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Wikipedia: Rotten to the core? (1 Viewer)

joffer said:
kind of afraid to click on that link.  is it as stupid as i'm anticipating?
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It’s interesting.  It’s pretty clear scooter didn’t even read the first page.

It’s largely about how organizations can influence editing (or engage in editing themselves) by financially supporting owners, editors, etc.

 
jonessed said:
It’s interesting.  It’s pretty clear scooter didn’t even read the first page.

It’s largely about how organizations can influence editing (or engage in editing themselves) by financially supporting owners, editors, etc.
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I know a lot of people think it’s the gospel but it’s clearly flawed to say the least.

 
jonessed said:
It’s interesting.  It’s pretty clear scooter didn’t even read the first page.

It’s largely about how organizations can influence editing (or engage in editing themselves) by financially supporting owners, editors, etc.
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I did click on the link. First thing I saw was a giant banner ad for a quack PhD who poses as a medical doctor and has made dubious claims over the years about supplements curing cancer and AIDS, and also produced a movie pushing the long-debunked theory that vaccines cause autism.

But other than that, great site.

 
parasaurolophus said:
I was afraid too so I googled it and found it on medium. 
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It’s in several places.

I’ve never understood the need to pretend you read something you didn’t.  It’s a weird combination of attention whoring and intellectual laziness. It’s a message board.  You get out what you put in.  If you aren’t interested just move on to the next topic.

 
[scooter] said:
I did click on the link. First thing I saw was a giant banner ad for a quack PhD who poses as a medical doctor and has made dubious claims over the years about supplements curing cancer and AIDS, and also produced a movie pushing the long-debunked theory that vaccines cause autism.

But other than that, great site.
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Sounds like a perfect fit for an imperfect site and largely biased place like wicked pedia

 
pinkham13 said:
[scooter] said:
I did click on the link. First thing I saw was a giant banner ad for a quack PhD who poses as a medical doctor and has made dubious claims over the years about supplements curing cancer and AIDS, and also produced a movie pushing the long-debunked theory that vaccines cause autism.

But other than that, great site.
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Sounds like a perfect fit for an imperfect site and largely biased place like wicked pedia
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How do you know that the claims of an imperfect site are accurate?

 
So in a nutshell Wikipedia was invented by an atheist who made his money in porn. His site is a left wing rag promoting the worst far left liberal thinking. Far from being any kind encyclopedia or sound source of information it’s propaganda at best.

 
pinkham13 said:
So in a nutshell Wikipedia was invented by an atheist who made his money in porn. His site is a left wing rag promoting the worst far left liberal thinking. Far from being any kind encyclopedia or sound source of information it’s propaganda at best.
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wow...you nailed it.  probably just have the mods lock this one up now?

 
I always loved this story about how the "wiki" concept got its name. This is cited in multiple places but I'll post the one from Wikipedia to honor our OP...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Wiki_Shuttle

The Wiki Wiki Shuttle is a fare-free shuttle bus system at the Honolulu International Airport. Shuttles run between 6:00 am and 10:00 pm local time, carrying people and baggage between the various terminals.

Video footage of the bus at the airport

In the Hawaiian language the word "wiki" means quick, and "wiki wiki" means very quick. The shuttle's name inspired Ward Cunningham to call his new website "WikiWikiWeb" in 1994.[1] Cunningham's site was designed to allow visitors to the site to edit its content, and this type of website came to be known as a "wiki", a prominent example of which is Wikipedia.
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I don’t think the author of the article is wrong. It’s just that her findings aren’t exactly as shocking as she likes to think.

An encyclopedia that anyone can edit and is posted for free online is susceptible to bias and corruption? Holy ####, stop the presses!

Of course Wikipedia is flawed. Anyone who’s surprised by that has WAY too much faith in humanity. I’ve definitely read entries that reek of PR.

There’s tons of good information on there though, and much of it is just basic factual stuff where bias doesn’t really come in to play. If you want to know about the geography of Turkey, where rhinoceroses live, or the stats of a random soccer player, it’s awesome. If you’re reading about politicians or large corporations you’ll want to be more cautious and check the source material.

 
Spartans Rule said:
I don’t think the author of the article is wrong. It’s just that her findings aren’t exactly as shocking as she likes to think.

An encyclopedia that anyone can edit and is posted for free online is susceptible to bias and corruption? Holy ####, stop the presses!

Of course Wikipedia is flawed. Anyone who’s surprised by that has WAY too much faith in humanity. I’ve definitely read entries that reek of PR.

There’s tons of good information on there though, and much of it is just basic factual stuff where bias doesn’t really come in to play. If you want to know about the geography of Turkey, where rhinoceroses live, or the stats of a random soccer player, it’s awesome. If you’re reading about politicians or large corporations you’ll want to be more cautious and check the source material.
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I agree with you mostly. However when you ban people from the site because you don’t like them you are no longer an encyclopedia. You are a publisher.

 
pinkham13 said:
So in a nutshell Wikipedia was invented by an atheist who made his money in porn. His site is a left wing rag promoting the worst far left liberal thinking. Far from being any kind encyclopedia or sound source of information it’s propaganda at best.
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I'm sure this is all sourced at Conservapedia's entry on Wikipedia. :lol:

 
pinkham13 said:
I agree with you mostly. However when you ban people from the site because you don’t like them you are no longer an encyclopedia. You are a publisher.
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Conservatives get banned from Wikipedia for the same reason that John Blutarski and Bozeman Bruiser get timeouts at Footballguys. Has nothing to do with whether they are "liked" or not.

 
an example of bias (per conservapedia):

Wikipedia's article on dinosaurs contains no mention of the strong evidence that they existed alongside humans and no mention of modern sightings of dinosaur-like creatures reported by the best of the public.[116] Additionally, for a period of time in 2016, the Wikipedia articles for Answers in Genesis and Creation Museum called the substantiated view "erroneous".[117][118] The wording was only removed from the articles by a bot when an image to which the wording was attached was deleted.[119][120]
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@pinkham13: please tell me your stance here.  do you believe Wikipedia is purposefully burying evidence that dinosaurs existed alongside humans?

 
Spartans Rule said:
I don’t think the author of the article is wrong. It’s just that her findings aren’t exactly as shocking as she likes to think.

An encyclopedia that anyone can edit and is posted for free online is susceptible to bias and corruption? Holy ####, stop the presses!

Of course Wikipedia is flawed. Anyone who’s surprised by that has WAY too much faith in humanity. I’ve definitely read entries that reek of PR.

There’s tons of good information on there though, and much of it is just basic factual stuff where bias doesn’t really come in to play. If you want to know about the geography of Turkey, where rhinoceroses live, or the stats of a random soccer player, it’s awesome. If you’re reading about politicians or large corporations you’ll want to be more cautious and check the source material.
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it probably implies in there somewhere that the smart rhinos live near the coasts.

 
pinkham13 said:
I didn’t watch game of thrones but way to contribute. 125,000 heartbeats will be snuffed out world wide today.
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You're the one pointing to people that believe that wikipedia is showing bias by not recognizing their non-factual claims about dinosaurs coexisting with humans.    An offshoot of these people argues that that is where dragon legends come from.   Do you not read the sources from which you argue?

 
pinkham13 said:
I didn’t watch game of thrones but way to contribute. 125,000 heartbeats will be snuffed out world wide today.
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Kind of depends on what you consider a heartbeat.  I consider it the action of a heart pumping blood, but that’s just me. 

 
the internet is going to be downfall of society...there are no ends to the ridiculous websites they can dig up to support their opinions

 
killface said:
the internet is going to be downfall of society...there are no ends to the ridiculous websites they can dig up to support their opinions
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In the words of Aviv Ovadya:

We are so screwed it’s beyond what most of us can imagine. We were utterly screwed a year and a half ago and we’re even more screwed now. And depending how far you look into the future it just gets worse.
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That quote is from three years ago. 

 
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