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2019-2020 NHL Season Thread (2 Viewers)
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ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Teams only sweep a western Canada trip once, maybe twice in a lifetime.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Wilson definitely wasn’t the person Reavo should have been tangling with last night.The_Man said:
Blackhawks with 5 of 6 possible points, yet give up 57 shots to the Leaves. Pretty fun game at the UC last night. Lehner working out nicely.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
whoknew
Footballguy
Grapes...wait!
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
lame. coach's corner was the best.
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Ironic as it's Remembrance Day and he's a huge supporter of veterans. Of course, the firing basically stemmed from him referring to immigrants as "you people" on Saturday's CC.
I suspect Burke will be in his chair on Saturday.
Up here it's almost a bigger deal than our PM and his black face fiasco.
I suspect Burke will be in his chair on Saturday.
Up here it's almost a bigger deal than our PM and his black face fiasco.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Dam..I loved Grapes. :( "You people" does not seem like a firing offense. They must have wanted him gone as he was a strong personality and probably ruffled some feathers behind the scene.
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wilked
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
real edgey
The guy was out of touch for years besides this anyway. He got his feathers ruffled last year because of the Hurricanes daring to have fun, and as a direct result, they stepped it up, which was fun to watch even as an outsider. His suits were the only reason to even sit through his rambling, just to see how bad they were.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
The game passed Cherry by 20 years ago, agree or disagree with today's decision but that's why he should have been let go years ago.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Also, he was clearly given a chance to clarify or apologize for "you people" and refused. Add this on top of decades of anti-European comments, rough comments about women, slights at Quebec, etc... and yeah 
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Canada is a way younger country than the United States or most other countries in the world. The majority of people in the country are within a couple generations of immigrating here (and Canada only shares a border with the US so the immigration is all legal and encouraged), so the "you people" and immigration discussion is maybe a lot different here than in the United States, for example.
The whole thing is so stupid. All he had to do is say everyone should respect the veterans/troops and wear a poppy. But he specifically went after the most diverse parts of the country and stuck to his guns.
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
well no kidding, and it was highly entertaining. he’s a living breathing parody and it was great.
I think Canadians are just embarrassed that he’s kind of the ambassador of their hockey media dying a slow inevatible death over the last 20 years just like the country’s dominance in the sport. I suggest you all just see a shrink and enjoy guys in loud suits saying crazy #### for what they are. way to go Canada, you blew it.
rockaction
Footballguy
Huh. I don't have too much of substance or thoughts on Cherry other than to say he always seemed like a nativist kind of guy, which manifested itself in weird commentary and especially distorted his view of hockey, like when he couldn't accept Zetterberg as captain of the Red Wings when they won the Cup with him. He said something like Detroit didn't like that team because they liked "rock 'em sock 'em" hockey, and the Europeans didn't play that way.
I'm almost inclined to agree with Brasky, though. It was always at least something to pay attention to and manufacture outrage about.
End of an era.
I'm almost inclined to agree with Brasky, though. It was always at least something to pay attention to and manufacture outrage about.
End of an era.
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Summer Wheat
Footballguy
I get something should have been done but after watching that I think a week off was more than enough.
I mean Canada just elected a guy Prime Minister who wore black face multiple time and played grab ### with female reporters. What is worse?
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
I don't know what the hell is going on with Granlund in Nashville but if Guerin can sign him for $4-5MM this offseason I will rethink all opinions on Fenton with that genius long con.
E Street Brat
Footballguy
What's this poppy nonsense he wants people to wear?
It's a Canadian tradition to wear poppies on Veteran's/Remembrance Day. That would explain the random people I saw selling flowers around the holiday in Michigan growing up.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
The guy who did the racist thing last week and refused to apologize or fathom the fact he might be wrong is worse than the guy who did the racist thing 20 years ago, apologized multiple times and clearly knows he was wrong and has changed. HTH.
Edit - and I don't love Trudeau, this is just a terrible whatabout that people want to jump to.
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Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Chemical X
Footballguy
tying sports with patriotism and the military shukes me, tbh. i respect what the troops do, don’t get me wrong, but why do we continue with national anthems? why is every commercial about how nfl players love the military, write letters to soldiers, etc? i come to watch this nonsense for 3 hours of entertainment and to get away from real life stuff. that’s just me. what does wearing a poppy have to do with anything remotely NHL related? and if he’s specifically talking aboot an 18 yr old fresh off the boat from finland, maybe that kid has no idea what the heck a poppy means.
Foosball God
Foos
It's not just Canadian, there is a tradition in the US as well albeit more for Memorial Day than Veteran's Day.
“In Flanders Fields” by John McCrae
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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That's interesting. I never actually heard of that tradition growing up, just the remembering/honoring of veterans depending on the day. My grandpa served in the late 50s- early 60s, as a telegraph installer, and he wasn't a huge fan of the experience, IIRC. I think he didn't like his CO or something. I'll have to ask him next time I see him.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
It’s implied by the cities/areas of Toronto he’s talking about vs. the good people in small towns. Us v. Them is his whole shtick though. I know some people like that divisive BS but I won’t miss it.
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
please don't lump typical 85 year old dumb xenophobic comments in with appreciation for eccentric loud mouth old school hockey guy shtick. try to be a little more inclusive before criticizing shtick.
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chet
Footballguy
I will be even stronger--I think Trudeau is a complete disgrace and unqualified to be PM. I despise him but I wasn't one of the people calling for his head over his costume from ~20 years ago. Lots of things he's done recently to skewer him on though.
And to call Don Cherry's remarks racist is to be an overly sensitive snowflake. Canada is turning into a milquetoast country where they won't take any action for fear of offending someone. It's certainly evident in the downturn of our hockey domination.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Or maybe a generation of Canadians was still trying to run players through boards and beat the piss out of everyone because Don Cherry said it was cool in his videos, while the Americans and Europeans were a decade plus into puck skills programs, half ice minor leagues etc, etc, actually improving how they play from the lower levels up.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Everyone plays the way of the Fedorov's and Bure's and Selanne's of years past that he railed against, oh no and they celebrate goals too! Cherry couldn't see the way the game was going and it completely passed him by.
He was out of touch 15 years ago when he was responsible for a junior team that won 17 out of 224 games over three years. Literally the worst OHL teams ever he was at the head of. No Europeans on them though, so he made his political points. Too bad he can't stick to sports amiright.
He was out of touch 15 years ago when he was responsible for a junior team that won 17 out of 224 games over three years. Literally the worst OHL teams ever he was at the head of. No Europeans on them though, so he made his political points. Too bad he can't stick to sports amiright.
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Interestingly Grapes had an interview today with CBC (I believe ) and said he wasn't given the option to come on and apologize and if he would have he would say I'm sorry.
Seems to me they gave maclean that chance so maybe they got the opportunity they were looking for to relieve him and took it.
Seems to me they gave maclean that chance so maybe they got the opportunity they were looking for to relieve him and took it.
chet
Footballguy
You got the sarcasm in my post but there is some truth to the fact that I see Canadians tripping over themselves to be so politically correct so as to not offend anyone. It's quite amazing IMO and happens because Canadians think they're doing the right thing but IMO, they're not. Anyway, I don't want to hijack this discussion anymore than we have; let's get back to the discussion of player headshots.
Or maybe a generation of Canadians was still trying to run players through boards and beat the piss out of everyone because Don Cherry said it was cool in his videos, while the Americans and Europeans were a decade plus into puck skills programs, half ice minor leagues etc, etc, actually improving how they play from the lower levels up.
chet
Footballguy
I don't really like Kadri but appreciated his comments about the situation.
Don't worry--I found a link.
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Guess I should also add that I'm not disappointed that he's gone. It's too bad he goes out like Pete rose.
Grapes was a true supporter of minor hockey. Not lip service. When my son was in minor midget and played in a Toronto tournament , Cherry was there. Took photos with the kids too. He also loves this country and you have to admire that. It's sad he goes out like this.
Grapes was a true supporter of minor hockey. Not lip service. When my son was in minor midget and played in a Toronto tournament , Cherry was there. Took photos with the kids too. He also loves this country and you have to admire that. It's sad he goes out like this.
chet
Footballguy
Right--playing the devil's advocate, they fired him for saying people should support the Canadian military. Oh the horror.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
If he "people should wear poppies and support the military" he'd still be on the air. For the record I don't think this particular thing he said was that outrageous by his own standards of sitting on his pulpit and punching down but it's been years and years coming and with all he's said over the years, he lost the benefit of the doubt decades ago.
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not sure what happened, but the Sabres found a way to break Dahlin. He's been terrible.
Probably Don Cherry's fault.
Probably Don Cherry's fault.
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