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RB Jonathan Taylor, IND (1 Viewer)
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scott46984
Footballguy
Appears either Taylor or Deandre Swift from Georgia will be top rookie RB pick for fantasy next year, unless there are other I'm missing
There are so many good prospects; landing with a good team / organization will play a pivotal role in where players land in fantasy.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Perfect fit would be BALT. Ingram isn't getting any younger and he'll work well in an LJ led offense.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
He's really good at running into linebackers. About the best I've seen at it.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Puts the ball on the carpet a lot
JohnnyU
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I believe there are 4 RBs that either one of them could have that distinction. Swift, Taylor, Etienne, and Dobbins.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
That would never happen IMO. In what world, other than some Alabama homer, would that ever happen? Maybe if KC drafted him some might, but not me. While I said he belongs with the top 4, that doesn't mean I would take him 1.1 in any scenario. I like Harris, but taking him at 1.1 is not maximizing trading value. One could trade down, pick up a 2021 1st and still get Harris around the 7 or 8 slot, perhaps even lower.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Being in the mix of the top RBs doesn't mean someone should take him 1.1. Trade down and get him later in the 1st if you must and pick up a 2021 1st to boot. . It would be stupid to draft him 1.1 IMO. The top 6 players (in no particular order), should be Swift, Taylor, Etienne, Dobbins, Jeudy, and Lamb. It's easy to see Harris going in the 7-12 range of dynasty drafts.
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JackReacher
Footballguy
I keep seeing this or something similar posted. Jacobs was a stud runner for Bama on television every week. I can’t be the only one here who knew his game very well way before Jan 2019. If thats the case, it speaks to the fantasy group-think which should be avoided at all costs.
Back on topic, pre-landing, I have it: Jeudy, Etienne, Dobbins, Swift, JT, Najee, Lamb. Najee can certainly bump up if he ends up in plus situation.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
This makes as much sense as when you said a couple days ago that Stidham was being mocked as the 1.1.
Where are you getting this stuff?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Iit's been readily known Jacobs was the top RB in 2019. That certainly wasn't a secret.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I guess I'll eat some crow because I can't find a thread with much talk about him. So I'm sorry for calling you out.
But I distinctly remember talking about him versus Damien Harris when the Tide was making another championship run.
But I distinctly remember talking about him versus Damien Harris when the Tide was making another championship run.
JackReacher
Footballguy
Last comment on this I promise. I was referring to people saying Jacobs was an unknown. Not sure about this board in particular. I agree there was debate all spring who was RB1, although he was always there for me.
The battle for RB1 is much wider this go around. This is much more talented class. I prefer Etienne; seems like a man-child out there; huge ceiling. It’s close though and I remain open-minded. i have 1.1 in a couple leagues, and have Jeudy, Etienne on top of my list.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
"Unknown" may be pushing it with Jacobs. Most people probably at least knew who he was. But it's fair to say that anyone saying Jacobs was going to be a 1st round NFL pick or even the 1.1 fantasy pick at this time last year would have been laughed off the forum.
Jacobs was a very late riser as a fantasy draft stud.
Jacobs was a very late riser as a fantasy draft stud.
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
These kind of comments are humorous to me. All leagues VASTLY vary in regards to “value” and “rankings”. To say it is “stupid” to take a player at a certain spot is just saying it is stupid to not follow consensus rankings (which prove every year to be wrong in some way). You cannot always simply trade down and get the guy you want, at least not in my league. I would much rather “reach” on a guy that I believed in than trade down with the risk of not getting him. If Harris goes to KC he will be in the discussion of 1.1 IMO and I don’t see anything wrong with that. There is no Saquon in this draft and I think these guys are close enough in ranking that landing spot will be a factor.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Only stupid in the sense that you can get him later in the first and get extra pick(s) in the process. If Harris goes to KC you would have to probably make the decision of Harris over the other RBs. If he doesn't go to KC he will most certainly go after #6.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Testing is going to be very important. Given the quality of opponent I think it's much more difficult to compare him to the top 4 (Dobbins, not Harris). I'd like to slide him above Harris, but he needs a strong performance in Indy to validate that.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
ZWK
Footballguy
Hey, I resemble that remark. I also didn't draft Holyfield based on NFL draft results.
Heep
Footballguy
I think Akers will surprise a lot of you when you see him run behind an offensive line that can actually block. He was running behind guys like me and JohnnyU at FSU the last 2 years.
Heep
Footballguy
I didn't see anything on Jacobs until after the SEC championship game so I believe you...
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Josh Jacobs has been known to every DEVY owner and had already been on a roster in every DEVY league I'm in before last December. He was drafted in 2017 in The Deep End Dynasty League (a devy league), he was drafted in May of 2017. I'm also pretty sure dynasty owners knew who he was too. To say "unknown to these boards" is ridiculous. Hell, it's an insult. Do you honestly believe DEVY and most Dynasty owners aren't familiar with the top players and actually think you're the one who thought of Josh Jacobs? Jesus. I don't see you putting out a devy list for 2021 prior to anyone else. You seem to like to piggy back.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
I guess I'm going to follow this thread.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
cloppbeast
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Not to continue harping on the Jacobs thing, but while it's true that when he said "unknown" it was an exaggeration, it still captures his point fine. Namely that things change fast from now to the draft and Jacobs was still nowhere near the consensus 1.01 or top RB at this point last year, and that Najee Harris could still rise quite a bit as the draft approaches.JohnnyU said:
Here are a couple of threads from this time last year.
2019 Rookie RBs: 10% analysis 90% speculation (Jan 4th, 2019) - Jacobs is listed in the honorable mentions after the top 8 RBs are ranked. Not a single one of the 126 comments in the thread mention Jacobs.
[Rookie] Who are your top 10 prospects for 2019 right now? (Dec 23, 2018) - Six people submitted top 10 lists. Jacobs was unranked in three of them, ranked 10th in two of them, and ranked 3rd in one.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I guess where we disagree is that the rankings today will be the rankings after the draft is completed. I don’t see as big of a difference in a lot of these players (especially the RBs) and draft position/destination will play a big role for me determining who I would like to target.JohnnyU said:
az_prof
Footballguy
He didn't have his best game against OR, but there were several good runs called back by penalty. FWIW, I was at the game.
He will be a first round pick I think, late, but not as certain about his dynasty value as some other recent college players who accumulated big stats. Situation might matter more than for some highly touted players.
He will be a first round pick I think, late, but not as certain about his dynasty value as some other recent college players who accumulated big stats. Situation might matter more than for some highly touted players.
I-ROK
Footballguy
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I’m 100% certain that Xue was the 1st to introduce Jacob to the Board. EBF was one of the 1st I remember doing some type of Evaluation. This was 2016-2017 but DD’s post brought him back to life.
i remember because Xue loves to evaluate High schoolers especially incoming Freshman.
Tex
i remember because Xue loves to evaluate High schoolers especially incoming Freshman.
Tex
MAC_32
Footballguy
My biggest question about him is he never had a breakthrough performance against quality competition. I don't think he laid any eggs, but he didn't pop either. That makes it difficult to grade him round one, but since I dont have any questions beyond that (and you saw the skill within those games) I could be swayed. I'm firmly on the 1/2 fence with JT.
