leagues let you only grab a certain number of a position. I'll take four starters, and four lotto tickets.I took more lotto tickets today than I’ve ever had in a draft.
Singletary, Thompson, Latavius Murray, Dion Lewis, & Ronald Jones
one of those guys has to hit, right?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Since I went WR/WR/WR from 8 my starters are lottery-Ish too in Carson / Montgomery.
i like their upside but they’re hardly blue-chippers.
until one of my lottery tickets hits I’ll probably be running out Lockett at flex.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Guice or Coutee for meSince I went WR/WR/WR from 8 my starters are lottery-Ish too in Carson / Montgomery.
i like their upside but they’re hardly blue-chippers.
until one of my lottery tickets hits I’ll probably be running out Lockett at flex.
at least until we get some visibility on the 4 rookie RBs I drafted. Full disclosure, we start 8 offensive players (QWWWRRTF) so the last starter is weak on most teams.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’m out on Ty Johnson, need a better option for WK 1 DST (Eagles v WAS.) As a Lions fan obviously I’ll be watching closely. 0% owned and off most managers radars so it should be easy to get him back if he shows a PPR floor.
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steelers1080
Footballguy
I just picked up Damarea Crockett (Sp?) from Houston. It should be somewhat easy between now and Week 1 to find out if he's got a shot at the starting role or if they're going to pick some vet up to start. If they roll with Crockett I'll keep him, and if not he's an easy cut.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
How are these the options, and duke is nothing but a 3rd down back? Duke is the man, Crockett will get some work and culture some tds.
If they drafted someone in the 3rd rd they’d be a highly regarded back worth considering, but since they shipped a 3rd for Duke they going to sign some cast off to carry the load.
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Casting Couch
Footballguy
Gus Johnson put up some nice numbers last season. Should he be somewhere on the list ?
steelers1080
Footballguy
They could give Duke more work, but he's not on my Waiver Wire. Also, he can't stay healthy. He's had a hamstring issue so far this offseason and usually those linger. He might be great, but not if he can't get on the field.Snorkelson said:
EBF
Footballguy
I have to disagree. I think there's a chance that Crockett is the best back on the roster, but I can imagine it taking half a season for him to plant his flag and take over the starting position. I've been following the situation because I have him in a couple dynasty leagues and he's been running behind some of the other options. The vibe I get is that he's a talented guy that they don't completely trust yet. They may play it safe out of the gate and lean on Duke since he's the veteran.steelers1080 said:
Come week 7 or 8, if Duke isn't working then the picture could be very different, but I think Crockett may require some patience. Unless he gets cut, I don't think his role is going to be clearly and permanently defined after one week.
socrates
Footballguy
I agree. It may take an injury or lack of production from Duke to thrust Crockett into a starting role. Perhaps we will see a gradual transition. Perhaps it never happens. We could gain some clarity on this early if (1) Crockett does not make the team; (2) Houston trades for/signs a RB of some significance; or (3) Duke comes out of the gate and looks great. Otherwise, this is a situation that may require some patience for dynasty owners.
This is not a good o-line, so you have to factor that in to Crockett's potential value, but aside from the o-line, this is as good a situation as Crockett could expect to be in. If he makes the roster, I would hang onto him and allow this play out.
socrates
Footballguy
I rate Anderson higher (he is up a tier for me, as is Thompson up a tier from where you list him, imo), but I think Crockett would reasonably fit in the tier of Armstead/Snell/Ty Johnson
dmac37
Footballguy
Most rookie drafts are over but some dynasty leagues will have blind bid FAAB free agent bidding this week before the season starts. Anyone want to take a stab at blind bid FAAB % some of these RB's will command. For reference, these are the ones available in our league:
Crokett
Hilliard
Ty Johnson
Brian Hill
Ogunbowale
Higdon
Ollison
Ozigbo
Boone
Alf Morris
Crokett
Hilliard
Ty Johnson
Brian Hill
Ogunbowale
Higdon
Ollison
Ozigbo
Boone
Alf Morris
TZMarkie
Footballguy
Glad to see this thread fired up again....and also still glad I'm still quoted from back in the '16 thread. 
Which I still stand behind how I tried to look at it. (If you are going to take a fantasy lottery ticket, try and get one that may pay off like gangbusters)
To chuck in a bit of an opinion, as of the evening of 8-26 (with multiple drafts coming in the next 7-8 days) here are some of the ones I am highest on, AT THIS POINT.
JUSTIN JACKSON - While not exactly flying under everyone's radar because of MELVIN GORDON , it seems as though he may well turn out to the the steal of the drafts. ECKELER , looks to be the slightly upper piece of what looks like it may be a full blown RBBC, but Jackson is far cheaper. I also have my injury concerns about Eckeler, as he isn't the biggest back, and he has been "nicked up" at times. (Didn't he have a neck issue at one time that was originally viewed as relatively serious??? Can't really remember)
The Chargers should have a solid offense, even without Gordon, but I'll take the cheaper/bigger piece here in Jackson.
JUSTICE HILL - This guy has been my one go-to lottery ticket all off season. He is about as electric as they come at times, and speed is only part of his game. The main knock here is MARK INGRAM sits squarely atop the depth chart in front of him. He is going at roughly 12.02 on FFC. The crazy thing about this is, I can't be the only one that sees this clear path to a possible big production scenario. I know Kenneth Dixon is lurking, but how many seasons have we been talking about him, and his eventual injuries...?
In what should be one of the heaviest run heavy offenses in the league, sign me up as looking to invest in what might be the best lottery ticket scenario you could ask for.
JAYLEN SAMUELS - You should notice a pattern after these guys I list, they are mostly on what should be strong offenses. Samuels is no different. This guy can do it all, and he looked great in spots last season. Hell, they can even put him out wide. Most JAMES CONNER fans who have watched him a lot, notice he doesn't seem to be a great runner. The workload and pass work is bread and butter in Pittsburgh, and whomever they slot in at RB seems to get a fair chunk of it. Samuels can do that too.
One more scenario where if the main guys goes down, people will rush to the wire to acquire this guy. I'd prefer to "beat them to the punch", then they can tell me later in the season how "lucky I am" because I had this guy rostered. Just because your neighbor is asleep, doesn't mean YOU have to be.
JAMAAL WILLIAMS - Another apparently strong offense, Green Bay RBs should always have value. True, in the past you had guys like big EDDIE LACY who eventually turned out to be a bust. But any back on an Aaron Rodgers led team shouldn't be ignored. I think we all know that AARON JONES is the more talented back here but last I checked, Williams was going largely undrafted, or late round 14 and beyond. So he is essentially free. Not really in love with the talent here, but on situation alone (and possible opportunity) he is on my radar.
ALEXANDER MATTISON - Admittedly I know less about this guy, than the others on my list. But there is one glaring thing that should be staring everyone in the face, thats DALVIN COOK and his "injury concerns". That coupled with the possibility of a sizeable workload in what should be a good offense, makes me think him going at roughly 11.06 per FFC, is a tad criminal. No matter how much you do, or do NOT like the player, this situation seems to be one we all would want shares of if Cook goes down.
The big Dalvin Cook preseason run, has hopefully took all the attention off Mattison.
BONUS PICK - DAMAREA CROCKETT - I fully expect The Texans to add someone here soon, but I am watching this one for the next week or so.
Never like forecasting injury, but its part of our game, we have to keep these things in the back of our minds.
TZM
Which I still stand behind how I tried to look at it. (If you are going to take a fantasy lottery ticket, try and get one that may pay off like gangbusters)
To chuck in a bit of an opinion, as of the evening of 8-26 (with multiple drafts coming in the next 7-8 days) here are some of the ones I am highest on, AT THIS POINT.
JUSTIN JACKSON - While not exactly flying under everyone's radar because of MELVIN GORDON , it seems as though he may well turn out to the the steal of the drafts. ECKELER , looks to be the slightly upper piece of what looks like it may be a full blown RBBC, but Jackson is far cheaper. I also have my injury concerns about Eckeler, as he isn't the biggest back, and he has been "nicked up" at times. (Didn't he have a neck issue at one time that was originally viewed as relatively serious??? Can't really remember)
The Chargers should have a solid offense, even without Gordon, but I'll take the cheaper/bigger piece here in Jackson.
JUSTICE HILL - This guy has been my one go-to lottery ticket all off season. He is about as electric as they come at times, and speed is only part of his game. The main knock here is MARK INGRAM sits squarely atop the depth chart in front of him. He is going at roughly 12.02 on FFC. The crazy thing about this is, I can't be the only one that sees this clear path to a possible big production scenario. I know Kenneth Dixon is lurking, but how many seasons have we been talking about him, and his eventual injuries...?
In what should be one of the heaviest run heavy offenses in the league, sign me up as looking to invest in what might be the best lottery ticket scenario you could ask for.
JAYLEN SAMUELS - You should notice a pattern after these guys I list, they are mostly on what should be strong offenses. Samuels is no different. This guy can do it all, and he looked great in spots last season. Hell, they can even put him out wide. Most JAMES CONNER fans who have watched him a lot, notice he doesn't seem to be a great runner. The workload and pass work is bread and butter in Pittsburgh, and whomever they slot in at RB seems to get a fair chunk of it. Samuels can do that too.
One more scenario where if the main guys goes down, people will rush to the wire to acquire this guy. I'd prefer to "beat them to the punch", then they can tell me later in the season how "lucky I am" because I had this guy rostered. Just because your neighbor is asleep, doesn't mean YOU have to be.
JAMAAL WILLIAMS - Another apparently strong offense, Green Bay RBs should always have value. True, in the past you had guys like big EDDIE LACY who eventually turned out to be a bust. But any back on an Aaron Rodgers led team shouldn't be ignored. I think we all know that AARON JONES is the more talented back here but last I checked, Williams was going largely undrafted, or late round 14 and beyond. So he is essentially free. Not really in love with the talent here, but on situation alone (and possible opportunity) he is on my radar.
ALEXANDER MATTISON - Admittedly I know less about this guy, than the others on my list. But there is one glaring thing that should be staring everyone in the face, thats DALVIN COOK and his "injury concerns". That coupled with the possibility of a sizeable workload in what should be a good offense, makes me think him going at roughly 11.06 per FFC, is a tad criminal. No matter how much you do, or do NOT like the player, this situation seems to be one we all would want shares of if Cook goes down.
The big Dalvin Cook preseason run, has hopefully took all the attention off Mattison.
BONUS PICK - DAMAREA CROCKETT - I fully expect The Texans to add someone here soon, but I am watching this one for the next week or so.
Never like forecasting injury, but its part of our game, we have to keep these things in the back of our minds.
TZM
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I've been picking up shares of Justice Hill in every single league I'm in; dynasty and redraft.
I know it's been said before but there is a very real possibility that Hill plays the Kamara roll in Baltimore this year.
No other RB on the Ravens has Justice's skill set or explosiveness and he's going to force the Ravens to give him touches and design plays with him in mind.
He has been briefly discussed in this thread already. I don't think Murray is by any means a great back but he is in an ideal situation with one of the best rushing offense in the NFL and I doubt they want to run Kamara to the ground I think he will be a solid flex play unless there is an injury to Kamara. Brees is also older and doesn't throw as much.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Nor gonna argue with that at all. However, he has developed some degree of chemistry with Winston as a check-down back, his usage in the receiving game increasing every year, and was 60th percentile (i.e. above average) in reception points among RBs with more than 50 fantasy points (kudos FBG for this stat!).Dr. Dan said:
Door is definitely open to Ogunbowale stepping in to take those receptions away, as at this point I doubt RoJo is a guy that threatens Barber for either carries or catches. As a lottery ticket, Ogunbowale makes sense, but I am not sure I am seeing his utility for a fantasy team unless Barber/Jones goes down.
I am not sure we can take things like this as a pure sign of pecking order. It's a great directional signal, but Williams may have just gotten those carries as the staff wanted to see how he fared in that down/distance situation, as opposed to being above Thompson in pecking order.dahabi said:
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I would agree. I guess lotto ticket isnt a great term for him. If he can grab the pass catching role he can have Nyheim Hines value IMO. I did read somewhere that if Barber was ineffective they could cut him midseason, which sounds ridiculous to me mid season
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Surprised this guy isnt mentioned yet, especially since everyone else has on this team.
Assuming he makes the roster, Devine Ozigbo could have lotto ticket status.
Latavius Murray has a pretty lengthy injury history. I wouldnt expect him to play a complete season. Ozigbo is similar to Murray in terms of the role they would be expected to play in the NO offense (The "Ingram role").
Assuming Ozigbo makes the team, which seems like he may, he has lotto ticket status IMO
Assuming he makes the roster, Devine Ozigbo could have lotto ticket status.
Latavius Murray has a pretty lengthy injury history. I wouldnt expect him to play a complete season. Ozigbo is similar to Murray in terms of the role they would be expected to play in the NO offense (The "Ingram role").
Assuming Ozigbo makes the team, which seems like he may, he has lotto ticket status IMO
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I think Miami saw enough out of ballage to know they need Drake.
And with Drake being hurt I think they no they need to keep Ballage.
if they send either to HOU, I can’t imagine either of them being a better option than Duke Johnson.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
hamsterdam
Footballguy
Judging by the snapcount of the RBs when Stafford was in this past preseason game, it looks like CJ Anderson is the backup to own. If he starts getting goal line looks, he could even have stand alone value in deep leagues.
Kerryon Johnson got the first crack last night, but C.J. Anderson was on the field for 23 of Matthew Stafford's 33 snaps. Johnson only played 8 snaps. Other notable snap counts w/ Stafford on the field: Kenny Golladay: 32 Marvin Jones: 32
Preseason Week 3 Offensive Report (1/4) Detroit used this game as their dress rehearsal. Majority of starters played. Matt Stafford played the first five drives. Starters breakdown: Snaps - 33 11 Personnel - 16 12 & 22 - 10 21 & 20 - 6 01 - 1
Preseason Week 3 (2/4) 1st Drive: K Johnson (played 3rd & six) 2nd Drive: C Anderson 3rd Drive: Split KJ and CJ 4th Drive: Kerryon out… likely protecting. CJ in 5th Drive: CJ; Ty Johnson 4th & 3 catch for a TD KJ worth a third, but going to share even w/ Riddick gone
Kerryon Johnson got the first crack last night, but C.J. Anderson was on the field for 23 of Matthew Stafford's 33 snaps. Johnson only played 8 snaps. Other notable snap counts w/ Stafford on the field: Kenny Golladay: 32 Marvin Jones: 32
Preseason Week 3 Offensive Report (1/4) Detroit used this game as their dress rehearsal. Majority of starters played. Matt Stafford played the first five drives. Starters breakdown: Snaps - 33 11 Personnel - 16 12 & 22 - 10 21 & 20 - 6 01 - 1
Preseason Week 3 (2/4) 1st Drive: K Johnson (played 3rd & six) 2nd Drive: C Anderson 3rd Drive: Split KJ and CJ 4th Drive: Kerryon out… likely protecting. CJ in 5th Drive: CJ; Ty Johnson 4th & 3 catch for a TD KJ worth a third, but going to share even w/ Riddick gone
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TZMarkie
Footballguy
First draft of the year, and was lucky enough to get several lottery ticket RBs I had been watching.
Justin Jackson, Justice Hill, and Ryquell Armstead welcome aboard. (I have Ingram and Fournette, so it fit perfectly)
Didn't quite fall how I would have liked, but having 2-3 "LOTTO BACKS" I had been watching, not bad.
A couple more drafts later this week, and hopefully I will be able to snag a couple of the other guys I'm targeting.
QUICK EDIT - Just for information purposes, it should be known Alexander Mattison went in the mid-15th in our 12 teamer. He seems to be flying under the radar a bit.
TZM
Justin Jackson, Justice Hill, and Ryquell Armstead welcome aboard. (I have Ingram and Fournette, so it fit perfectly)
Didn't quite fall how I would have liked, but having 2-3 "LOTTO BACKS" I had been watching, not bad.
A couple more drafts later this week, and hopefully I will be able to snag a couple of the other guys I'm targeting.
QUICK EDIT - Just for information purposes, it should be known Alexander Mattison went in the mid-15th in our 12 teamer. He seems to be flying under the radar a bit.
TZM
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
if Breida is a lotto ticket, he's going to deliver in spades.Looks like McKinnon is headed for IR - complications from the knee.
T. Coleman will play his own role, while Breida plays the D. Freeman role in shannys offense. he led the league in rushing for the first 8 games or so , last season. he could easily do that again.
I like the calls on Hill have to look at him more closely
this thread has been great keep it up!
T. Coleman will play his own role, while Breida plays the D. Freeman role in shannys offense. he led the league in rushing for the first 8 games or so , last season. he could easily do that again.
I like the calls on Hill have to look at him more closely
this thread has been great keep it up!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
James Conner says helloTanner9919 said:
irish eyes
Footballguy
Would you drop damien harris or justice hill to keep peyton barber in dynasty? I am faced with this decision, or is it very obvious.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I would prefer both of those guys easily to Barber, but would hate to cut him. Try to trade Barber. None of them should be on the wire
Interseptopus
Footballguy
good luck with that decision.
not sure it belongs in the lotto ticket rb thread
I would try the forum where these questions belong
rockaction
Footballguy
Ehhh, he wasn't even implicitly asking for help. Sometimes specifics help -- it gives people a gauge about what other people think of the player relatively.
3nOut
Footballguy
Why are you stalking me? This is the third time this week you commented on one of my posts in a snarky manner. Ether grow up, be nice, or go away please.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
jm192
Footballguy
3nOut
Footballguy
I'll give you that one. Got ahead of myself, thinking this was just a generic lottery ticket thread.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in The Assistant Coach forum.
