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Ill just laugh right here at claiming the GoP has the high ground on truth when Trumps main defense Cipollone lied at the very start about the house process...and Trump, the leader of the party, lies more than any other politician.I would say neither side does, but the GOP has slightly higher ground.
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She said he used the F-word and "many others" when he asking her if Americans cared about Ukraine. He then asked her if she could find Ukraine on a map.
I agree completely with the first half of the bolded, the second half is all about one's perspective.I would say neither side does, but the GOP has slightly higher ground.
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But my perspective is the RIGHT perspective, so there's that.
Thought you were going to say:
Actually apparently it comes from Fruman.
If the football is Republican principle, the football doesn’t exist. Trump could go Full Nero on that audio and if the Republicans ok it then we just happen to be ruled by Nero.
I’ll argue the point. Yes, I think the Republicans would be fine with full throated madness. - Read the ABC story first, then comment perhaps.
I saw a USA Today link. That one? The one where Pompeo cursed at a reporter? Is that the one that convinced you that Republicans will go all Nero? Because someone cursed?
Can Justice Roberts intervene? Seems most judges wouldn’t allow that kind of thing without evidence. I’m more of a bird law guy though...
It’s ABC, it’s further up. I’m not sure it matters but they broke the story.
Ya see, what he did here was try to call an audible...he had been feeding Porschenko, but he’s out of the game now, so you gotta change the game plan, but they tried to just pound it forward when they didn’t have the blocking. Now they’re holding on every play and saying “there’s holding on every play by everybody” while they cut the feed to the game while they’re up in the 4th, and claim to have won the game but won’t let anyone see the film or the stats or the scoreboard.
That's blatantly false in this case, at least, but history will judge the GOP appropriately.I respectfully disagree. If truth was a bright object in the sky, Democrats would be the furthest thing from that.
If by "blatantly" you mean "100% accurate" then yes, you are correct. We're on the same page.
He called for aides to bring out a map with no writing...and then they proceeded to bring one out and make her point to Ukraine...that’s just astonishing that this is how our Secretary of State would act. That’s just insane.
"he is protecting himself from a witch hunt"....simple really. It's the Ms Dash of excuses...works on just about anything.
False...impeachment and removal would not overturn the results. The order of succession does not go to Hillary.If by "blatantly" you mean "100% accurate" then yes, you are correct. We're on the same page.
History will definitely be a harsh judge, but not to the GOP. It's going to be on the Democrats who have abused the Constitution and are trying to overturn legitimate election results by using the impeachment process to get their way by any means necessary.
Please don't twist my posts. You know that's not what I was referencing nor was it anything we were talking about.
I may not know the names of all of my wife’s siblings, but I can spot the Kamchatka peninsula on a map thanks to Risk.
I twisted nothing...you claimed they were trying overturn a legitimate election results. That isn't what impeachment and removal would do.
You're playing word games now and I'm just not into that type of petty BS. Please be better. I know I will be because the proof will be that I won't be responding to your inane posts anymore. Play petty "gotcha" games with someone else, please.
I think this is a prerequisite to be in the administration. Everyone else resigned or were forced out.
It's clear they have shifted completely to "what he did is not impeachable". Watching the evolution from "he did nothing wrong and everything was perfect" to acknowledging that he actually did something, but it's not impeachable has been one of the most fascinating goalpost shifts that I can think of.....definitely in my lifetime.
Even having to go to the courts is obstruction though. Its not obstruction of the courts...its obstruction of congress.
Forcing them to take an extra step or two is literally the definition of obstruction. How would it not be?
You may call it bad faith but it's still not obstruction. Going to the courts to settle your matter is literally the opposite of obstruction.
Umm, no. Obstructing congress from its constitutional duty of oversight is literally obstruction of congress.
na...it's going through the process. Sue to get what's being requested and get the courts on your side, then you can pound the "obstruction of justice" gavel all you want. Obstruction of Congress always seemed like weak sauce to me...many Presidents have decided not to cooperate completely with Congress in the past. Trump took it to an extreme by not cooperating at ALL but in reality we are talking about degrees of a familiar behavior IMO. I said it when it happened, that the House really needed to dot all Is and cross all Ts on this and I personally don't care how long it takes.
Sorry just reading this again. To be clear, no, not that one - the one where the President of the United States was recorded by a couple of greasy grifters in the course of a side hustle at his private business. It’s on ABC.
I completely disagree. History will remember the Democrats as the adults in the room, trying to rein in the GOP who are using any means necessary to get away with abusing the power, obstructing and covering up.If by "blatantly" you mean "100% accurate" then yes, you are correct. We're on the same page.
History will definitely be a harsh judge, but not to the GOP. It's going to be on the Democrats who have abused the Constitution and are trying to overturn legitimate election results by using the impeachment process to get their way by any means necessary.
Oh don't worry your weary head. They've held onto a list of "articles" for when they lose in 2020.
