Sheriff Bart
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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (10 Viewers)
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Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
How is Rudy not in jail?
Max Power
Footballguy
Dems have been claiming for a while now that Bolton is the smoking gun and Hunter did nothing wrong and has nothing to hide. I don't see why they aren't jumping on this offer,
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
You could say that about a lot of these guys. It's pretty unbelievable when you listen to it all laid out.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Say hunter is guilty. It doesn’t excuse trump. It’s a distraction. If you want hunter investigate it through proper channels.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Maybe there is more to Hunter’s story? I am surprised we don’t have a leak on the general information Bolton has to say.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
And I don’t believe this. He’s as likely to blow up in the dems face. I think they know that.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
They may not want to throw Biden under the bus unless they know what Bolton will say. Even then, they may not be willing to do it.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
If such an offer really existed, then it's much better for Democrats to simply allow it to hang out in the open. It makes the Republicans and Trump look bad for making such an offer in the first place.
cosjobs
Footballguy
I only trust Bolton about 40% He could absolutely blow up in the Dems' faces,
Never put someone on the witness stand if you don't already know what they are going to say. If they cannot depose him prior, they should leave it be.
As a bonus, if the Dems refuse call him as a witness, the Repubs may call him themselves, just to piss off the Dems.
-jb-
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Phil Elliott
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Weebs210
Footballguy
cosjobs
Footballguy
Did you happen to see the 12 hour interrogation they delivered on Hillary? The one where she was exonerated this week? Why send anyone as a sacrificial lamb to that bs, when NO ONE can show how he was anything but a contrived distraction.
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Phil Elliott
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I’m ok with it too but I think they view Hunter Biden as a circus unbecoming of the impeachment trial. I have a feeling we will see both not because of a deal but because they get enough votes for Bolton.
cosjobs
Footballguy
Imagine a scenario where McConnell can lie about trying to get witnesses (but not ) and then adding whatever he can think of to make the Dems look as vile as possible.
That's your answer.
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Which Dems have been claiming this? Provide quotes if you can.
I'm asking because the resistance I've heard about Hunter Biden as a witness in this trial from the House managers is because Hunter Biden is irrelevant to the case. That's not a commentary on Hunter Biden's character. It's accurately saying he's not a fact witness in this case. That's a much different claim than "did nothing wrong and has nothing to hide".
Which Dems have been claiming Bolton is the smoking gun? The House managers have mentioned Bolton specifically as a witness with relevant first-hand information about the case, but as one of several potential witness that have not testified or cooperated with the investigation.
cosjobs
Footballguy
This is why the Dems tried to pass Amendment 9 last night, which would allow Justice Roberts to decide the validity of any witnesses. Why the hell would the Repub caucus vote to disallow the Bush-appointed SCJ from deciding which proposed witnesses appear? I think its pretty clear to all parties that SCJ Roberts would call BS on the Hunter invitation. You might extrapolate the real validity of his testimony is dubious at best.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Man, the more and more I listen to this not only what Trump, Giuliani and gang did was illegal, but downright evil by willingly trading the lives of Ukrainians for political power.
cosjobs
Footballguy
Bolton called Trump's Ukraine blunder a "drug deal" and resigned soon after. Not sure why anyone would need the Dems to interpret those actions
Because Hunter Biden is completely irrelevant to the impeachment, but would still derail the democrats efforts to present facts?
randall146
Footballguy
This is as good a place as any to note that the Philadelphia Flyers mascot, Gritty, is under investigation for Allegedly punching a 13 year old at a season ticket holder event
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
It's too bad Van Hollen's amendment was introduced and voted down at the end of the night. Allowing Roberts to rule on relevancy of witnesses would have been good for the trial.
The Amendment did get Trump's lawyers to argue that impeachment was the job of Congress and the courts shouldn't get involved, which was a nice touch for anyone arguing the House should have waited for the courts to rule on subpoenas they issued during the inquiry.
cosjobs
Footballguy
GUILTY OF WHAT? Being a privileged son of a politician? That would be a hell of a long line and Hunter would be nowhere near the front of it.
randall146
Footballguy
Very few Dems have claimed Hunter did nothing wrong. The consensus, by far, has been “go ahead and investigate and if he did something wrong punish him.”
But, as you are well aware, Hunter’s guilt or innocence is irrelevant to the Trump impeachment
Henry Ford
Footballguy
They don’t have to agree to anything. If they want Hunter to testify, they’ll issue a subpoena. They have the numbers and set up the rules that way.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
[scooter]
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Does a Senate committee have the power to have Hunter Biden come in and testify to committee? For example, could Lindsey Graham call for Hunter Biden to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee?
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
BassNBrew
Footballguy
I'm searching...
CNN Headline - Schiff shows officials' messages seeking Biden probe
Cool, maybe they are getting somewhere. Click on the link and don't find anything about this but do find an article why milk is allowed on the Senate floor and who is drinking two glasses and sneaking in chocolate.
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
this is wearing me out. No way average guy/girl is watching is this.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
Good pacing by the Dems. Schiff had the first primetime hour and brought up about a half dozen documents and witnesses that are bring withheld.
Polish Hammer
made of glass
I had an alert earlier today on my phone making the same headline and it was from USA Today, FWIW.
Can't the executive privilege thing be worked through under the judgment from the Nixon investigations and Supreme Court case? I thought they defined what could truly fall under that category.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Lol this case by Schiff is slam dunk. This is an amazing piece of work.
Am I right that there are at least 30-40 Republican Senators are in the chambers all the time? I really don’t know.
Am I right that there are at least 30-40 Republican Senators are in the chambers all the time? I really don’t know.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
The candy desk is very popular. Tradition in the Senate. Currently Toomey (PA) sits at it and its filled with Hershey chocolates.
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Nick Vermeil
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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beef
Footballguy
Most likely not. My local news channels have all been doing decent recaps though.
Schiff is absolutely amazing right now. Prime time!
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The Big Donkey
Footballguy
yak651
Footballguy
I would agree. As long as no restrictions on Bolton testifying, pull the trigger. If Biden did something wrong, too bad. He should get called out for it. If he didn't it would make great waves for his Presidential bid. He could run on the person that took Trump down.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
I’ve been trying to imagine what it would be like to hear all of this for the first time. It’s so broad and so deep and so obvious it’s kinda weird it all actually happened.
At one point today Bennet was gesturing at all the empty seats on the floor, wondering why the hell it was allowed and trying to express his displeasure without talking. At the time, there were 23 Senators not present, 21 of them Republicans.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I deleted my post because I was mostly kidding. Mostly. I don’t know what’s going on. The Senate chamber is not that big of a room, but they must be listening. Is it a bunch of 8th graders on Snapchat during chemistry? No idea.
badmojo1006
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
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