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Ah, I'd ask why...wikkidpissah said:
It's bad enough that judicial decisions regarding antitrust laws have allowed CBAs that prevent eighteen year-olds from working in the professional field of their choice, then to have an organization preventing them from cashing in on the billions -- yes, billions -- that they make various industries is a crime, IMHO.
Why is higher learning stupid, or is this a theory/practice distincition?
I don't know. California adopts the NAIA model? I'm not that incredibly well-versed regarding the fallout of this; in fact, I just saw it as news and was a little taken aback. South Carolina has introduced legislation to do the same. Sounds like dominoes are falling.
too big to change. mind you, i never even applied to an institute of higher learning, took my SATs on acid and, by visiting friends and touring colleges w rock bands, came to understand that the most usable skill most people learn in college is sleeping 2 to a dorm bed. if it wasnt for school ties, school teams, tradition & tenure, 75% of our universities would have been closed by digital by now and good writtance.
Absolutely. The NCAA is that car that passed you on the highway going 100...and the police just pulled out and flipped on their lights. Soon enough that car will be pulled over.
This is kinda where I am, though ideally all sports would have minor leagues independent of institutions of higher learning. Separate the sporting business from education completely.
I do think there is some value in combining them, since some sports can help fun campus needs, if done right. Plus getting higher ed isn't a bad thing for athletes, but why not let them actually major in their sport if they want to? But MLB exists with a minor league system and I am sure the others could too. Problem is they have a free farm system with college players so why pay for your own?
Interesting concept, but I still think fundamentally they should be kept separate. Athletics already have too much financial influence in some universities, and only a small percentage of kids will have the talent to make their sport “degree” worth it.
Then you need the pro leagues to eliminate barriers to entry for people of legal working age.
I agree, only a small percentage have the talent to go on to the pros in their given sport. But how many grads actually use their degree after college regardless? I have a college degree that has nothing to do with any job I've ever had.
Nice.
For most I agree, for the NFL I am not sure an 18 year old can physically handle it. Some maybe, most doubtful.
I could be all wrong about this but I believe college sports are generally a bigger deal in red states, some of whom (Alabama?) have gone so far as to have imposed criminal penalties for violating NCAA rules. Specifically, South Carolina is a state where Dabo is king and his curious blend of prosperity gospel and authority over his players is not only excused but celebrated -- it's difficult to see his supporters not holding sway if this issue ever reaches serious consideration there.
I pretty much agree with you and some of the distinctions you're making, but I'd rebut gently that California is a huge, huge state for collegiate sports. You can't throw a rock out here without hitting some sort of college field or training facility it seems.
The main thing I learned in college was my Social Security number. I memorized the hell out of that. In fact, I still remember it.
The existence of useless degrees isn’t great justification for creating others. I don’t think football/baseball/etc. should be degrees because they don’t have enough academic merit, and the sports create a revenue stream which has undue influence on many universities. But if you really want all those sporting degrees, perhaps minor leagues could function more like trade schools instead?
I never said the degrees were useless. Like any degree some will use them, some won't. But forcing someone who wants to be an engineer to take History of Prisons seems to be similar to a student athlete taking Social Science classes. But for some, who actually have a true chance at going pro, why not offer classes that will help them? Just like an Engineer will need certain classes to become one.
One option is the way it’s done in the entire rest of the world outside the US. Play professional sports at a sports club, learn stuff at a school. No need to combine the two. Universities can still have intramural and club sports, as they do now, which address the sports needs of 99% of the students. Elite athletes, who for the most part aren’t there to get a degree anyway, can give up the charade and focus on their craft full time at a professional sports club.
I just think too few have a legitimate shot at becoming pro to create new degrees and curricula. Moreover, I don’t believe athletic $ should be driving fiscal decisions at institutes of higher learning.
) would have to get by on $76.5 million to run the programs. Of course, boosters could kick in on some better players.
Some bad google-fu there.