timschochet
Footballguy
Also: I am afraid Mr. Sondland is going to have to see some prison time, since it's apparent that he committed perjury last week.
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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (8 Viewers)
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
On page 7.... John Bolton, come on down!
I’m sure this is exactly the line of questioning the Democrats are taking. Mr Taylor, why do you think it was important to President Trump that the investigation was announced publicly? In your diplomatic experience are investigations into corruption typically announced publicly?
apalmer
Footballguy
I've already had that exact conversation with DN (and, I think HT). "Why should it be a problem if Biden wasn't doing anything wrong?"*
*Disclaimer: Not a precise quote because I'm too lazy to back through this thread and find it, so I'm paraphrasing.
timschochet
Footballguy
How many Republicans are privately just wishing right now that Trump would magically go away?
apalmer
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its like people who say “no disrespect but”...and then proceed to say something disrespectful.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
That opening statement is a very interesting read. Very damning for the President and Rudy. I really think anyone defending him at this point has blinders on. The order of witnesses has been very strategic. John Bolton should be interviewed soon.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Redwes25
Footballguy
This is pretty amazing especially the stuff about releasing add and opening up an investigation at the same time saying there is no quid pro quo. Clearly that is just a lie as I would like to point out to that just saying no quid pro quo doesn't mean there was no quid pro quo.
whoknew
Footballguy
To that point - from Tom Nichols on twitter -
"When you see the usual pro-Trump conservative writers out there trying to undermine Taylor's testimony, always bear in mind one thing: They know better. They know the law. They understand the basics of diplomacy. Their arguments are being made in bad faith. They. Know."
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The words that I remember
From my childhood still are true
That there's none so blind
As those who will not see
Dickies
Footballguy
The pro-Trump modus operandi is to smear the person, but not actually refute the substance of their claims. We'll see if that holds true here.
Oh, it probably will. Of course, resorting to personal attacks is a sign that the person has lost the argument anyway.
Jackstraw
Footballguy
All you need if that and then the Fox/Limbaugh/online propaganda machine takes it from there. Combine with a compliant mainstream media and you got SCANDAL!
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Still a nothing burger as it stands now. Dead upon arrival in Senate unless new info comes out damning to Trump.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Of course it's dead on arrival. That's got nothing to do with the fact that it's clear that Trump engaged in a quid pro quo which again isn't necessary but is definitely here to go after Biden to help himself politically.
It's because the Senate is in Republican hands and they will do nothing about it. Which is a good reason to flip the Senate, and may actually make that happen.
dozer
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Dead on arrival...not due to facts and what information there is...but due to the complicit GOP running the senate. And the public trial will expose them for what they are. And they will continue to lose power as they did in 2018.
History will not look kindly on the McConnell's of the world and those that enabled the corruption in the White House.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I remember reading a quote last month from an unnamed Republican Senator that if the Senate vote was secret, 30 GOP Senators would vote to convict. I'd guess that the number has only gone up since then.timschochet said:
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Don’t worry I’m sure we will eventually learn that on the official transcript includes Trump telling him ‘just to be clear this is a quid-pro-quo.’* That’s about the only thing that could be more damning than Taylor’s opening statement.
*Note: not an actual Trump quote, at least not yet.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Just put it to a vote soon so the Dems in Counties that voted for Trump will have to own their partisanship. This will crush the Dems in 2020.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Why would it crush them? The public continues to support this inquiry. Calling them partisan is laughable.
And the process is not over...why do you want to keep skipping part of the process and move straight to the Senate trial rather than letting the inquiry do what its supposed to?
Jackstraw
Footballguy
Things get exponentially worse for the Trumpies every day seemingly. No wonder you want it soon.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Are you a Trumpie? Weird that you would call yourself that. Normal Republicans are loving this debacle.
sho nuff
Footballguy
A. It isn't a coup and that is a completely false thing to even call this...just flat out dangerous for POTUS to be pushing such nonsense.
B. The more they learn...the more support goes against Trump in this situation.
C. Russia also wasn't a nothing burger.
This stuff flys on that other board because people still believe Trump there...here, we question such things.
badmojo1006
Footballguy
1978. Her name was HillaryOrtonToOlsen said:
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
No matter how much you believe it doesn't make it true. Keep living in your protected echo chamber bubble.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
It will be interesting to see what happens when Bolton confirms the quid pro quo. Rank and file Republicans have no idea who these other people are and don't trust them. But Bolton? Does anyone actually believe he would lie to benefit Democrats?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Actually...what I stated is true...not because I believe it...but because it is. You should back up your assertion that it is a coup...with something other than your feelings. Because it is a completely false claim and you know that. Echo chamber is funny coming from people who spend time parroting Trump's lies.
Poll after poll after poll shows me tob e correct about the support of the inquiry.
One piece of the puzzle that still seems to be missing is what finally triggered the release of the funds on September 11th? I don’t think the public announcement ever happened. Did they get spooked that someone would go public? Or was there some other kind of assurance that was given?
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
The fact that they don’t ‘know’ them likely helps their credibility with rank and file Republicans. Someone like Bolton confirming it will be more for the public benefit.
But the more the public gets behind it, the harder it will be for the GOP to ignore it. The tipping point is when ignoring it becomes more damaging than upsetting the Trump base. Who knows if that will ever happen.
So the fear that Bolton was going public is the winner. His testimony is going to be must-see TV. We’re getting the full picture of what the diplomats did, next will be to find out what the cabinet members did behind the scenes.
Zow
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Mile High
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The Z Machine
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