jamny 5,054 Posted November 20 Nunes is horrible and adds nothing but his one note attack.I may not like some of what Schiff has done but he's doing a much better job overall. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 10,245 Posted November 20 Schiff is really good. 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 29,564 Posted November 20 Kyle Griffin@kylegriffin1 SCHIFF: My Republicans colleagues all they seem to be upset about ... is not that the president sought an investigation of his political rival, not that he withheld a W.H. meeting and $400m in aid … their objection is he got caught. Their objection is someone blew the whistle. 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamny 5,054 Posted November 20 18 minutes ago, Henry Ford said: I was very busy today. Is that an actual thing Morrison testified to? He was commenting on the phone call that he was listening in on, which we've all read the transcript of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koya 11,569 Posted November 20 Just now, Sinn Fein said: Kyle Griffin@kylegriffin1 SCHIFF: My Republicans colleagues all they seem to be upset about ... is not that the president sought an investigation of his political rival, not that he withheld a W.H. meeting and $400m in aid … their objection is he got caught. Their objection is someone blew the whistle. This stain will last for the rest of our/their lives. This era will end, but the actions of those who chose party over country? It. Is. On. The. Record. This can’t be denied like 90% of those who never copped to supporting Nixon. We will always know where allegience truly stands. Sadly, party. Not country. At least we know. In their on words. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 10,245 Posted November 20 Are people still supporting this president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koya 11,569 Posted November 20 Just now, Otis said: Are people still supporting this president? Only 35-40% (what have we become. Or worse yet, what have we always been?). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 10,245 Posted November 20 Schiff nailed it in that closing. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 10,245 Posted November 20 Just now, Koya said: Only 35-40% (what have we become. Or worse yet, what have we always been?). Still seems higher than “wacky fringe,” which is all I’d expect to be on board still at this point. Also that one crazy outspoken Republican congressman (Jim Jordan is it?) cracks me up. The ultimate “NOTHING TO SEE HERE. PLEASE DISPERSE” guy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamny 5,054 Posted November 20 7 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said: Kyle Griffin@kylegriffin1 SCHIFF: My Republicans colleagues all they seem to be upset about ... is not that the president sought an investigation of his political rival, not that he withheld a W.H. meeting and $400m in aid … their objection is he got caught. Their objection is someone blew the whistle. Dumb comment. Yes, while some are overly consumed with the WB, most are discussing the actual evidence. I think both sides have generally done a good, and respectful job t the witnesses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyike 1,079 Posted November 20 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said: Kyle Griffin@kylegriffin1 SCHIFF: My Republicans colleagues all they seem to be upset about ... is not that the president sought an investigation of his political rival, not that he withheld a W.H. meeting and $400m in aid … their objection is he got caught. Their objection is someone blew the whistle. I can't claim to be a huge fan of Schiff, but he ended the inquiry with a bang. This was only a part of it. Very impressive. Edited November 20 by lazyike 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 10,245 Posted November 20 Just now, lazyike said: I can't claim to be a huge fan of Schiff, but he ended the inquiry with a bang. This was only a part of it. Very impressive. Agreed. Talk about an intelligent person and talented public speaker. Really well done. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 24,407 Posted November 20 25 minutes ago, mr roboto said: It’s also true that they keep saying it’s coming out soon but the timeline keeps getting pushed. We’ll get it right after the trade deal with China is completed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheriff Bart 12,072 Posted November 20 38 minutes ago, jamny said: Where do you get that from? I think one of the concerns might be how he perceived the "demand" from Trump. 37 minutes ago, Henry Ford said: I was very busy today. Is that an actual thing Morrison testified to? It's what Jordan asked and Morrison confirmed tonight. That there was concern about his judgment and he might leak this phone call that the WB reported. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheriff Bart 12,072 Posted November 20 9 minutes ago, Otis said: Agreed. Talk about an intelligent person and talented public speaker. Really well done. Missed it, my youngest son wanted to watch American Dad with me before bed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koya 11,569 Posted November 20 17 minutes ago, Otis said: Still seems higher than “wacky fringe,” which is all I’d expect to be on board still at this point. Also that one crazy outspoken Republican congressman (Jim Jordan is it?) cracks me up. The ultimate “NOTHING TO SEE HERE. PLEASE DISPERSE” guy. It’s far more than the wacky fringe. It’s the right leaning side of “respectful society” This is a significant part of who and what we are, as a nation. And that is reflected on how we are seen on the world stage. I could never have imagined such a precipitous drop in world wide respect for our country. It’s clear that’s what has and is occurring. All for judges and a little bump in our collective 401k. Is selling our soul and role as beacon on the hill really worth it? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,508 Posted November 20 28 minutes ago, Otis said: Are people still supporting this president? Of course, the 2nd best of my lifetime behind Reagan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 11,981 Posted November 20 32 minutes ago, Otis said: Are people still supporting this president? Absolutely 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry jones 270 Posted November 20 1 hour ago, Mario Kart said: What is in these, supposed, reports that you know about yet others are not privy to knowing about? What position in government do you hold that allows you to know things the public won't know until there is a report? What is there to learn? Is this the November surprise we were promised last year? This is funny...for 3 years been reading on here all these posters with “inside sources” about Trump going down and how involved with Russia etc. and now it starts from the other side laughable at all the folks who either are clueless or are just fanning the flames Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 24,407 Posted November 20 5 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: Of course, the 2nd best of my lifetime behind Reagan Ronnie would be embarrassed and ashamed to be mentioned in the same sentence. 4 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,508 Posted November 20 3 minutes ago, timschochet said: Ronnie would be embarrassed and ashamed to be mentioned in the same sentence. With all due respect Tim, you have no idea how he would feel. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 29 Posted November 20 7 minutes ago, timschochet said: Ronnie would be embarrassed and ashamed to be mentioned in the same sentence. Reagan would have nothing but nice things to say about Trump. At the bare minimum he would say nothing. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the moops 4,004 Posted November 20 2 hours ago, Kal El said: 2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Vindman & Jordan goes exactly like you'd think. Jordan got dunked on. That was pretty well played Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 11,981 Posted November 20 5 minutes ago, timschochet said: Ronnie would be embarrassed and ashamed to be mentioned in the same sentence. Those 2 alphas would be fast friends and I bet Ronald would’ve loved the JR Donald has 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_32 7,597 Posted November 20 7 minutes ago, timschochet said: Ronnie would be embarrassed and ashamed to be mentioned in the same sentence. I wish this dialogue would die. Those that support the foolishness want to talk about anything but the facts. It's why they throw bait out there like second best president since Raegan. Just seeing which guppy will bite, so the subject can be changed with minutia that doesn't mean anything. Stay on topic. They cannot rebuttal with anything but nonsense if you do. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 10,245 Posted November 20 8 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: With all due respect Tim, you have no idea how he would feel. I’m on the opposite side of the spectrum from you. And I would kill for a president like Reagan. And Tim is right — you pee on Reagan’s legacy when you group him with Trump. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,508 Posted November 20 8 minutes ago, MAC_32 said: I wish this dialogue would die. Those that support the foolishness want to talk about anything but the facts. It's why they throw bait out there like second best president since Raegan. Just seeing which guppy will bite, so the subject can be changed with minutia that doesn't mean anything. Stay on topic. They cannot rebuttal with anything but nonsense if you do. whoa, I was right there with you until your 2nd sentence. The facts are on the Republicans side here. No witness says there was a crime or bribery, phone transcript is legit and Trump said nothing wrong, aid was delivered, no quid pro quo. This is all on topic and Trump is winning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 24,407 Posted November 20 15 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: With all due respect Tim, you have no idea how he would feel. Well since he’s one of my favorite Americans, since I’ve been to the Reagan Library 4 times and have read several books on the man I think I have SOME idea how he would feel. Just a little. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,508 Posted November 20 7 minutes ago, Otis said: I’m on the opposite side of the spectrum from you. And I would kill for a president like Reagan. And Tim is right — you pee on Reagan’s legacy when you group him with Trump. I have no idea how people can not agree that Trump is killing it as President. I get not liking him personally. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_32 7,597 Posted November 20 Just now, Don't Noonan said: whoa, I was right there with you until your 2nd sentence. The facts are on the Republicans side here. No witness says there was a crime or bribery, phone transcript is legit and Trump said nothing wrong, aid was delivered, no quid pro quo. This is all on topic and Trump is winning. You're distorting the facts to fit what you want to believe instead of what actually happened. And it isn't any more complicated than that. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,508 Posted November 20 Just now, timschochet said: Well since he’s one of my favorite Americans, since I’ve been to the Reagan Library 4 times and have read several books on the man I think I have SOME idea how he would feel. Just a little. 4 Times!!! Well then, you got me. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 29 Posted November 20 Just now, timschochet said: Well since he’s one of my favorite Americans, since I’ve been to the Reagan Library 4 times and have read several books on the man I think I have SOME idea how he would feel. Just a little. well i saw him on tv. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 24,407 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Don't Noonan said: I have no idea how people can not agree that Trump is killing it as President. I get not liking him personally. Well he’s certainly killing something. Oh wait I know: it’s American exceptionalism! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 29 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Don't Noonan said: I have no idea how people can not agree that Trump is killing it as President. I get not liking him personally. he might be the best equipped person ever to be president. He seems to thrive on the pressure, he looks younger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 29 Posted November 20 plus the guy just annexed the formally occupied territories. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 24,407 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Don't Noonan said: 4 Times!!! Well then, you got me. It’s a great place to go- if you’re a fan you really need to see it sometime. But I didn’t need to go there to know what he’d think of Donald Trump. Trump has tried to destroy nearly everything that Reagan stood for: internationalism, free trade, open immigration, a path to citizenship for the undocumented, fiscal responsibility and conservatism. And most of all, opposition to tyrants abroad. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 11,973 Posted November 20 Just now, quick-hands said: plus the guy just annexed the formally occupied territories. There are threads for that and it isn’t a positive. Can we please keep this to the impeachment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the moops 4,004 Posted November 20 10 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: No witness says there was a crime or bribery It is not the job of a witness to determine if someone committed a crime 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 11,973 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, quick-hands said: you mean the witch hunt. sure. i apologize. I mean a legitimate inquiry into some very questionable actions by POTUS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GROOT 781 Posted November 20 still waiting for bombshell 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_32 7,597 Posted November 20 Just now, GROOT said: still waiting for bombshell Unless someone from the political circle breaks then there isn't one. Only boring facts from trustworthy people with nothing to gain by talking about what actually happened. It's up to the public whether to follow the facts or follow what they want to believe to be the facts. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waingro 1,207 Posted November 20 53 minutes ago, Sheriff Bart said: Missed it, my youngest son wanted to watch American Dad with me before bed. Here you go Schiff Closing Statement 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juxtatarot 7,946 Posted November 20 16 minutes ago, timschochet said: It’s a great place to go- if you’re a fan you really need to see it sometime. But I didn’t need to go there to know what he’d think of Donald Trump. Trump has tried to destroy nearly everything that Reagan stood for: internationalism, free trade, open immigration, a path to citizenship for the undocumented, fiscal responsibility and conservatism. And most of all, opposition to tyrants abroad. Fiscal responsibility? Are you giving him a pass due to the Cold War? National debt exploded in the 80s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Choke 246 Posted November 20 (edited) Trump once again showing total disrespect for our military and the uniform. Edited November 20 by Choke 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal El 1,145 Posted November 20 Another day in the books, and it's looking more and more likely that Trump will get impeached, despite the efforts by him and others to keep the truth from coming out. I do think the Senate still doesn't convict, but I've been wrong before. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 29 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Kal El said: Another day in the books, and it's looking more and more likely that Trump will get impeached, despite the efforts by him and others to keep the truth from coming out. I do think the Senate still doesn't convict, but I've been wrong before. not this time. you are spot on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dickies 8,063 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Kal El said: Another day in the books, and it's looking more and more likely that Trump will get impeached, despite the efforts by him and others to keep the truth from coming out. I do think the Senate still doesn't convict, but I've been wrong before. Whether the Senate convicts depends on the pressure Senators feel for their jobs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,508 Posted November 20 2 minutes ago, Kal El said: Another day in the books, and it's looking more and more likely that Trump will get impeached, despite the efforts by him and others to keep the truth from coming out. I do think the Senate still doesn't convict, but I've been wrong before. You have a better chance playing pick up sticks with your butt cheeks than Trump getting removed by the Senate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quick-hands 29 Posted November 20 Just now, Dickies said: Whether the Senate convicts depends on the pressure Senators feel for their jobs the house vote will be closer to 50/50 than the senate 70/30 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal El 1,145 Posted November 20 Just now, Don't Noonan said: You have a better chance playing pick up sticks with your butt cheeks than Trump getting removed by the Senate. I'm very talented. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites