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1 hour ago, King of the Jungle said:

I think the more obvious answer is that COVID and injuries are king this year. Enjoy your depth.

Excellent point...depth is always important but this year it may prove to be the deciding factor in who wins your league title.

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Robert Tonyan (TE, GB) - Week 5 Waiver Wire Pickups

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BALLER MOVE: Add in 12+ Team Leagues

ROSTERED: 29% of Leagues

ANALYSIS: There is George Kittle, and then there is Robert Tonyan. Or at least that is what the fantasy points leaderboards tell me through Week 4. I'm not surprised at Kittle being the only TE to have played a 40-PPR-point game this season (Week 4), but I certainly am at Tonyan being the only other one with a game over 28 points (33.8) in PPR formats at the position. But that's what Green Bay's offense allows one these days with all of its injuries and absences.

With both Allen Lazard (indefinitely) and Devante Adams (this week) out, it was time for other players to step up. Jamaal Williams did so from the backfield and Robert Tonyan from the tight-end position. Tonyan was targeted 6 times, grabbed all of those six passes, and finished W4 with the most receiving yards (98) among all Packers' players while scoring 3 TDs! You read that right. Not even Kittle has reached that touchdown-mark (only Tyler Higbee and Tyler Lockett have had 3-TD games so far this season).

Tonyan is not going to have such a monster game on a weekly basis, sure, but he's played 48, 44, 40, and 42 snaps in all four games this year and has been on the field for more plays than all teammates except MVS and Lazard (probably done for the year). Tonyan has low-key caught 13 of 14 targets for 173 yards (9.7 Y/R) and has more than double receiving touchdowns than any other Packer (5 to 2 by Lazard/Jones/Adams).

The competition for Tonyan at tight end isn't high. Only Marcedes Lewis and Jace Sternberger have played 60+ snaps at the position through four weeks. Tonyan is a surefire WW acquisition no matter your league depth. He very well merits a stash with GB out on a bye this week, and is this close to becoming a weekly starter at the TE spot. Make sure you get him before other fantasy GMs catch up with the upside he carries.

 

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I just dropped Hurst for Tonyan.  I probably just cursed Tonyans career and set Hurst on a path for stardom.  LOL

 

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1 hour ago, Jamesinaz said:

I just dropped Hurst for Tonyan.  I probably just cursed Tonyans career and set Hurst on a path for stardom.  LOL

 

at least we know who to blame now if :censored: hits the fan. Congrats you just put a huge target on your back. thanks for taking one for the team here at Footballguys 

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12 team lg with small bench (3 spots).  Would you drop D.Harris for Tonyan right now?  With Fournette injured, I grabbed Harris as insurance late.  I have Kelce at TE, but having another TD Heavy TE as a Flex is an intriguing option.  Would Tonyan be able to maintain a level of efficiency that could merit dropping a starting RB for him?  On the flip side, would Harris produce enough in the NE offense to merit keeping?

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I dropped Gesicki for him.......it may end up being a wash, or I may even end up regretting it, but Tonyan's upside is quite a bit higher since he has Rodgers chuckin it to him.  Adams back will obviously impact his target share, but I'd bet Tonyan will be the #2 receiving option on GB, moving forward.

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On 10/7/2020 at 5:16 PM, Manster said:

I dropped Gesicki for him.......it may end up being a wash, or I may even end up regretting it, but Tonyan's upside is quite a bit higher since he has Rodgers chuckin it to him.  Adams back will obviously impact his target share, but I'd bet Tonyan will be the #2 receiving option on GB, moving forward.

Adam's back might help Tonyan get more looks. I got Hill, JuJu and Keenan Allen as my top WR's and Allen as my Flex but with Ertz taking huge dumps of notta lately after the bye I think I might just end up starting Tonyan over him. At the very least he can give me similar production and maybe I try to eventually trade Kelce before the bye for some picks and a better back up RB for the bench 

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On 10/7/2020 at 2:16 PM, Manster said:

I dropped Gesicki for him.......it may end up being a wash, or I may even end up regretting it, but Tonyan's upside is quite a bit higher since he has Rodgers chuckin it to him.  Adams back will obviously impact his target share, but I'd bet Tonyan will be the #2 receiving option on GB, moving forward.

This is my thinking as well. I dropped $65/400 FAAB on him and no one else even bid 20 on him. But I wanted to overbid to ensure I got him. I think he's THE surprise TE this year and will end up top-10, maybe top-6 even. 

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11 minutes ago, ATB said:

This is my thinking as well. I dropped $65/400 FAAB on him and no one else even bid 20 on him. But I wanted to overbid to ensure I got him. I think he's THE surprise TE this year and will end up top-10, maybe top-6 even. 

Same here. Spent about 1/3 of what I had left for the season.

Reminds me of Julius Thomas scenario in 2013.

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The sweeping judgement from several "knowledgeable" guys has basically been "This *MAY* be the sleeper breakout candidate of the year, that everyone in the fantasy  community basically ignored".

 

Now, I own him in 2 leagues, and was forced to start him in one, for the Monday night miracle this week.   Do I think this is the next Gronk/Kittle breakout type player?

I don't want to go that far, but as I told another leaguemate, we can't completely ignore that possibility now. Let's just say theres ONLY a 15% chance of that happening. I'd say that is a good conservative guess.  If that is the case, I want to be first in on this. Get him while he is remotely cheap, and use or flip him later in the season as you see fit.

(70% rostered on Yahoo, +45% in the last day)

 

Will he be a league winner?  Doubtful, but he may well be a high end plug and play as the season progresses.   Sure, no one has historically wanted to depend on a Green Bay TE (Jermichael Finley anyone???)  but go back to his week 2 and 3 lines.    Not much yardage, but he did get a TD in both weeks.  His week 3 explosion was an outlier, but the prior two weeks would seem to indicate this is NOT some fluke.

 Rodgers generally throws to the inner circle he trusts, and Monday night it certainly looked like that connection was made.

 

Tight end has not been strong this year overall, I don't see it as unlikely where he posts  low end TE1 numbers the rest of the way.....with the upside of more.

 

 TZM

 

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Robert Tonyan (ankle) did not practice Wednesday.

Tonyan played a season-low 59% of the snaps against the Bucs after limping off in the second quarter. He eventually returned for the second half, but Tonyan's numbers were forgettable with 3-25-0 on four targets on a day Aaron Rodgers was deleted by Tampa's stifling defense. Tonyan will be a TE1 if he suits up this week against Houston.

Oct 21, 2020, 5:01 PM ET

 

 

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On Tonyan's last snap, he grimaced and grabbed his leg again. The announcers never said anything, and he must have been able to run off the field ok because play never stopped. The Packers ran one more play and then that was it. So we don't really know if he hurt it worse or not.

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On 10/9/2020 at 3:17 PM, TZMarkie said:

 Rodgers generally throws to the inner circle he trusts, and Monday night it certainly looked like that connection was made.

Tonyan has a season high of 6 targets and that came in a game where GB's entire starting WR corps was out injured.

Dude is a decent enough streamer in the hope that he grabs a TD, but his target share is horrible even when most of his competition for targets is out with injuries.  With Adams/MVS back he's probably a 3-4 target guy most weeks and that doesn't leave a lot of room to make up points if he doesn't find the endzone.

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1 hour ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Tonyan has a season high of 6 targets and that came in a game where GB's entire starting WR corps was out injured.

Dude is a decent enough streamer in the hope that he grabs a TD, but his target share is horrible even when most of his competition for targets is out with injuries.  With Adams/MVS back he's probably a 3-4 target guy most weeks and that doesn't leave a lot of room to make up points if he doesn't find the endzone.

But but but he worked out with Kittle and they have the same hairdo! 

Wise man said, trust no Green Bay tight end. 

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ESPN's Rob Demovsky reports Robert Tonyan (ankle) "worked in a helmet to the side with the rehab coordinator" in Thursday's practice. 

Per Demovsky, Tonyan was doing more than the Packers' other injured players, but he still was not in pads. Tonyan is now looking genuinely questionable for Sunday's showdown with the Texans after playing through the injury against the Bucs in Week 6. It's tough to say with how dire tight end is right now, but fantasy managers need to have a Tonyan back-up plan ready. 

SOURCE: Rob Demovsky on Twitter 

Oct 22, 2020, 2:12 PM ET

 

 

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Robert Tonyan (ankle) is questionable for Week 7 against the Texans.

Tonyan was limited for Friday's practice but is still considered a true question mark after sitting out in the middle of the week. Mercedes Lewis and Jace Sternberger would be thrusted into a rotational role against Houston if Tonyan can't go. It's a situation to avoid for re-draft formats if Tonyan were in fact ruled out.

Source: Tom Silverstein on Twitter

Oct 23, 2020, 3:54 PM ET

 

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Packers TE Robert Tonyan (ankle, questionable) is expected to play in Week 7 against the Texans.

Tonyan sat out of practice in the middle of the week before logging a limited practice on Friday. He has seen at least three targets in every game following Week 1 and has become a weekly starter for fantasy managers. Tonyan has five scores on the year, most among Packers pass-catchers. Mercedes Lewis and Jace Sternberger could steal a few additional snaps from Tonyan this week but neither is worth a look from fantasy managers as long as Tonyan is active.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Oct 25, 2020, 8:01 AM ET

 

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Robert Tonyan caught both of his targets for 32 yards in Green Bay's Week 7 win over the Packers.

A majority of his production came on a 31-yard catch that Tonyan, who was considered questionable for this one, had to dive for after he beat Eric Murray down the sideline. It's worth noting that Tonyan has totaled nine targets across three games with Davante Adams and 11 (5.5 per game) in the two the latter was sidelined for. Tonyan will remain a low-end TE1 against the Vikings in Week 8 if only for the offense he's involved in.

- Rotoworld

 

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Robert Tonyan (ankle) was upgraded to "full" for Thursday's practice.

Tonyan hasn't been 100 percent, but he has been gutting out his ankle issue. Tonyan's usage has predictably, sadly fallen following Davante Adams' return, but tight end is such a wasteland right now that he maintains TE1 status in the Packers' elite offense. 

Oct 29, 2020, 4:38 PM ET

 

 

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Robert Tonyan caught 5-of-7 targets for 79 yards in Green Bay's Week 8 loss to the Vikings.

A majority of Tonyan's production came on a 45-yard catch up the seam in the second half as he got open downfield following busted coverage. His seven looks were encouragingly the second-highest mark on the team behind Davante Adams' (12) — only one week after Tonyan was targeted a lowly two times, too. He unsurprisingly hasn't scored a touchdown since Adams returned in Week 6, but Tonyan's splash plays the past two weeks have kept him relevant at a thin position. He'll again be ranked as a TE1 on Thursday if only because he clearly has outstanding rapport with Aaron Rodgers.

- Rotoworld

 

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Wow watching him tonight he is pretty much useless and unstartable.
After his 3 TD performance I jumped on the bandwagon and haven’t seen anything close since.

He plays mostly just 3rd downs, Rodgers doesn’t even look at him, (1 target and catch for 5 yards) and half the time he stays in to block.

Lewis the other TE even has a TD. And Rodgers has thrown 4 td’s tonight with Tonyan not getting a sniff.

Rodgers just has better choices I guess.

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26 minutes ago, Mark Football said:

Fools gold

He was the classic sell high candidate, even Stevie Wonder saw this coming.

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He's a TE.  If you aren't expecting up and down weeks I can only assume you're new to FF.  Prime Gronks, Jimmy Grahams, and Antonio Gates are few and far between.  Even Mark Andrews has had some duds this season. 

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OK Tonyan is still available in my league.  Not sure I care.  I have Jonnu (fading?) and grabbed Goedert off waivers last week.  Thinking Goedert might be the guy for the stretch run if Jonnu continues to fade.

 

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Robert Tonyan (ankle) is questionable for Week 10 against the Jaguars.

Tonyan suffered an ankle injury in practice Thursday and wasn't able to participate the following day. Green Bay's training staff remain sticklers for players up in the air and would only clear Tonyan if he's truly healthy for Sunday. Fantasy players should keep an eye on Jace Sternberger as he would likely rotate with Mercedes Lewis if Tonyan is out.

SOURCE: Tom Silverstein on Twitter

Nov 13, 2020, 3:40 PM ET

 

 

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2 hours ago, Faust said:

Robert Tonyan (ankle) is questionable for Week 10 against the Jaguars.

Tonyan suffered an ankle injury in practice Thursday and wasn't able to participate the following day. Green Bay's training staff remain sticklers for players up in the air and would only clear Tonyan if he's truly healthy for Sunday. Fantasy players should keep an eye on Jace Sternberger as he would likely rotate with Mercedes Lewis if Tonyan is out.

SOURCE: Tom Silverstein on Twitter

Nov 13, 2020, 3:40 PM ET

Drafted Kittle and flipped a San Fran RB for Ertz early in the season, was enjoying the flexibility in my line up and then...

So I grabbed Tonyan as someone had enough of his duds but he looked good to me this week...back to the drawing board. 

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Robert Tonyan (ankle) will play in Week 10 against the Jaguars.

With torrential rain and wind on deck for Sunday, fantasy players can downgrade Tonyan even after he was declared active. Note that Tonyan has averaged 3.5 targets per game in his last four starts alongside Davante Adams.

Nov 15, 2020, 11:38 AM ET

 

 

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Why downgrade? Seems like rain would increase the likelihood of Rogers throwing lots of short passes to Tonyan.

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3 minutes ago, Joe Summer said:

Why downgrade? Seems like rain would increase the likelihood of Rogers throwing lots of short passes to Tonyan.

Possible and maybe some out of the backfield as he has lines up in warm ups at FB with Lovett now out for the year.

https://twitter.com/robdemovsky/status/1328028166779260932?s=21

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Robert Tonyan caught 3-of-4 targets for 33 yards in Green Bay's Week 10 win over the Jaguars.

Tonyan, who was downgraded with an ankle injury on Friday, ultimately suited up. Aaron Rodgers targeted him twice on Green Bay's first two possessions, leading him entirely too much on the first target and drawing a DPI with the second. Unfortunately, this performance extended Tonyan's scoreless streak since Davante Adams returned from injury in Week 6. Tonyan will still rank as a low-end starter against the Colts in Week 11 since his position remains an absolute disaster for fantasy.

- Rotoworld

 

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