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Out of the top 10 or so Democrats still in the race (ones that arguably might have a non-zero chance), which ones would you not vote for?
As an overriding principle, no one gets my vote based on party affiliation. have a year to potentially get on board, but Warren and Sanders are tough sells to me now. I haven't thought to the bottom half because it probably won't matter
Actually, the early leaders for a non-incumbent Dem presidential candidate are typically not who winds up with the nomination.
Also, Democrats won all local contested seats. Again, this is in a strong GOP area.
Would you consider voting for Trump or are you likely a 3rd party voter (or a non-voter)?
This is a similar approach to several people I know who vote R down the line because of two issues: abortion and the 2nd amendment.
And, after all, climate change is a huge issue which can only be addressed by the powers or, and with the cooperation of City Council. Who wants them working on roads, water and light systems, public safety, emergency response, parks and rec, planning and zoning matters when they can work on climate change. What could fall more squarely within their purview.
Our experience is different, I struggle to find any marginally acceptable candidates on either side or in third parties. You are indeed fortunate with the choices you have been presented.
Anyone that says the ‘first job is to get Trump out’. That means voting is an obligation, and that voting against Trump is more operative than exercising any thought about what the person actually stands for.
No, I wouldn’t vote for Trump. I would prefer that an establishment democrat loses to Trump, or that an antiwar progressive beats him, because I think it would further augment a real populist movement in this country, but I wouldn’t vote for him. There’s actually no one running that I’m all that jazzed about supporting, but I’m keeping an open mind.
Yes. I've never had this POV before but I do now. I am pro-choice on abortion, but I have voted for both pro-choice and pro-life candidates in the past and would do so in the future.
Yeah, non-establishment candidates really scare me. They're typically awful IMO. But I would vote for Bernie over Trump if that were the choice. Hopefully it won't be. We need to move away from non-establishment candidates if we can.
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Ds are voting based on hate? With such a large electorate, it's probably possible to find people voting based on hate but I wouldn't think that's a significant percentage in the D camp. Unless you're using "hate" to encompass people who just think Trump's deviation from accepted norms are institutionally bad for our country, those who disagree with his policy positions, those who feel he is too temperamental to reliably execute the office's duties, etc. Is that what you meant?
I don't really understand that position. Republicans have refused to use the Senate to engage in policy on any real level whatsoever - hundreds of bills just tabled and never brought for debate. Democrats are pushing policy like crazy. What policy are the Republicans bringing to the table on really any front? What was the last policy proposal - not just a tweet that said "We will have the best healthcare!" but a real policy proposal - that came out of the Republicans and sounded like a good idea at all?
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You said that "liberal outlets [were] condemning the idea".
I kind of like Dore as I find him entertaining- that last sentence is ridiculous though. Climate change, gun control, M4A, immigration issues, on and on and on. Both sides don’t lack for policy - it’s just both sides hate the policy of the other right now (or mislabel it) and there’s definitely a lot of hate towards Trump.
So narrow-minded. How can you discount programs that call for printing on two sides of the page, encouraging bike to work programs for city employees, dimming the lights at meetings, and passing heartfelt resolutions?
What do you mean by "independent"? I thought I recall you saying Biden was your first choice and Trump was your second. Maybe I don't remember this correctly? Are there other Democrats you'd consider over Trump?
Roadkill really taking one for the team
