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2019 RB Lotto Ticket Rankings (2 Viewers)
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4th&inches
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While I’m sure most are aware already, Detroit released CJ Anderson, so it appears Ty Johnson is the clear handcuff to Kerryon
Long Ball Larry
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Long Ball Larry
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just to help organize the gigantic honorable mention list, I think that the top 4 out of the group are:
Rashaad Penny
Darwin Thompson
Ty Johnson
Ryquell Armstead
based on a combination of ability, team's ability or commitment to run, and proximity to the starting job.
wanted to make it top 5, but really couldn't parse the rest of the guys.
Rashaad Penny
Darwin Thompson
Ty Johnson
Ryquell Armstead
based on a combination of ability, team's ability or commitment to run, and proximity to the starting job.
wanted to make it top 5, but really couldn't parse the rest of the guys.
Long Ball Larry
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I think that Jordan Wilkins should probably be back on the radar. He is back from injury in a big way and seems pretty clearly the number 2 on a team with a good line.
Stompin' Tom Connors
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Lions added Paul Perkins. Not sure I'd call him a league winner as he never seemed to run well enough to keep the job when he was with the Giants, but maybe should be added as a very long shot ticket?
Interseptopus
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No one has mentioned Jeffery Wilson yet...
I guess the question is if he continues to get GL carries when Coleman returns, but Shanahan basically said without saying that Wilson is their GL back. That could be RB2 upside
I guess the question is if he continues to get GL carries when Coleman returns, but Shanahan basically said without saying that Wilson is their GL back. That could be RB2 upside
Long Ball Larry
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Don Hutson
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I pity the fantasy team that needs to add these 3 running backs.
Long Ball Larry
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to follow up on this, here's how I would rank the rest of the guys that I am interested in.
Injury away from being the lead guy and still can possibly provide value in the meantime
Jordan Wilkins
Justin Jackson
Really good offenses and all have flashed a fair amount of talent and increasing probability of more snaps
Darrel Williams
Raheem Mostert
Jeffery Wilson
We know who you are and you have value now but low ceiling
Adrian Peterson
Giovanni Bernard (maybe a case could be made that he can be moved up, but while he has a monster game every now and then, never really seems to be a consistent starter)
We know who you are and you don't have all that much value now, but could gain traction in the wake of injuries and shifting sands, especially in PPR
TJ Yeldon
Ty Montgomery
CJ Prosise
Interesting longshots that need a number of things to change, but in very good offenses and seem to have talent
Dexter Williams
Mike Boone
Darrell Henderson
Nobody else is that interesting to me, at least for the depth of leagues that I play in.
Long Ball Larry
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in case there is any confusion, he meant that he added them to the list in the first post.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
Ah, that makes way more sense. And none of them are horrible adds in running back heavy leagues. But I felt so bad for him thinking that he had added all 3 to a fantasy team.
zamboni
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I’ve added a handful of these guys to my roster. Unfortunately I don’t have the luxury of rolling out all bona fide 3-down backs in my deep league, so have to roll the dice and hopefully get lucky. And I know I’m not alone in this regard.
JohnnyU
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BobbyLayne
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The bottom of my roster with YTD FF points:
Justice Hill 9.28
Chase Edmonds 7.70
Ty Johnson* 7.70
Darrell Henderson 0.00
*cut once, but got him back after Guice went on IR
Also have Singletary but he’s already flashed enough I think he’ll have a role when healthy.
Hill has the most upside atm.
As a DJ owner I guess I should keep Chase.
Ty is fighting J.D. McKissic for scraps & not showing much so far, probably cut him again at some point.
Still can’t believe I wasted a 9th rounder on the Rams 3rd stringer.
WW: Pollard, Sproles, Gallman, Gus, CJP
Justice Hill 9.28
Chase Edmonds 7.70
Ty Johnson* 7.70
Darrell Henderson 0.00
*cut once, but got him back after Guice went on IR
Also have Singletary but he’s already flashed enough I think he’ll have a role when healthy.
Hill has the most upside atm.
As a DJ owner I guess I should keep Chase.
Ty is fighting J.D. McKissic for scraps & not showing much so far, probably cut him again at some point.
Still can’t believe I wasted a 9th rounder on the Rams 3rd stringer.
WW: Pollard, Sproles, Gallman, Gus, CJP
Teef
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Darrel Williams (RB-KC)
With Damien Williams and LeSean McCoy already banged up, Darrel Williams is interesting. He looked a lot better than I expected, especially in the passing game. Reid has mentioned in the past that he trusts him. Darwin Thompson is interesting, but his size limits him to a specialized role, not below. Damien has a history of injury issues. McCoy looks great, but how long can he stay on the field?
If McCoy and Damien can't sustain, I think it's Darrel Williams' backfield.
With Damien Williams and LeSean McCoy already banged up, Darrel Williams is interesting. He looked a lot better than I expected, especially in the passing game. Reid has mentioned in the past that he trusts him. Darwin Thompson is interesting, but his size limits him to a specialized role, not below. Damien has a history of injury issues. McCoy looks great, but how long can he stay on the field?
If McCoy and Damien can't sustain, I think it's Darrel Williams' backfield.
Long Ball Larry
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not totally sure what you are saying.
Are you referring to Ty Johnson, or is there some other reference that I am missing?
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Chaka
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Ilov80s
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Worth an add for sure but could be a clusterf with McCoy, Williams, Williams and Darwin all having big weeks and weeks where they disappear. It might be really tough to predict week to week.
Ilov80s
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He potentially will be released in 2 weeks when Tevin Coleman is healthy.On pace for 21 TDs.
Chaka
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Stompin' Tom Connors
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I am not so sure. He looks productive there on the stripe.
My question is, how often do the 9ers find themselves inside the 5 in their redzone trips and overall, what is their pass/run mix in the red zone, etc.
May help understand if Wilson has any long term value. Haven't seen 9ers games, but he seems slight at 6 foot 194 compared to traditionally successful stripe backs (240+ backs like Bettis, Crockett, Tolbert, Alstott, etc.).
That said, Lynch was 215, so it can come down to nose for end zone.
My feeling is that he's more of a dump to the waiver when Coleman is back (when is that again?) but happy to hear more if people think he might be an interesting buy/hold.
Long Ball Larry
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Stock Up/Stock Down among RBs the main post Tier 1, my next tier, and my tier below that (and Gallman!).
Stock Up
Wayne Gallman - clearly up a lot.
Gus Edwards - slightly up. pretty involved, despite Ingram.
Tony Pollard - slightly up. obviously needs zeke injury to be relevant, but running well with his opportunities.
Jamal Williams - up, outsnapped Jones.
Jaylen Samuels - stock up. Conner seems a bit vulnerable
Darrel Williams - up. If McCoy and Damien stay injured, could be a big deal.
Raheem Mostert - slightly up. clearly in the mix, running well. obviously depends on coleman coming back.
Jeffery Wilson - up. getting that goal line work.
TJ Yeldon - up. Singletary hampered.
CJ Prosise - up. Snap count up, Penny hampered, outsnapped Carson (though they were playing from behind of course)
Stock Neutral
Alexander Mattison - probably about the same. on the plus side, snaps up a bit this week and looks pretty good. on the minus, cook is destroying.
Justin Jackson - probably about the same. on the plus side, snaps up a bit this week and looks pretty good. on the minus, ekeler is doing great and gordon still looms.
Kareem Hunt - probably the same. will only be that relevant if Chubb gets hurt.
Ty Montgomery - same. meh.
Ryquell Armstead - same. always dependent on a Fournette injury.
Adrian Peterson - same. (and maybe should be moved out of the whole lotto ticket group)
Stock Down
Darwin Thompson - down. Bueller?
Ty Johnson - slightly down. was hoping he would make a but more of a splash.
Giovanni Bernard - down. Mixon seems fine.
Jordan Wilkins - down. Mack injury appears to be not much of an issue, though obviously should be monitored.
Dexter Williams - maybe slightly down, given how well those above him are playing.
Mike Boone - maybe slightly down, given how well those above him are playing.
John Kelly - way down. Should be out of the top tier.
Justice Hill - slightly down. snaps dropping, though he was never going to be that relevant without an injury.
Chase Edmonds - slightly down. still would hold in case of DJ injury, but not much of a role this week.
Rashaad Penny - stock down. can't make the club from the tub.
Stock Up
Wayne Gallman - clearly up a lot.
Gus Edwards - slightly up. pretty involved, despite Ingram.
Tony Pollard - slightly up. obviously needs zeke injury to be relevant, but running well with his opportunities.
Jamal Williams - up, outsnapped Jones.
Jaylen Samuels - stock up. Conner seems a bit vulnerable
Darrel Williams - up. If McCoy and Damien stay injured, could be a big deal.
Raheem Mostert - slightly up. clearly in the mix, running well. obviously depends on coleman coming back.
Jeffery Wilson - up. getting that goal line work.
TJ Yeldon - up. Singletary hampered.
CJ Prosise - up. Snap count up, Penny hampered, outsnapped Carson (though they were playing from behind of course)
Stock Neutral
Alexander Mattison - probably about the same. on the plus side, snaps up a bit this week and looks pretty good. on the minus, cook is destroying.
Justin Jackson - probably about the same. on the plus side, snaps up a bit this week and looks pretty good. on the minus, ekeler is doing great and gordon still looms.
Kareem Hunt - probably the same. will only be that relevant if Chubb gets hurt.
Ty Montgomery - same. meh.
Ryquell Armstead - same. always dependent on a Fournette injury.
Adrian Peterson - same. (and maybe should be moved out of the whole lotto ticket group)
Stock Down
Darwin Thompson - down. Bueller?
Ty Johnson - slightly down. was hoping he would make a but more of a splash.
Giovanni Bernard - down. Mixon seems fine.
Jordan Wilkins - down. Mack injury appears to be not much of an issue, though obviously should be monitored.
Dexter Williams - maybe slightly down, given how well those above him are playing.
Mike Boone - maybe slightly down, given how well those above him are playing.
John Kelly - way down. Should be out of the top tier.
Justice Hill - slightly down. snaps dropping, though he was never going to be that relevant without an injury.
Chase Edmonds - slightly down. still would hold in case of DJ injury, but not much of a role this week.
Rashaad Penny - stock down. can't make the club from the tub.
Long Ball Larry
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to be clear, I wasn't ranking those guys in any particular order. just commenting. for instance, I'd still rather have Penny over most of those guys, despite the slight downgrade (IMO), considering that he probably has better proximity/opportunity to major touches than a lot of guys.
I guess I would consider Jones in the same ballpark as Penny, though I am kind of sick of trying to figure out the TB running back situation.
On Arizona Twitters a few weeks ago, some fans were complaining that DJ was slow to hit the hole, putting some blame on him. He did looked great in open space on that TD reception vs the Giants. I think the biggest problem is the oline.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Where's Wayne Gallman on the list?
Dondante
Footballguy
Does Ito Smith need to be rostered? I don't see him anywhere on these lists. Certainly possible he's fallen off in past efforts. Curious how hold-worthy he is at this point. Bad O-line and Freeman looks healthy. I'm not even sure he'd be the guy if Freeman went down.
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jm192
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Logically, near the top. He'll probably be in line for more opportunity than a lot of these guys for the next several weeks--perhaps even 8 weeks. If you're getting a starting RB for 1/2 the season, your lottery ticket hit.
That said, I don't think a lot of Gallman. I won't be surprised if they add someone else a la CJ Anderson and Gallman winds up not seeing the expected touches. I'm adding him where I can for free, but I don't intend to use any major waiver priority or bid a large %
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4th&inches
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So, is it a consensus that Darrel Williams is now the priority over Darwin Thompson in KC?
I, like many others I believe have been stashing Darwin...who we thought hit the little-lotto this past week, but it looked like Crimson Grimace seems to prefer Darrel over Darwin. At least last week.
I, like many others I believe have been stashing Darwin...who we thought hit the little-lotto this past week, but it looked like Crimson Grimace seems to prefer Darrel over Darwin. At least last week.
Probably Darrel over Darwin since Andy Reid typically likes veteran backs who he can trust in pass protection. If you recall, this kept Kareem Hunt off the field during passing downs in his rookie year. Although, Waldman seems to think that Thompson isn't too bad in pass protection: https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2019/08/18/matt-waldmans-rsp-nfl-lens-rb-darwin-thompson-chiefs-pass-protection/. I'm staying away from the KC backfield this year--probably a bone-headed move, but I don't like the uncertainty. Plus, I have a piece of the offense in Kelce and Robinson...
Long Ball Larry
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i agree that the KC backfield is a bit of a headache and Darrel is far from a sure thing, but I am not sure what possible case can be made for Darwin over him at this point. Maybe if there are practice reports that Darwin is running with the 1s all week? Maybe Darrel was closer to being up to speed in a week with uncertain availability of the other guys? Seems like maybe a 2% case.
Don Hutson
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Waldman's opinion isn't relevant when Andy Reid made it clear that he believes that Darwin has work to do before he can be trusted in pass protection. And that's no criticism of Waldman. But he isn't the coach and he doesn't get to watch Darwin in practice every day.
Agreed. That was my main point. Just thought it relevant to link to Waldman's article. Here's a link to the Andy Reid's comment: https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41077254-4.
daylight
Footballguy
I appreciate the links and have added them to the list under Darwin's name.
daylight
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FWIW - I drafted Darwin Thompson and picked up Darrel Williams last week for free - and will hang on to both until the bitter end. Who knows? Bloom reiterated something he's been saying all September, that KC is one of those backfields where it doesn't matter who is back there - they produce.
4th&inches
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That's my issue as well. Currently my "End-of-bench" guys are: Darwin, Mostert, & Mattison.
- Mattison = no way I'm dropping with the injury risk Cook seems to have
- Mostert = looked ok this past week and I "think" might have some value, but could be my next drop
- Darwin = as mentioned above, looks to have been leap frogged by Darrel, but anyone in that KC offense has potentially high value
