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Whatever happened to Assad?
He announced that Kurdish controlled land in Northern Syria will be coming back under Syrian State control.Whatever happened to Assad?
Ha, that's weird that a news story on the guy just happened to come out about the time I posted. I was thinking how strange that he just kind of disappeared after his name was in the news daily at one point. Maybe he thinks things have settled down enough to poke his head out.He announced that Kurdish controlled land in Northern Syria will be coming back under Syrian State control.
Five minutes ago or so.
Yep, it’s definitely about the oil. Trump forgot he’s not supposed to say that part out loud.Ha, that's weird that a news story on the guy just happened to come out about the time I posted. I was thinking how strange that he just kind of disappeared after his name was in the news daily at one point. Maybe he thinks things have settled down enough to poke his head out.
Sounds like he's onboard with us controlling the oil fields. Much better than ISIS, and I guess as long as we control it that means stability. So basically Trump pulled a bs Antonio Cromartie pull out of Syria. Saying he pulled out, but it sounds like we are going to control the oil fields for sometime going forward. Again, better than ISIS, but now the question is who gets the oil. I suppose it belongs to the Kurds, but if we are there paying to protect it, and it was basically going to ISIS before, we at least need to cover our out of pocket expenses imo.
No one is disputing that for Trump it is now about oil.
Who would have predicted that? It’s not like he criticized the previous administrations for not taking the oil during the Iraq war.A separate deal between Turkey and Russia accelerated Syrian government deployment as joint Russian-Syrian patrols are part of the new border arrangements.
But Russia was critical that Washington will continue to keep troops in Syria.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said “what Washington is doing now, the seizure and control of oil fields in eastern Syria under its armed control, is, quite simply, international state banditry.”
“All hydrocarbon deposits and other minerals located on the territory of Syria do not belong to the IS terrorists, and even less to the ‘American defenders from IS terrorists,’ but exclusively to the Syrian Arab Republic,” he added.
https://apnews.com/099ddacb51184717b562f160c4cf6fc2
It was about oil before Trump too.Henry Ford said:No one is disputing that for Trump it is now about oil.
That doesn’t make the history of US intervention in Syria over the last decade about oil.
That is certainly your contention, and I understand that. But current developments don’t prove that to be the case.It was about oil before Trump too.
US cannot completely surrender the area to Syria and allow Russians to expand their presence in the area. My guess is that Joint Chiefs explained this to POTUS but needed a reason to have him sign off. Saying there are some assets gives us something to protect even if it's just dumb.ren hoek said:These topics are always busiest when the propaganda is on full blast. Not just here, but the whole news cycle. 'Trump has betrayed the Kurds. Trump gave the house away to Putin and Assad. All roads lead to Russia.'
When the propaganda narrative is laid bare as a lie- 'protecting the Kurds' actually being about 'protecting the oil', Trump's actions actually being belligerent toward Russia and Syria- the issue has long since disappeared to the backburner.
I get that it's stupid hard to keep up with this news cycle, but it's annoying that we are commonly left with a distorted version of events.
Why not?US cannot completely surrender the area to Syria and allow Russians to expand their presence in the area.
It really wouldn't....it would be a desert wasteland where different belief systems were killing each other off....nothing more.It would be interesting to rewrite the history of the Middle East over the last 100 years if there was no oil there.
They might not be killing each other off. The Sunni-Shiite conflict was pretty much dormant for 800 years prior to the 20th century. It was revived by ambitious leaders who were given money and prestige from England and France during and after World War I once the value of oil was finally recognized. Later on the USA got involved, supporting our own guys in the conflict like Ibn Saud and the Shah of Iran. All for the same purpose: to control the oil supply.It really wouldn't....it would be a desert wasteland where different belief systems were killing each other off....nothing more.
Russians tend to have a destabilizing effect. This is problematic in regions that seem to have an affinity for discord. US and its allies are a necessary counterweight.Why not?
Couldn't we look at the USA's work in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya, and conclude it's had a destabilizing effect as well? It was Russia that protected Damascus from a massive bombing campaign by the west. I think you would at least agree that bombing other countries tends to destabilize them. The difference between US and Russian intervention in Syria is that Russia is a welcome, co-operative partner of the Syrian govt, while the US is an illegal occupier. I don't think we should concern ourselves with Russian influence in the region anymore than we should support Saudi influence in the region (also bad).Russians tend to have a destabilizing effect. This is problematic in regions that seem to have an affinity for discord. US and its allies are a necessary counterweight.
Again I tend to agree with this overall point. But it’s tied very much to our addiction to oil in general. And like a heroin addiction, we can’t let that go cold turkey, we need to wean ourselves off it. We need to develop some methadone. That will take time. And until it happens we can’t allow Russia or anybody else to dominate the Middle East.This oil empire stuff needs to die. It's bad for the region, bad for peace in the world, and completely unsustainable.
You might as well be parroting from RT. I'm not sure what "massive bombing campaign" you're referring to but I'm guessing it's when folks were trying to stop Assad from barrel bombing and gassing more Syrians. Russia blocked that effort and hired themselves out to an overmatched Assad military. Syria has become a client state of Russia rather than a "welcome co-operative partner". As long as the checks clear then Russia has Assad's back.Couldn't we look at the USA's work in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya, and conclude it's had a destabilizing effect as well? It was Russia that protected Damascus from a massive bombing campaign by the west. I think you would at least agree that bombing other countries tends to destabilize them. The difference between US and Russian intervention in Syria is that Russia is a welcome, co-operative partner of the Syrian govt, while the US is an illegal occupier. I don't think we should concern ourselves with Russian influence in the region anymore than we should support Saudi influence in the region (also bad).
If Russia wants to be the next empire to collapse trying to control the Arab world, let them. If they want to forge an economic partnership with the Syrian people for energy markets, then good for them. This oil empire stuff needs to die. It's bad for the region, bad for peace in the world, and completely unsustainable.
Ok, well I guess RT was telling the truth then. It was a big scare. Some of us were afraid it could trigger a massive conflict. A US/Brit/French coalition attempted to bomb Damascus, long before there was independent confirmation of a "chemical attack" "against his own people" in Douma. Their evidence for this attack was social media videos by groups like the White Helmets. The OPCW, realizing this was not sufficient proof to blame Assad for a chemical weapons attack, made the decision to launch a fact-finding mission. But the US/FR/UK wanted to bomb Syria before their work was complete, and did.You might as well be parroting from RT. I'm not sure what "massive bombing campaign" you're referring to but I'm guessing it's when folks were trying to stop Assad from barrel bombing and gassing more Syrians. Russia blocked that effort and hired themselves out to an overmatched Assad military. Syria has become a client state of Russia rather than a "welcome co-operative partner". As long as the checks clear then Russia has Assad's back.
You're being obstinate - more than usual really - to ignore the original purpose of US in Syria and that's to defeat IS. Phrases and language like "the US is an illegal occupier" signals to me that your memory is rather convenient when it comes to the topic of Syria.
This is the best post I've read in some time.ren hoek said:Couldn't we look at the USA's work in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya, and conclude it's had a destabilizing effect as well? It was Russia that protected Damascus from a massive bombing campaign by the west. I think you would at least agree that bombing other countries tends to destabilize them. The difference between US and Russian intervention in Syria is that Russia is a welcome, co-operative partner of the Syrian govt, while the US is an illegal occupier. I don't think we should concern ourselves with Russian influence in the region anymore than we should support Saudi influence in the region (also bad).
If Russia wants to be the next empire to collapse trying to control the Arab world, let them. If they want to forge an economic partnership with the Syrian people for energy markets, then good for them. This oil empire stuff needs to die. It's bad for the region, bad for peace in the world, and completely unsustainable.
What kind of report runs through october 25th? Thats awfully convenient.Isis is back, thanks to the Turkish invasion:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/19/politics/pentagon-report-syria-turkey-ceasefire/index.html
October 25th was the last working/weekday of Fiscal Calendar October 2019.What kind of report runs through october 25th? Thats awfully convenient.
I have never heard of a calendar like that. Is that a common federal government thing? Where does October 28-31st get booked then? In November?October 25th was the last working/weekday of Fiscal Calendar October 2019.
The fiscal calendar is a common federal government thing, yes, I believe it's also common in other areas, like finance. The 38th -31st did get booked in November this year.I have never heard of a calendar like that. Is that a common federal government thing? Where does October 28-31st get booked then? In November?
ETA: Also do they always divide things into 1/3 of a year periods?
My last employer was fiscal year end September 30th which was annoying, but I had never heard of the 4-4-5. Makes sense. I know our CFO hated the partial pay period calculations especially when commissions were involved.The fiscal calendar is a common federal government thing, yes, I believe it's also common in other areas, like finance. The 38th -31st did get booked in November this year.
The year is divided into months and quarters. This year Q1 started at the beginning of Fiscal October (which was September 30 this year), Q2 starts at the beginning of fiscal January (Dec 30), Q3 starts at the beginning of fiscal April (March 30), Q4 starts at the beginning of fiscal July (June 29). In this way the calendar is divided up into months that are exactly 28 or 35 days long (4 or 5 weeks), 160 or 200 non-overtime full time work hours.
I can't speak to the start date, but the end date makes sense in terms of lining up with a month end. It may be they do reporting on some sort of trimester basis, or maybe the start date was arbitrary or related to current events at the time.My last employer was fiscal year end September 30th which was annoying, but I had never heard of the 4-4-5. Makes sense. I know our CFO hated the partial pay period calculations especially when commissions were involved.
This report was from July 1st to October 25th though which still doesn't fit anything. That's a third.
A trimester report that ends in October? That seems odd still, but maybe some of the federal guys on here can speak to it better.I can't speak to the start date, but the end date makes sense in terms of lining up with a month end. It may be they do reporting on some sort of trimester basis, or maybe the start date was arbitrary or related to current events at the time.
LIke I said, I can't speak to the start date. But more importantly, I don't find the time span chosen very relevant to understanding the implications of the findings.A trimester report that ends in October? That seems odd still, but maybe some of the federal guys on here can speak to it better.