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timschochet

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Not sure how long this forum will last. Maybe this thread will help. 

I love you guys. I really do. You’re a pleasure to discuss issues with: almost everyone I have  encountered here, be they liberal or conservative, Trump supporter or never Trumper, libertarian or socialist or anarchist, has struck me as decent and honorable and smart. 

I’m sending good thoughts to all of you this morning. ❤️ 

 
You're still not getting my Bud Light.

That's where my mind went with this, but I do enjoy the discussions that go on here. It's mostly civil, insults aren't really tolerated(found that out the hard way once, but learned my lesson in a hurry), and we can actually work out some issues. Now only if the government did work, we might have something here.

 
I"m seeing that face that you make when you're talking about the death of a guy that you really didn't care for much when he was alive.

Or....when you're kinda forced to make up with your sibling or risk a trip to get ice cream.

 
As I said in the other thread Tim...you take more abuse than other people and keep on going.  Pretty admirable that you have not really lashed out.  Also like that you appreciate when I quote and link to clips of the West Wing (Im sad its going off of netflix...)

I admire that and posters like Saints who have a ton of patience with things thrown at them and continue to just show what they know and post information and links to things to let people read and decide.

Unfortunately...not all of us (and I mean me) are wired that way.  I enjoy trying to be better each and every day.  I do that in my life as much as possible away from the board too.  How can I be better today?  Does that mean going for a run...not grabbing that bag of delicious peanut butter m&ms...sitting down with as much patience as possible helping my 6th grader with math homework.  Or trying to get the 15 year old to work on his paper for school.  Its a struggle every day...but I try, as flawed as I may be, to do better.

 
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I"m seeing that face that you make when you're talking about the death of a guy that you really didn't care for much when he was alive.

Or....when you're kinda forced to make up with your sibling or risk a trip to get ice cream.
Sorry that you feel that way. But I love you anyhow Opie! 

Now can we go get the ice cream, please? 

 
I made a pledge never to talk negatively again about other posters. But that doesn’t mean I can’t talk positively about them. So let’s start. 

@HellToupee

I love your sense of humor. I love your shtick! I think you are a very good guy and you generally look at things in a light hearted way which is otherwise often missing around here. I always enjoy reading your posts. Sometimes you disappear for weeks or months from this Forum and then I find I miss you and I am eager for your return. And of course, you root for the greatest NFL football team and you do that from Patriotland which gives you high points in my mind. So well done. 

 
Just got done golfing this morning.  There were a bunch of ducks.  Ducks are cute, I’d like some in the back yard just waddling around.  ‘Bout to shower up and then take my little girl to SeaWorld for their Halloween event.  Guess what, ducks there too!

Anywho, *high five* for everyone is what I’m getting at here.  

 
Happy Saturday. Looking forward to watching my 10 year old play Softball this afternoon. She's the catcher and has been playing since she was 4 and loves the game. Hope you all have something you enjoy to do this weekend.

 
@GoBirds

Next to @HellToupee you’re definitely the most jovial and light hearted of the pro-Trump crowd. You’re also quite matter of fact and honest about what you believe the President’s strengths and weaknesses are and I really appreciate that. 

One of the main reasons I stopped posting in the Trump2020 thread was because of something you wrote there; you were teasing some of us for being unable to stay away from that thread, which was designed to be a positive place for Trump supporters. You made the point that even though there were multiple threads criticizing Trump, we couldn’t let you guys have one thread to celebrate what you believed to be his positive achievements- we had to come in a tear it down. Of course you weren’t the only pro-Trump person to make this point but you did it in such a good natured, well-reasoned manner, that it got to me. And I told myself: he’s right; why do I need to do this? I can argue the merits of the President with those who want to discuss it with me; why do I need to knock these guys down? And so I stopped, though my explanation for doing so at the time was a little more negative towards Trump supporters than it should it been; I was trying to rationalize my previous poor behavior. 

In any case. I appreciate your posts and your honesty in this forum. 

 
my link

no idea where it ranks in @krista4 list  :shrug:
#43

This song has a great backstory.

43.  All You Need Is Love (single, 1967)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

From @OrtonToOlsen:  "Love the lyrics and vocals but the ‘bun duh dunna dun’ really detracts from everything else."  For once, I agree with him on something (other than cats)!  I realize I've gone on and on about John's vocal in a variety of songs, but for some reason this is my favorite vocal from him.  It's not flashy or difficult like "Twist & Shout" or some of the others, but the tone in his singing here does it for me.  His voice sounds sleepy but sincere, and incredibly fluid and hypnotic; it almost feels like a lullaby to me, and I'm entranced by it.  The lyrics are lovely; Ringo summed them up as, "It was for love and bloody peace.  It was a fabulous time.  I even get excited now when I realize that's what it was for:  Peace and love, people putting flowers in guns."  What I don't like in the song, and I dislike it enough to take this from a top 20 down to here, is the simplistic chorus and especially the "bun duh dunna dun."  It sounds cheesy, circus-y, and brings the song down.

Setting that aside, there's so much else to love, including the impressive production that I'll cover below.  With respect to the song itself, I love to try to keep time through the frequent tempo changes and especially love tapping out those alternating 4/4, 3/4 beats in the intro and the verses.  There's something about that dropped note that's charming; I'm just glad I wasn't Ringo.   I'm also a huge fan of Fifth Beatle George Martin's arrangement on this; starting with La Marseillaise (French national anthem) to open, through the coda with, among others, snippets of "Greensleeves" and "In the Mood," along with a bit of one of the Brandenburg concertos, the orchestration is outstanding.  Speaking of that coda, I love the sonic cornucopiaTM of it.  

While I said my write-ups might be truncated for a bit, the background of this song's coming to be is too important and interesting to skip.  Might sound quaint now, but the song was written for what was a very big deal at the time:  the first live international satellite television broadcast, a BBC show called Our World.  More than 20 countries were scheduled to participate, and the Beatles were selected to represent Great Britain in the "Artistic Excellence" portion of the show, much to their...indifference.  Brian Epstein showed up to the studio during one of the Sgt. Pepper's recordings, greatly excited to announce this to the lads, but he was met with yawns.  It didn't get better for him, as, when pressed by Epstein to be more enthused, John spoke for the group by telling him, "that's what you get for committing us to doing something without asking us first."  It seemed the Beatles saw this as a violation of their desire not to perform live anymore, but John unenthusiastically agreed that he'd write a song for it.

Several weeks later, Paul casually asked John if he'd written anything yet, and realizing that they had only a couple of weeks to prepare, John got down to writing the song.  The band recorded some backing tracks, including George on a violin(!), but when it came to the vocal, John boldly declared that he would not lip-sync but instead would do the lead vocal live.  Not to be outdone, Paul then stated that he would also play the bass live, and the two of them together talked George into performing a live guitar solo as well.  Luckily for Ringo, due to technical issues of microphone seepage from the orchestra that would be playing, the drums would have to be pre-recorded, though a last-minute decision did allow him to do a live version of the snare drum roll at the beginning.  Though the backing vocals were also pre-recorded, Paul was given a live mic for the show for the ad libs you hear at the end of the song.

The night of the broadcast arrived, and in addition to the Beatles and their wives and girlfriends, a variety of friends were enlisted to sit on the floor surrounding the band while it performed, including usual suspects Mick Jagger, Eric Clapton, Marianne Faithfull, Keith Moon, Graham Nash, and Keith Richards.  John was visibly nervous, perhaps because he couldn't use his lyric sheet as he normally would.  The broadcasters had decided to station an additional camera in the control booth, and when the broadcast began about 40 seconds early, they nearly caught George Martin and Geoff Emerick in a Scotch toast; they had to scramble madly to hide the bottle and glasses from the camera.  Another mad dash was then made to get the pre-recorded tape spooled back to its correct spot to start the song.  But somehow, despite everything that could go wrong with a live broadcast, everyone pulled it off!  As mentioned, John's vocal is astounding, despite the fact he forgot to take his chewing gum out before they started and he did flub a couple of lyrics.  The orchestra hit all its marks perfectly.  George pulled off the guitar solo he'd been so nervous about, though he did hit an off note or two starting ~1:26.   Most amazingly, there were no technical glitches with the music, but the broadcast did lose video for a few seconds.

The song was then rushed into the studio for some overdubbing in order to release the single, but not much had to be done to it.  John redid two lines of flubbed vocal, and Ringo replaced the snare roll they'd made a last-minute decision to perform live.  A "wobble" was added to the end of George's solo to mask the bad last couple of notes.  Most people might not have even realized the single version wasn't precisely the same as the version they'd watched on TV a couple of weeks prior.

(By the way, for some reason I previously had this listed under Yellow Submarine.  While it was used on that as well as Magical Mystery Tour, based on how I've listed other songs this should probably be under the "Singles, etc." category.)

Mr. krista:  "Nice job. All-star cast.  I think one needs other things – food, shelter.  Love is definitely up there.  You need love before you need, say, a Nintendo 64.  But there are other things I’d put above love. So I disagree with the lyrical premise."

Suggested covers:  Nothing can replace that John vocal for me, but if you're Elvis Costello, you can surely come close.  Surprised to like this one, but I enjoyed their incorporation of other Beatles's motifs:  Echo & the Bunnymen.  Daniel Johnston gets to the heart of the matter.

 
timschochet said:
Sorry that you feel that way. But I love you anyhow Opie! 

Now can we go get the ice cream, please? 
No Tim, actually you don't.

You hate what I stand for and you hate that I voted against your candidate in 2016 and will do it again in 2020.
You hate what I want for America.
You wish that I would either go away or at least, capitulate.

But, I am sure that outside of politics, you and I do share some common ground.

 
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No Tim, actually you don't.

You hate what I stand for and you hate that I voted against your candidate in 2016 and will do it again in 2020.
You hate what I want for America.
You wish that I would either go away or at least, capitulate.

But, I am sure that outside of politics, you and I do share some common ground.
You're harshing the mellow in here.

 
No Tim, actually you don't.

You hate what I stand for and you hate that I voted against your candidate in 2016 and will do it again in 2020.
You hate what I want for America.
You wish that I would either go away or at least, capitulate.

But, I am sure that outside of politics, you and I do share some common ground.
Nah. You misunderstand me. Probably I misunderstand you too. Let’s go over it. 

1. I don’t think I hate what you stand for. I probably disagree with a lot of it. But hatred is pretty strong- I reserve that for bigots, Nazis, dictators, etc. I doubt you’re for any of that. 

2. I certainly don’t hate that you voted against  my candidate. Honestly I couldn’t care less about that. Vote for whomever you want. Vote for Trump if you truly believe he is what’s best for this country. If that’s your sincere conviction I wouldn’t want you to do anything else and I would never hate you for that. 

3. I’m not sure what you want for America. As a general rule I respect what most conservatives want for America. Nationalists less so. 

But underlying the specifics which I suspect we will disagree on, if what you want, ultimately, is a free and prosperous America that will be sustained for our children and grandchildren, then we have the exact same goals. We simply disagree on the best way to achieve them. And that’s OK because in the end we’re rooting for the same team. 

4. I certainly don’t wish you’d go away. In fact quite the opposite: I think that opposing views is one of the great strengths of American society. I would be quite concerned if I lived in a country where most people agreed with me (partly because I’m always unsure about the rightness of my specific positions.) You’re right that on certain issues I probably wish you would capitulate. But since I know you won’t my side will simply have to beat yours. And such victories on either side will never be permanent. 

 
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Nah. You misunderstand me. Probably I misunderstand you too. Let’s go over it. 

1. I don’t think I hate what you stand for. I probably disagree with a lot of it. But hatred is pretty strong- I reserve that for bigots, Nazis, dictators, etc. I doubt you’re for any of that. 

2. I certainly don’t hate that you voted against  my candidate. Honestly I couldn’t care less about that. Vote for whomever you want. Vote for Trump if you truly believe he is what’s best for this country. If that’s your sincere conviction I wouldn’t want you to do anything else and I would never hate you for that. 

3. I’m not sure what you want for America. As a general rule I respect what most conservatives want for America. Nationalists less so. 

But underlying the specifics which I suspect we will disagree on, if what you want, ultimately, is a free and prosperous America that will be sustained for our children and grandchildren, then we have the exact same goals. We simply disagree on the best way to achieve them. And that’s OK because in the end we’re rooting for the same team. 

4. I certainly don’t wish you’d go away. In fact quite the opposite: I think that opposing views is one of the great strengths of American society. I would be quite concerned if I lived in a country where most people agreed with me (partly because I’m always unsure about the rightness of my specific positions.) You’re right that on certain issues I probably wish you would capitulate. But since I know you won’t my side will simply have to beat yours. And such victories on either side will never be permanent. 
I agree with everything you said.

However, the bolded words is what is pissing off a lot of people on the Right.

You are correct....your candidate will simply have to beat mine....at the ballot box....NOT through through the political theater taking place in Congress today.

Rep. Al Green summed up what is taking place right now.... "I'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president, he will get re-elected". 

If the Left came up with something other than racial division and promising everything to everybody, basically trying to buy the White House with money we could never possibly compile, then maybe they could defeat President Trump at the polls. 

As it stands now, gun haters have been promised the confiscation of AR15s, the blacks are being promised reparations for never being a slave, LBGTQ-EIEIO have been promised a complete overhaul of the English language, ecologists have been promised a return to the stone age at no to cost to their quality of life, non-American citizens are promised no immigration laws to impede their trek north, the poor have been promised money from the rich, and millennials who have taken on debt at their own request, have been promised a write-off of that debt.

What the Left is not promising is more manufacturing jobs, lower unemployment, an end to bad trade deals, the defeat of ISIS, control of the borders, and overall economic prosperity.

A Democratic candidate can run on that with 100% assistance from the MSM.
Defeat President Trump on election day....and all will be well with the ANTIFA protesters.

 
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I agree with everything you said.

However, the bolded words is what is pissing off a lot of people on the Right.

You are correct....your candidate will simply have to beat mine....at the ballot box....NOT through through the political theater taking place in Congress today.

Rep. Al Green summed up what is taking place right now.... "I'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president, he will get re-elected". 

If the Left came up with something other than racial division and promising everything to everybody, basically trying to buy the White House with money we could never possibly compile, then maybe they could defeat President Trump at the polls. 

As it stands now, gun haters have been promised the confiscation of AR15s, the blacks are being promised reparations for never being a slave, LBGTQ-EIEIO have been promised a complete overhaul of the English language, ecologists have been promised a return to the stone age at no to cost to their quality of life, non-American citizens are promised no immigration laws to impede their trek north, the poor have been promised money from the rich, and millennials who have taken on debt at their own request, have been promised a write-off of that debt.

What the Left is not promising is more manufacturing jobs, lower unemployment, an end to bad trade deals, the defeat of ISIS, control of the borders, and overall economic prosperity.

A Democratic candidate can run on that with 100% assistance from the MSM.
Defeat President Trump on election day....and all will be well with the ANTIFA protesters.
A few thoughts:

If Trump were to get impeached and removed from office it would have been supported by both parties.

Part of politics is playing up division. It’s unfortunate, ugly part of the process. Trump has certainly done his part here. 

All candidates promise and run on all the things you asked for towards the end of your posts (jobs, lower unemployment, defeat ISIS, etc).

ETA: nice thoughts 

 
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I agree with everything you said.

However, the bolded words is what is pissing off a lot of people on the Right.

You are correct....your candidate will simply have to beat mine....at the ballot box....NOT through through the political theater taking place in Congress today.
I’m not going to respond to your discussion of issues at the moment- if you’d like we can discuss those later in threads devoted to them. But I did want to discuss this point: 

I do understand what you’re saying here. But I’d like you to understand this from my perspective: I want to see Donald Trump impeached and remove from office not for political reasons,  but because with regard to Ukraine I truly believe he committed a high crime that warrants his removal. While I can’t speak for all of those in favor of impeachment and removal, I believe that most of those I encounter feel the same as I do. This is really important and I truly hope you understand it: you can disagree with our analysis. You can disagree that Trump needs to be removed. But our motives are honest. 

I also want to point out that in the unlikely event that Trump is removed, he will he replaced by Mike Pence, and not by a Democrat. So a successful impeachment is never going to be a substitute for an election. 

 
timschochet said:
Not sure how long this forum will last. Maybe this thread will help. 

I love you guys. I really do. You’re a pleasure to discuss issues with: almost everyone I have  encountered here, be they liberal or conservative, Trump supporter or never Trumper, libertarian or socialist or anarchist, has struck me as decent and honorable and smart. 

I’m sending good thoughts to all of you this morning. ❤️ 
Now if you can only spread this to other Debbie downers.

 
@GoBirds

Next to @HellToupee you’re definitely the most jovial and light hearted of the pro-Trump crowd. You’re also quite matter of fact and honest about what you believe the President’s strengths and weaknesses are and I really appreciate that. 

One of the main reasons I stopped posting in the Trump2020 thread was because of something you wrote there; you were teasing some of us for being unable to stay away from that thread, which was designed to be a positive place for Trump supporters. You made the point that even though there were multiple threads criticizing Trump, we couldn’t let you guys have one thread to celebrate what you believed to be his positive achievements- we had to come in a tear it down. Of course you weren’t the only pro-Trump person to make this point but you did it in such a good natured, well-reasoned manner, that it got to me. And I told myself: he’s right; why do I need to do this? I can argue the merits of the President with those who want to discuss it with me; why do I need to knock these guys down? And so I stopped, though my explanation for doing so at the time was a little more negative towards Trump supporters than it should it been; I was trying to rationalize my previous poor behavior. 

In any case. I appreciate your posts and your honesty in this forum. 
Tim,

I appreciate your efforts with this, while we are on different pages politically you are clearly a good dude I could grab a beer with anytime and as long as we didn’t talk politics I’m sure would be great ha. Unfortunately there’s a reason people say never discuss politics or religion.....we’ve had these awakenings in here before where everyone is going to act better that quickly wear off and the challenge to Sho/Jon etc etc. It always ends up back in the same place with childish attacks and insults. Some offer value like yourself, SID, a couple other I enjoy getting perspective from but for every good one there you have to sift through 10 that can’t control themselves with the same lame insults or manufactured outrage.  

There is no good endgame game to this....there never is with politics. It can’t be moderated fairly  and you alienate loyal customers all from a sub forum that really isn’t necessary. If you don’t kill it now what happens next year if Trump wins, this place will be completely unhinged and further out of control. If he loses will posters like myself that think Biden types are hot garbage be given the same sub forum and long leash to post thousands of threads about how brutal he is and bash endlessly without real moderation? I think we know that answer as we are the minority on this board. There’s just no end game that is positive, it’s been proven the majority can’t handle it. 

 
Tim,

I appreciate your efforts with this, while we are on different pages politically you are clearly a good dude I could grab a beer with anytime and as long as we didn’t talk politics I’m sure would be great ha. Unfortunately there’s a reason people say never discuss politics or religion.....we’ve had these awakenings in here before where everyone is going to act better that quickly wear off and the challenge to Sho/Jon etc etc. It always ends up back in the same place with childish attacks and insults. Some offer value like yourself, SID, a couple other I enjoy getting perspective from but for every good one there you have to sift through 10 that can’t control themselves with the same lame insults or manufactured outrage.  

There is no good endgame game to this....there never is with politics. It can’t be moderated fairly  and you alienate loyal customers all from a sub forum that really isn’t necessary. If you don’t kill it now what happens next year if Trump wins, this place will be completely unhinged and further out of control. If he loses will posters like myself that think Biden types are hot garbage be given the same sub forum and long leash to post thousands of threads about how brutal he is and bash endlessly without real moderation? I think we know that answer as we are the minority on this board. There’s just no end game that is positive, it’s been proven the majority can’t handle it. 
Respectfully I disagree. 

You know, it’s certainly true that things are divisive right now in our country and this forum reflects it (which is one main reason I would argue that @Joe Bryant shouldn’t kill it, because all we’re doing here is no different from the rest of society, and in fact we’re arguably a lot more polite about it.) But it’s not nearly as divisive as, say the 1960s. There is no war, no military draft, no large civil rights movement demanding major changes. If those of us who are concerned about climate change, computerization, and our national debt are correct about the future, we may face catastrophic conditions in the years to come, and a large part of the divisiveness now is caused by anxiety about the future IMO, but the fact is we don’t face those conditions now. Things are reasonably good in our society. 

What I’m trying to say here is that, while you might be correct, it’s not inevitable. We all can behave more civil towards each other. I strongly strongly believe that those among us who are only interested in destroying this forum by ratcheting things up are a tiny minority. The vast majority of us here on all sides want to keep this going and don’t intend to be rude to others. 

As far as your last point- whether or not Trump wins or loses the election, the sun is going to come up the next morning. Most of us will still have to go to work. Our loved ones and our problems will still be there. We’ll deal with it. 

 
Respectfully I disagree. 

You know, it’s certainly true that things are divisive right now in our country and this forum reflects it (which is one main reason I would argue that @Joe Bryant shouldn’t kill it, because all we’re doing here is no different from the rest of society, and in fact we’re arguably a lot more polite about it.) But it’s not nearly as divisive as, say the 1960s. There is no war, no military draft, no large civil rights movement demanding major changes. If those of us who are concerned about climate change, computerization, and our national debt are correct about the future, we may face catastrophic conditions in the years to come, and a large part of the divisiveness now is caused by anxiety about the future IMO, but the fact is we don’t face those conditions now. Things are reasonably good in our society

What I’m trying to say here is that, while you might be correct, it’s not inevitable. We all can behave more civil towards each other. I strongly strongly believe that those among us who are only interested in destroying this forum by ratcheting things up are a tiny minority. The vast majority of us here on all sides want to keep this going and don’t intend to be rude to others. 

As far as your last point- whether or not Trump wins or loses the election, the sun is going to come up the next morning. Most of us will still have to go to work. Our loved ones and our problems will still be there. We’ll deal with it. 
Tim,

I agree with you things are reasonably good in our society which makes the behavior in here even more concerning. While I agree there are some things to be concerned about I don’t think insulting the other side in a chat room is addressing/solving these concerns in society at all. Can those in here behave more civil? It’s been 3 years and doesn’t look like it. Just hard to see how any positives outweigh the negatives as it has to be a massive headache for Joe and team and the end result is more division amongst sides.  

Appreciate the effort regardless , have a good weekend buddy. 

 
Tim,

I agree with you things are reasonably good in our society which makes the behavior in here even more concerning. While I agree there are some things to be concerned about I don’t think insulting the other side in a chat room is addressing/solving these concerns in society at all. Can those in here behave more civil? It’s been 3 years and doesn’t look like it. Just hard to see how any positives outweigh the negatives as it has to be a massive headache for Joe and team and the end result is more division amongst sides.  

Appreciate the effort regardless , have a good weekend buddy. 
I agree with you and Tim - meaning we can make things better and there are people who won’t change - the mods need to give extended TOs to those folks - the replies of “Don’t” or “you two stop” by the mods should just become immediate suspensions.  I think some posters facing the possibility of being banned will clean up their act - if they don’t then that’s on them and they should get rid of them for the sake of the rest of us who want to be here.

I'm not going to get all touchy feely like Tim ;)  but I do love these forums - the amount of time I’ve spent here the last 10-15 years would probably shock me.  I for one will do everything I can to help keep this around because quite frankly I would be sad if it were gone.

 
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Tim,

I appreciate your efforts with this, while we are on different pages politically you are clearly a good dude I could grab a beer with anytime and as long as we didn’t talk politics I’m sure would be great ha. Unfortunately there’s a reason people say never discuss politics or religion.....we’ve had these awakenings in here before where everyone is going to act better that quickly wear off and the challenge to Sho/Jon etc etc. It always ends up back in the same place with childish attacks and insults. Some offer value like yourself, SID, a couple other I enjoy getting perspective from but for every good one there you have to sift through 10 that can’t control themselves with the same lame insults or manufactured outrage.  

There is no good endgame game to this....there never is with politics. It can’t be moderated fairly  and you alienate loyal customers all from a sub forum that really isn’t necessary. If you don’t kill it now what happens next year if Trump wins, this place will be completely unhinged and further out of control. If he loses will posters like myself that think Biden types are hot garbage be given the same sub forum and long leash to post thousands of threads about how brutal he is and bash endlessly without real moderation? I think we know that answer as we are the minority on this board. There’s just no end game that is positive, it’s been proven the majority can’t handle it. 
The sad thing here that is totally out of everyone's control is how fast a good thread deteriorates here.  I am not a Trump guy so I never go into the threads the Trumps guys want to be positive.  Yet the same usual suspects who are not Trump guys go in there and try to blow it up just to troll and stir up crap.  Why?

Things may change for an hour or a day but most of these threads eventually will still end up the same way. I guess Joe just has to decide if he wants to put up with it or not.  Because as the cliché says, "It is what it is"

 
when I go to an internet forum, its to get different points of view, hopefully learn something ......... this has been that place

hope your fav college team won this weekend, my Razorbacks performed as expected :(

 
Isn’t there any accountability for ones own reactions? 
Do you know what time it is?   It is 7:00 pm.   We crushed Tech by 40, you should be out there celebrating.  Let me smell your breath.  Not a trace of Dr. Pepper!!!

 
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Do you know what time it is?   It is 7:00 pm.   We crushed Tech by 40, you should be out there celebrating.  Let me smell your breath.  Not a trace of Dr. Pepper!!!
:lol:  I feel like I should know this reference but am not remembering. What is this from?

 
There really are a lot of really sharp people in this forum who have well thought out reasons to support their candidate.... Even if I don't agree.

It's fun to discuss with people like that rather than the Dems good, Trump bad (or vice versa) I find everywhere else.

 
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