Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
the moops said:
sho nuff said:
What's really amazing is that people believe the guy closing in on14,000 lies over the last three years.SaintsInDome2006 said:
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
What is the relevance of who this person is now? Other than throwing chum in the water, what purpose does his/her identity serve. The allegations and testimonies on record now are far in excess of and more detailed than the WB report.
cosjobs
Footballguy
Pretty sure this iteration of radical right nationalism began with Agnew and Pat Buchanan writing his speechesAt some point in time since this period, when GOP voters -- or at least Nixon supporters -- were perhaps confident enough in their general majority that they still felt that they could safely value fair play from the president, they have since segued into excusing things far worse from the current president than Nixon ever did. It appears that stopping the spread of domestic leftism is way more important to them than playing fair and I wonder when that started. Reagan? Newt? When their majority numbers began slipping?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I don't even think you know what this is referring to.
This post even says that the State Department was providing funding for Kaleniuk's center. You really think our State and intel staff shouldn't be meeting with her or talking to her?
This guy writing this post obviously has no understanding of what was going on. Yes obviously the anti-corruption center was openly seeking Shokin's dismissal.
Allegedly this guy that the RW blogosphere is hounding works on Ukraine as a specialty. It makes total sense that he would be in communication with her if he does indeed work for the CIA, NSC or State.
Absolutely all of this is consistent with a US policy that opposes corruption in Ukraine.
Below is an example of some of Kaleniuk's work, the anti-corruption center helped put Manafort and other Yanukovych cronies away or in exile. Hence, these attacks.
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Justice Ministry investigation nets unexpected $567,000 windfall for state budget
- 11/17/17 Kiev Post
In the long battle to recover the more than $40 billion stolen by the regime of runaway former President Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine has notched a small victory.
The country received $567,000 in June as part of its investigation into former Justice Minister Oleksandr Lavrynovych, who allegedly rigged a state tender and embezzled $1.1 million to hire and pay U.S. law firm Skadden, Arps, Meagher, & Flom LLP and Associates.
The law firm appears to have refunded $567,000 to the Ukrainian government in June under pressure from Ukrainian and U.S. prosecutors, according to interviews with Ukrainian law enforcement officials.
The money transfer was first reported by the New York Times in September. A spokesman for the U.S. special counsel investigating Russian meddling into the 2016 U.S. presidential election, which includes the Skadden case, declined to comment.
Skadden did not reply to repeated requests for comment.
$567,000 question
On wiring the $567,000 to Ukraine, Skadden has claimed that the money had been held in escrow for future work that had never been done.
But the transfer only came after the Ukrainian government sent the U.S. Justice Department a letter requesting the repayment, and after Ukrainian prosecutors under Serhiy Gorbatyuk, head of the Special Investigations Department at Ukraine's Prosecutor General's Office, filed several Mutual Legal Assistance Requests through the PGO's international legal assistance department.
Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko himself thanked the U.S. Justice Department for its close cooperation in returning more than $500,000 from an American firm in a June Facebook post.
These are funds that were squandered by the former leadership of the Ministry of Justice under Yanukovych and removed from Ukraine by signing a fictitious agreement about services,†Lutsenko wrote, before referencing the criminal statute under which Lavrynovych is being prosecuted.
Investigation slowdown?
The investigation into whether the Yanukovych-era Ministry of Justice subverted procurement procedures to hire Skadden and then embezzled money to pay the firm was opened before Yanukovych fled the country, but heated up after the 2014 EuroMaidan Revolution.
Skadden was hired to produce a report justifying to the U.S. government the jailing of former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko by Yanukovych for her signing in 2009 of a controversial gas supply deal with Russia. The case against Tymoshenko was widely seen, both in Ukraine and internationally, as being politically motivated.
Gorbatyuk's office sent its first Mutual Legal Assistance Request to the United States in December 2014, and followed it up with two additional requests and four reminders.
Ukrainian representatives from the PGO's international legal assistance office visited Washington in December 2016.
March 2017 saw the probe speed up, as CNN published an article saying that Ukrainian prosecutors wanted to question Paul Manafort, a former advisor of President Yanukovych. In the same month, then-FBI Director James Comey was asked about the Ukrainian requests during a congressional hearing.
Gorbatyuk's office got a response in April, with correspondence and documents showing how the events took place, before the agreement was signed, as it was being fulfilled, and after its fulfillment, the prosecutor said.
Our requests for depositions were not fulfilled, Gorbatyuk added.
Prosecutors on the case want to question members of the Skadden team who came to Ukraine to work on the report, including former Obama Administration officials Gregory Craig and Clifford Sloan, as well as the London-based associate Alex Van der Zwaan, the Russian-speaking son-in-law of Russian oligarch German Khan, who prosecutors say acted as an intermediary for the team on much of the trip.
Court orders show that Gorbatyuk's team has received access to phone records from the team's time in Kyiv, showing their communications with Yanukovych government and Party of Regions officials.
Law firms and lawyers are often professional enablers, said Daria Kaleniuk, head of the Anti-Corruption Action Center. Lawyers are able to enable money laundering because they are protected by attorney-client privilege, meaning that they can say they are just representing their client's interests, and not helping them commit any wrongdoing.
But in fact lawyers have to also verify their clients and have to see who is behind the legal entities to whom they are providing services, she added.
The country received $567,000 in June as part of its investigation into former Justice Minister Oleksandr Lavrynovych, who allegedly rigged a state tender and embezzled $1.1 million to hire and pay U.S. law firm Skadden, Arps, Meagher, & Flom LLP and Associates.
The law firm appears to have refunded $567,000 to the Ukrainian government in June under pressure from Ukrainian and U.S. prosecutors, according to interviews with Ukrainian law enforcement officials.
The money transfer was first reported by the New York Times in September. A spokesman for the U.S. special counsel investigating Russian meddling into the 2016 U.S. presidential election, which includes the Skadden case, declined to comment.
Skadden did not reply to repeated requests for comment.
$567,000 question
On wiring the $567,000 to Ukraine, Skadden has claimed that the money had been held in escrow for future work that had never been done.
But the transfer only came after the Ukrainian government sent the U.S. Justice Department a letter requesting the repayment, and after Ukrainian prosecutors under Serhiy Gorbatyuk, head of the Special Investigations Department at Ukraine's Prosecutor General's Office, filed several Mutual Legal Assistance Requests through the PGO's international legal assistance department.
Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko himself thanked the U.S. Justice Department for its close cooperation in returning more than $500,000 from an American firm in a June Facebook post.
These are funds that were squandered by the former leadership of the Ministry of Justice under Yanukovych and removed from Ukraine by signing a fictitious agreement about services,†Lutsenko wrote, before referencing the criminal statute under which Lavrynovych is being prosecuted.
Investigation slowdown?
The investigation into whether the Yanukovych-era Ministry of Justice subverted procurement procedures to hire Skadden and then embezzled money to pay the firm was opened before Yanukovych fled the country, but heated up after the 2014 EuroMaidan Revolution.
Skadden was hired to produce a report justifying to the U.S. government the jailing of former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko by Yanukovych for her signing in 2009 of a controversial gas supply deal with Russia. The case against Tymoshenko was widely seen, both in Ukraine and internationally, as being politically motivated.
Gorbatyuk's office sent its first Mutual Legal Assistance Request to the United States in December 2014, and followed it up with two additional requests and four reminders.
Ukrainian representatives from the PGO's international legal assistance office visited Washington in December 2016.
March 2017 saw the probe speed up, as CNN published an article saying that Ukrainian prosecutors wanted to question Paul Manafort, a former advisor of President Yanukovych. In the same month, then-FBI Director James Comey was asked about the Ukrainian requests during a congressional hearing.
Gorbatyuk's office got a response in April, with correspondence and documents showing how the events took place, before the agreement was signed, as it was being fulfilled, and after its fulfillment, the prosecutor said.
Our requests for depositions were not fulfilled, Gorbatyuk added.
Prosecutors on the case want to question members of the Skadden team who came to Ukraine to work on the report, including former Obama Administration officials Gregory Craig and Clifford Sloan, as well as the London-based associate Alex Van der Zwaan, the Russian-speaking son-in-law of Russian oligarch German Khan, who prosecutors say acted as an intermediary for the team on much of the trip.
Court orders show that Gorbatyuk's team has received access to phone records from the team's time in Kyiv, showing their communications with Yanukovych government and Party of Regions officials.
Law firms and lawyers are often professional enablers, said Daria Kaleniuk, head of the Anti-Corruption Action Center. Lawyers are able to enable money laundering because they are protected by attorney-client privilege, meaning that they can say they are just representing their client's interests, and not helping them commit any wrongdoing.
But in fact lawyers have to also verify their clients and have to see who is behind the legal entities to whom they are providing services, she added.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Truly sad what they have descended to just to hold a majority.At some point in time since this period, when GOP voters -- or at least Nixon supporters -- were perhaps confident enough in their general majority that they still felt that they could safely value fair play from the president, they have since segued into excusing things far worse from the current president than Nixon ever did. It appears that stopping the spread of domestic leftism is way more important to them than playing fair and I wonder when that started. Reagan? Newt? When their majority numbers began slipping?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Apparently people in the far right wing have discovered that people in the State Department and IC in charge of Ukraine affairs were working on Ukraine affairs. This is pretty shocking.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The bothersome part is when Trump is caught doing improper things...the right has bashed the proper diplomatic channels used.
The ends do not justify the means when laws and ethics are tossed aside to meet those ends.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The sad thing is that we have a State Department with traditions and expertise going back 200+ years, and the President completely sidelined it. The most sickening thing is when Trump and his supporters say the president never spoke with the amazing array of talent on these matters around him.
Meanwhile typical Americans who want to learn anything about what the President was actually doing past his personal attorney requires they learn about an appalling rogue's gallery of Russian and Ukrainian autocrats, henchmen and organized crime figures
The Commish
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
I don't know how you keep on top of this stuff to keep the story straight...GB you GB SiD!!!!!!
Kenny Rogers would tell them what to do with that hand, as bad as it is.I keep coming back to "they can only play the cards in their hand"
yak651
Footballguy
They could learn a lot from Kenny. They would also know not to count their money while sitting at the table - or calling the POTUS on an unsecure line at the table, something like that...
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Huge relevance because he was wrong about call, met with Schiff team before report, and has obvious bias with ties to Biden. He needs to testify.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Also...he wasn’t actually wrong about the call....meeting with staff isnt really relevant either...neither is a tie to Biden (a tie that is quite ridiculous as it is)
Its distraction at best.
TheMagus
Footballguy
So I read through Morrison's deposition earlier today. It's not favorable to Trump and corroborates the testimony we have heard to date. There are a couple of points the GOP will pick up on like testifying to the fact that he was concerned with the call but he didn't think Trump did anything wrong or illegal - it was just not good for diplomatic relations between the two countries. He was also the guy who talked to Eisenberg and told him that access to the call memo should be restricted so it wouldn't leak but didn't know they were going to put it on the classified server - he just thought they would limit access to a small group of people on the normal server using security.
Anyway, I'm sure all we will hear from the Trump camp is, "See? He said Trump did nothing illegal! Case closed." which is irrelevant because he has no expertise on what is or is not legal and it's not his call either way.
Anyway, I'm sure all we will hear from the Trump camp is, "See? He said Trump did nothing illegal! Case closed." which is irrelevant because he has no expertise on what is or is not legal and it's not his call either way.
A couple of 
tidbits:
Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney · 6m
MORE: The Intel Committee is about to release the HOLMES transcript, which is remarkably fast since he just testified on Friday.
and,
Kyle Griffin@kylegriffin1 ·4m
Several GOP lawmakers were reportedly more "shaken" by the testimony from State Department aide David Holmes than they publicly let on.
tidbits:Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney · 6m
MORE: The Intel Committee is about to release the HOLMES transcript, which is remarkably fast since he just testified on Friday.
and,
Kyle Griffin@kylegriffin1 ·4m
Several GOP lawmakers were reportedly more "shaken" by the testimony from State Department aide David Holmes than they publicly let on.
The Commish
Footballguy
How exactly do we know the whistleblowers tie to Biden without knowing the identity of the person? 
yak651
Footballguy
Yep, I asked that the first day of public testimony when Jordan was saying the WB worked for Biden. How would he know that? Especially according to him only Schiff knows the WB.How exactly do we know the whistleblowers tie to Biden without knowing the identity of the person?
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Trump's aides eye moving impeachment witnesses out of White House jobs
What an innocent person does.
What an innocent person does.
You say that like facts matter.How exactly do we know the whistleblowers tie to Biden without knowing the identity of the person?
We live in a post-fact world.
Hopefully we will move to the ex post facto era in 2020...
The Commish
Footballguy
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Before last week, both sides were talking a bunch of conjecture. This side reported this speculation and the other side reported other speculation. After last week, and beginning tomorrow, one side will continue speaking with conjecture while the other side has and will continue to report based on evidence, testimony, and facts. It's amazing how some seem to equate the two as equally correct. Here is a velcro wall with a handful of crap... let's see what sticks.
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/holmes_final_version_redacted.pdf
I will probably wait for the Cliffs notes - but for anyone with the time and inclination to read
I will probably wait for the Cliffs notes - but for anyone with the time and inclination to read
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
THE CHAIRMAN: And making a cell phone call from Uknaine, is there
a risk of Russians listening in?
MR. HOLMES: I believe at least two of the three, if not all three
of the mobile networks are owned by Russian companies, or have
significant stakes in those. We generally assume that mobile
communications in Ukraine are being monitored.
THE CHAIRMAN: And, in fact, Ambassador Nuland's communications
at one point had been monitored and released for political effect?
MR. HOLMES: Yes, sir.
THE CHAIRMAN: So there was not only the concern with the
ownership of the telecommunication companies, but past practice?
MR. HOLMES: Yes, sir.
Yovanovitch was recalled for interfering in Trump's plans, but Sondland still has a job...
a risk of Russians listening in?
MR. HOLMES: I believe at least two of the three, if not all three
of the mobile networks are owned by Russian companies, or have
significant stakes in those. We generally assume that mobile
communications in Ukraine are being monitored.
THE CHAIRMAN: And, in fact, Ambassador Nuland's communications
at one point had been monitored and released for political effect?
MR. HOLMES: Yes, sir.
THE CHAIRMAN: So there was not only the concern with the
ownership of the telecommunication companies, but past practice?
MR. HOLMES: Yes, sir.
Yovanovitch was recalled for interfering in Trump's plans, but Sondland still has a job...
mr roboto
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
About John Solomon’s reporting:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/media/jimmy-finkelstein-the-hill-ukraine/index.html
It goes all the way to the top of The Hill.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/media/jimmy-finkelstein-the-hill-ukraine/index.html
It goes all the way to the top of The Hill.
Dickies
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
cosjobs
Footballguy
I've wondered about The Hill for a while. Some good investigative DC reporting, interspersed with blatant Trump agenda articles and always with excessive ads/pop-up advertising.
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
dkp993
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Excepts from Holmes' opening statement. I bolded a few items to break the monotony of the first section and add emphasis to a few points:
As the political counselor at Embassy Kyiv, I lead the Political Section covening Ukraine's domestic politics, foreign policy, and conflict diplomacy, and serve as the senior policy and political advisor to the Ambassador.
The job of an embassy political counselor is to gather information about the host country's internal politics, foreign relations, and security policies, repont back to Washington, represent U.S. policies in the foreign -- in that country, and advise the Ambassador on policy development and implementation.
In this role, I'm a senior member of the Embassy's Country Team and continually involved in addressing issues as they may arise. I'm also called upon to take notes in meetings involving the Ambassador or visiting senior U.S. officials with Ukrainian countenparts, particularly within the Ukrainian Presidential administration.
For this reason, I have been present in many meetings with President Zelensky and his administration, some of which may be germane to this inquiry. ...
While I am the Political Counselor at the Embassy, it is important to note that I am not a political appointee on engaged in U.S. politics in any way. It is not my job to cover or advise on U.S. politics. 0n the contrary, I am an apolitical foneign policy professional, and my job is to focus on the politics of the country in which I senve, so that we can betten understand the local landscape and better advance U.S. national interests there.
I joined the Foreign Service through an apolitical, menit-based process under the George W. Bush administration, and I have proudly served administrations of both parties and worked for their appointees, both political and career.
I arrived in Kyiv to take up my assignment as Political Counselor in August 2O17, a year after Ambassador Yovanovitch received her appointment. From August 2Q17 until her removal from post in May 2019, I was Ambassador Yovanovitch's chief policy advisor and developed a deep respect for her dedication, determination, and professionalism.
During this time, we worked closely together, speaking multiple times per day, and I accompanied Ambassador Yovanovitch to many of her meeting with senior Ukrainian counterparts. I was also the notetaker for senior U.S. visitors with, for example, President Poroshenko, whom I met at least a dozen times.
Our work in Ukraine focused on three pillars: addressing peace and security, economic growth and reform, and anti-corruption and rule of law. These pillars matched the three consistent priorities of the Ukrainian people since 2O14, as measured in public opinion polling, namely, an end to the conflict with Russia that restores national unity and territorial integrity, responsible economic policies that deliver European standards of growth and opportunity, and effective and impartial nule of law institutions that deliver justice in cases of high level official corruption.
Our efforts on this third pillar merit special attention -- special mention, because it was during Ambassador Yovanovitch's tenure that we achieved the hard-fought passage of a law establishing an independent anti-corruption court to tny corruption cases brought by the National Anti-Corruption Bureau, another independent institution established with U.S. support.
These efforts strained Ambassador Yovanovitch's relationship with President Poroshenko and some of his aIlies, including former Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko, who resisted fulIy empowering truly independent anti-corruption institutions that would help ensure that no Ukrainians, however powerful, were above the law. However, the Ambassador and the Embassy kept pushing anti-corruption and other pillars of our policy towand Ukraine.
Beginning in March 2019, the situation at the Embassy and in Ukraine changed dramatically. Specifically, our diplomatic policy that had been focused on supporting Ukrainian democratic reform and resistance to Russian aggression became overshadowed by a political agenda being promoted by Rudy Giuliani and a cadre of officials operating with a direct channel to the White House.
...
The barrage of allegations directed at Ambassador Yovanovitch, a career ambassador, which included aggressive reponting against her in the U.S. media, is unlike anything I've seen in my professional career.
...
While Ambassador Sondland's mandate as Ambassador to the European Union did not cover individual member states, Iet alone nonmember countries like Ukraine, he made clear that he had direct and frequent access to President Tnump and Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and portrayed himself as the conduit to the President and Mr. Mulvaney for that group.
Ambassador Perry -- sorry, excuse me -- Secretary Perry, Ambassador Sondland, and Ambassador Volken later styled themselves the Three Amigos and made clear they would take the lead on coordinating our policy and engagement with the Zelensky administration.
Around the same time, I became aware that Mr. Giuliani, a private lawyer, was taking a direct role in Ukrainian diplomacy. ...at one point during a preliminary meeting of the inaugural delegation, someone in the group wondered aloud about why Mr. Giuliani was so active in the media with respect to Ukraine. My recollection is that Ambassadon Sondland stated: Dammit, Rudy. Every time Rudy gets involved he goes and effs evenything up. He used the "F" word.
...
While Ambassador Sondland's phone was not on speaker phone, I could hear the President's voice through the ear piece of the phone. The President's voice was very loud and recognizable, and Ambassador Sondland held the phone away from his ear for a period of time, presumably because of the loud volume.
I heard Ambassador Sondland greet the President and explain that he was calling from Kyiv. I heard President Tnump then clarify that Ambassador Sondland was in Ukraine. Ambassador Sondland replied, Yes, he was in Ukraine, and went on to state that President Zelensky, quote, unquote, loves your ###.
I then heard Pnesident Trump ask, quote, "So he's going to do the investigation?" unquote. Ambassador Sondland replied that, "He's going to do it, " adding that President Zelensky will, quote, "Do anything you ask him to."
As the political counselor at Embassy Kyiv, I lead the Political Section covening Ukraine's domestic politics, foreign policy, and conflict diplomacy, and serve as the senior policy and political advisor to the Ambassador.
The job of an embassy political counselor is to gather information about the host country's internal politics, foreign relations, and security policies, repont back to Washington, represent U.S. policies in the foreign -- in that country, and advise the Ambassador on policy development and implementation.
In this role, I'm a senior member of the Embassy's Country Team and continually involved in addressing issues as they may arise. I'm also called upon to take notes in meetings involving the Ambassador or visiting senior U.S. officials with Ukrainian countenparts, particularly within the Ukrainian Presidential administration.
For this reason, I have been present in many meetings with President Zelensky and his administration, some of which may be germane to this inquiry. ...
While I am the Political Counselor at the Embassy, it is important to note that I am not a political appointee on engaged in U.S. politics in any way. It is not my job to cover or advise on U.S. politics. 0n the contrary, I am an apolitical foneign policy professional, and my job is to focus on the politics of the country in which I senve, so that we can betten understand the local landscape and better advance U.S. national interests there.
I joined the Foreign Service through an apolitical, menit-based process under the George W. Bush administration, and I have proudly served administrations of both parties and worked for their appointees, both political and career.
I arrived in Kyiv to take up my assignment as Political Counselor in August 2O17, a year after Ambassador Yovanovitch received her appointment. From August 2Q17 until her removal from post in May 2019, I was Ambassador Yovanovitch's chief policy advisor and developed a deep respect for her dedication, determination, and professionalism.
During this time, we worked closely together, speaking multiple times per day, and I accompanied Ambassador Yovanovitch to many of her meeting with senior Ukrainian counterparts. I was also the notetaker for senior U.S. visitors with, for example, President Poroshenko, whom I met at least a dozen times.
Our work in Ukraine focused on three pillars: addressing peace and security, economic growth and reform, and anti-corruption and rule of law. These pillars matched the three consistent priorities of the Ukrainian people since 2O14, as measured in public opinion polling, namely, an end to the conflict with Russia that restores national unity and territorial integrity, responsible economic policies that deliver European standards of growth and opportunity, and effective and impartial nule of law institutions that deliver justice in cases of high level official corruption.
Our efforts on this third pillar merit special attention -- special mention, because it was during Ambassador Yovanovitch's tenure that we achieved the hard-fought passage of a law establishing an independent anti-corruption court to tny corruption cases brought by the National Anti-Corruption Bureau, another independent institution established with U.S. support.
These efforts strained Ambassador Yovanovitch's relationship with President Poroshenko and some of his aIlies, including former Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko, who resisted fulIy empowering truly independent anti-corruption institutions that would help ensure that no Ukrainians, however powerful, were above the law. However, the Ambassador and the Embassy kept pushing anti-corruption and other pillars of our policy towand Ukraine.
Beginning in March 2019, the situation at the Embassy and in Ukraine changed dramatically. Specifically, our diplomatic policy that had been focused on supporting Ukrainian democratic reform and resistance to Russian aggression became overshadowed by a political agenda being promoted by Rudy Giuliani and a cadre of officials operating with a direct channel to the White House.
...
The barrage of allegations directed at Ambassador Yovanovitch, a career ambassador, which included aggressive reponting against her in the U.S. media, is unlike anything I've seen in my professional career.
...
While Ambassador Sondland's mandate as Ambassador to the European Union did not cover individual member states, Iet alone nonmember countries like Ukraine, he made clear that he had direct and frequent access to President Tnump and Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and portrayed himself as the conduit to the President and Mr. Mulvaney for that group.
Ambassador Perry -- sorry, excuse me -- Secretary Perry, Ambassador Sondland, and Ambassador Volken later styled themselves the Three Amigos and made clear they would take the lead on coordinating our policy and engagement with the Zelensky administration.
Around the same time, I became aware that Mr. Giuliani, a private lawyer, was taking a direct role in Ukrainian diplomacy. ...at one point during a preliminary meeting of the inaugural delegation, someone in the group wondered aloud about why Mr. Giuliani was so active in the media with respect to Ukraine. My recollection is that Ambassadon Sondland stated: Dammit, Rudy. Every time Rudy gets involved he goes and effs evenything up. He used the "F" word.
...
While Ambassador Sondland's phone was not on speaker phone, I could hear the President's voice through the ear piece of the phone. The President's voice was very loud and recognizable, and Ambassador Sondland held the phone away from his ear for a period of time, presumably because of the loud volume.
I heard Ambassador Sondland greet the President and explain that he was calling from Kyiv. I heard President Tnump then clarify that Ambassador Sondland was in Ukraine. Ambassador Sondland replied, Yes, he was in Ukraine, and went on to state that President Zelensky, quote, unquote, loves your ###.
I then heard Pnesident Trump ask, quote, "So he's going to do the investigation?" unquote. Ambassador Sondland replied that, "He's going to do it, " adding that President Zelensky will, quote, "Do anything you ask him to."
Dickies
Footballguy
State Department Official Testifies Mike Pompeo Called Sean Hannity About Ukraine
Hannity’s name sure seems to pop up a lot in these shady dealings
Hannity’s name sure seems to pop up a lot in these shady dealings
HellToupee
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mr roboto
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Dickies
Footballguy
To the best of my knowledge nobody in here that is demanding the WB be outed has answered the question posed.
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