I guess that's questionable. His targets should decrease, but he also might get different/less coverage on him. TD's may also go up. Would expect a slight downgrade in PPR, and about equal in standard.Meant to post in this thread instead of the Sanders thread... Will this decrease Kittle's value?
And we get their 5th, which will only be a few picks later than the 4th we gaveI believe the trade is for a 3rd and a 4th.
Sanders is a UFA next year. Think that is the primary differenceI really want to know how Sanu is worth a 2, and Sanders is essentially worth a 3? In what way has Sanu ever been as good as Sanders?
ETA: This makes the Pats deal look much worse, great move by the 49ers.
A patriot 2 is basically a 3 thoughI really want to know how Sanu is worth a 2, and Sanders is essentially worth a 3? In what way has Sanu ever been as good as Sanders?
ETA: This makes the Pats deal look much worse, great move by the 49ers.
My initial thought was that it will help open things up more for him.Meant to post in this thread instead of the Sanders thread... Will this decrease Kittle's value?
Ya but a SF 3 might basically be a 4.A patriot 2 is basically a 3 though
A 49ers 3 is basically a 4. They are undefeated too.A patriot 2 is basically a 3 though
Maybe with Sanders going to be 33 years old in March and Sanu just turned 30 a few months ago, that could be the reason.I really want to know how Sanu is worth a 2, and Sanders is essentially worth a 3? In what way has Sanu ever been as good as Sanders?
ETA: This makes the Pats deal look much worse, great move by the 49ers.
Sanu is 30 and under contract for this year and next. He carries a $3.5 million salary for all of 2019 (meaning NE only has to pay about 60% of that total) and $6.5 million for next season.I really want to know how Sanu is worth a 2, and Sanders is essentially worth a 3? In what way has Sanu ever been as good as Sanders?
ETA: This makes the Pats deal look much worse, great move by the 49ers.
It probably is if they are similar caliber players. I guess I just think Sanders is a much better player than Sanu. He's more explosive, and offers more versatility. He's just got much ore upside in my eyes. Sanu has never shown he can play outside, or get behind anybody.Anarchy99 said:Sanu is 30 and under contract for this year and next. He carries a $3.5 million salary for all of 2019 (meaning NE only has to pay about 60% of that total) and $6.5 million for next season.
Sanders is 32 and under contract for this year only. He carries a $6 million salary for this year (meaning SF has to pay about 60% of that) but will be a free agent at the end of the year.
Is getting a younger and less expensive receiver under contract for an extra year worth a higher draft pick?
Wait, what? You can't make this comparison and ignore talent. I would spend a higher draft pick trading for Julio Jones than I would for Deebo Samuel.Anarchy99 said:Sanu is 30 and under contract for this year and next. He carries a $3.5 million salary for all of 2019 (meaning NE only has to pay about 60% of that total) and $6.5 million for next season.
Sanders is 32 and under contract for this year only. He carries a $6 million salary for this year (meaning SF has to pay about 60% of that) but will be a free agent at the end of the year.
Is getting a younger and less expensive receiver under contract for an extra year worth a higher draft pick?
In NE's case, having Sanu for an extra year and lower dollars mattered. Maybe they were concerned how much an impact someone new could make in half a season and they were concerned they couldn't re-sign him. Maybe health played a factor. I believe Sanu has only missed one game over his career. BB sees things differently than the rest of us . . . maybe he has different plans for Sanu than we see in store for him.It probably is if they are similar caliber players. I guess I just think Sanders is a much better player than Sanu. He's more explosive, and offers more versatility. He's just got much ore upside in my eyes. Sanu has never shown he can play outside, or get behind anybody.
Sanu does have a perfect passer rating though. Perhaps Belichick has some trickery planned? Sanu is a also a better run blocker.
I didn't think Wes Welker had a ton to offer pre-NE and the Pats traded a second round pick for him, too. Maybe Bill has big things in store for Sanu. As for your example, Jones carries a significant higher salary cap hit than Samuel does and NE has very little cap space. The Falcons could have given NE Jones for free and they couldn't roster him without clearing multiple players.Wait, what? You can't make this comparison and ignore talent. I would spend a higher draft pick trading for Julio Jones than I would for Deebo Samuel.
Just feel like Sanders is much better than Sanu. I think the Falcons would have taken a 3rd rounder for Sanu.... would any other team have offered that? I kind of doubt that, and Atlanta's season is over.I didn't think Wes Welker had a ton to offer pre-NE and the Pats traded a second round pick for him, too. Maybe Bill has big things in store for Sanu. As for your example, Jones carries a significant higher salary cap hit than Samuel does and NE has very little cap space. The Falcons could have given NE Jones for free and they couldn't roster him without clearing multiple players.
Think it's safe to say that not even Belichick valued a two back then like he does now. While the Pats were at the vanguard of valuation of draft picks, it would seem that back during Welker's time, a two seemed eminently reasonable. Today we debate about even fourth and fifth rounders, something the Pats helped usher in, albeit gradually and not as drastically as now.I didn't think Wes Welker had a ton to offer pre-NE and the Pats traded a second round pick for him, too. Maybe Bill has big things in store for Sanu. As for your example, Jones carries a significant higher salary cap hit than Samuel does and NE has very little cap space. The Falcons could have given NE Jones for free and they couldn't roster him without clearing multiple players.
Not if Sanu is on the back of his Jersey.Anarchy99 said:Sanu is 30 and under contract for this year and next. He carries a $3.5 million salary for all of 2019 (meaning NE only has to pay about 60% of that total) and $6.5 million for next season.
Sanders is 32 and under contract for this year only. He carries a $6 million salary for this year (meaning SF has to pay about 60% of that) but will be a free agent at the end of the year.
Is getting a younger and less expensive receiver under contract for an extra year worth a higher draft pick?
Hey, 10 minutes into this thread I said NE overpaid for Sanu. But BB is a different kind of cat. He's picked up plenty of guys that I thought were never were's let alone has been's and turned them into key contributors. Sanders is better but NE would have trouble fitting him under the salary cap.Just feel like Sanders is much better than Sanu. I think the Falcons would have taken a 3rd rounder for Sanu.... would any other team have offered that? I kind of doubt that, and Atlanta's season is over.
sanu is a far superior blocker.travdogg said:I really want to know how Sanu is worth a 2, and Sanders is essentially worth a 3? In what way has Sanu ever been as good as Sanders?
ETA: This makes the Pats deal look much worse, great move by the 49ers.
+1Stompin' Tom Connors said:Sutton owner here.
Not thrilled with this move.
But it will definitely be great for both the 9ers and Sanders.
Then this would make sense of it.sanu is a far superior blocker.