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HOT TAKE - Should non-parents pay less property taxes than parents? (1 Viewer)

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As I'm sure is the case in many counties all over the country, a large portion of our property taxes goes to schools/education.

Should property owning parents with children who are attending the schools pay more/less/the same as property owners with no children?

Discuss.

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No.  All of society benefits from public education, whether or not we have kids.  If we go down this path, it opens up a hornet's nest of analyzing who benefits most from different public services.

Also, although I will pay a ridiculous amount in property taxes this year, I still have to send my kids to a catholic school (despite being a non-believer myself) because our city schools suck so badly.

 
What about those who had kids in the school system who graduated and moved on, but the parents still live at the same address?  Do they need to pay for someone else's kids?  They already paid for their own and never received the same benefits as some do today with the advanced technologies.  What's to gain for these fine elderly folks?

 
What about those who had kids in the school system who graduated and moved on, but the parents still live at the same address?  Do they need to pay for someone else's kids?  They already paid for their own and never received the same benefits as some do today with the advanced technologies.  What's to gain for these fine elderly folks?
Did the kids attend schools that were built by the taxes their parents paid and ONLY their parents?

 
Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?

Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?

Did China have it right all along?

 
As I'm sure is the case in many counties all over the country, a large portion of our property taxes goes to schools/education.

Should property owning parents with children who are attending the schools pay more/less/the same as property owners with no children?

Discuss.

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Should law abiding people have to pay taxes for police?

 
Should law abiding people have to pay taxes for police?
Ooohhh, that's a good one but police are needed for everyone.  Besides, a law abiding citizen could break the law at any moment.

The same could be same for a fire.  I've never needed the fire department to come put out a fire but it's a tax that's needed and benefits everyone.

 
I like this idea. You could penalize the property by making it ineligible for the next owners to use that school zone for the same amount of time the previous non-taxpaying owners lived there.
Sounds great!  That would mean non-parents can buy cheaper property!

 
Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?

Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?

Did China have it right all along?
I hope you're pretty.

 
No kids. No plans to ever have them. Dumb idea. All of society benefits from a strong educational system. Not just those receiving the education.
I was going to just say that I prefer to be around less dumb people but this sums it up nicely. 

 
And, since I'm a peacenik and support pacifism fully, I don't want any of my tax dollars going to the military.  

Can we do a la cart taxes like we do with cable TV?
I used to work for the Ways and Means committee of a State Legislature. Inevitably the newspaper would do an a la cart taxes shopping list / zero base budgeting app on their website every year. We would get inundated with all of these “tax plans” that were hilarious. 

 
I think we should cut taxes across the board and privatize education. No need for the government to tell us how to spend our money.

 
As I'm sure is the case in many counties all over the country, a large portion of our property taxes goes to schools/education.

Should property owning parents with children who are attending the schools pay more/less/the same as property owners with no children?

Discuss.

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Better question - how come renters with kids get all the benefit of the schools without having to kick in tax dollars for upkeep of said schools?

 
Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?

Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?

Did China have it right all along?
What if we just killed 3/4 of the population?  Jesus, do you know how much money we'd save?  Everyone gets their own city and their family runs it.  Without having to waste all that money on schools, we'll be able to advance our space program 10x faster than now.

 
Better question - how come renters with kids get all the benefit of the schools without having to kick in tax dollars for upkeep of said schools?
Good point.  Maybe they should be paying higher rent because the landlord is paying more for RE taxes.  That would be up to the landlord, though.

 
Good point.  Maybe they should be paying higher rent because the landlord is paying more for RE taxes.  That would be up to the landlord, though.
My local state representative has suggested doing away with property taxes in favor of a sales tax.  That way, renters have to pay for the schools they use.

 
Sounds great!  That would mean non-parents can buy cheaper property!
In theory, but I doubt your value would appreciate much. Imagine trying to sell a house with 50 years of school tax delinquency. 
Well, that then also knowing you aren't getting full market value for your house (if you decide to try and sell) because you don't have kids.

 
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How does anybody ever even come across this thought? 
My town had a school bond issue on the ballot last year.   Our local schools are overcrowded and deteriorated--things like plumbing not working, roofs leaking, mold, etc.   It takes a 60% vote to pass a bond here.    These arguments about people that have already put their kids through school and people with no kids not having responsibility for the condition of local schools were rampant, and the bond was defeated by 1.5%.

 
Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?

Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?

Did China have it right all along?
Parents hit the roof of the student teacher ratio is in the 20s.  Yet most parts of the world 50 is the minimum.   Maybe focus on how to be more efficient in teaching larger class sizes.  

 
Sure, have everyone pay for education. 

But... let's cut the stupid budgets. Teachers unions should be abolished, entirely. No public sector employees should have unions. Their pensions and contracts need to be slashed. At one point LAUSD teachers were guaranteed like 10% stock market returns on their pensions. A joke. Taxpayers end up having to pay them more than a comparable wage and then get on the hook for retirement better than anyone else on the planet. Gut it.

Then let's cut the spending on junk. I learned fine without an iPad. All you need is a chalkboard, a map, and a stick. Every classroom can get outfitted for $20. We're spending way too much on these spoiled brats that then graduate without knowing how to read or add fractions, but can swipe and kahoot like experts. F 'em. 
I remember I used to be one of those people that would say, "We need to pay teachers more money."  Then I learned how much my teacher friends were making for working 6 hour days for 8 months of the year.  

 
Then let's cut the spending on junk. I learned fine without an iPad. All you need is a chalkboard, a map, and a stick. Every classroom can get outfitted for $20. We're spending way too much on these spoiled brats that then graduate without knowing how to read or add fractions, but can swipe and kahoot like experts. F 'em. 
You're against textbooks?

 
No.  All of society benefits from public education, whether or not we have kids.  If we go down this path, it opens up a hornet's nest of analyzing who benefits most from different public services.

Also, although I will pay a ridiculous amount in property taxes this year, I still have to send my kids to a catholic school (despite being a non-believer myself) because our city schools suck so badly.
So, public healthcare (Medicare) for all?  Same idea.

 
As I'm sure is the case in many counties all over the country, a large portion of our property taxes goes to schools/education.

Should property owning parents with children who are attending the schools pay more/less/the same as property owners with no children?

Discuss.

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fine with me, but only if they exempt private school parents as well.

 
Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?

Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?

Did China have it right all along?
Sure, a lower portion of people working while the current generation turns elderly is a great plan.

 
Meh plenty around for low cost. Growing up in the 80s my textbooks didn't even know how the Vietnam War turned out. I'm sure we can still find those lying around cheap or free.
Yeah, get those back in circulation.  There's not enough Christopher Columbus worship going on the schools these days either.

 
Well, we do have kids that utilized our town's schools. But they didn't take the bus. Or play soccer. Or take French class. Or play an instrument. Or eat school lunches. So we shouldn't have to contribute to transportation services, the soccer coach's salary, paying the music or language teachers, the lunch ladies, or the overpriced food vendors. And while we are at it, our kids didn't need paraprofessionals or reading specialists, didn't receive any special education, pretty much stayed away from the guidance department, and didn't take driver's ed. Heck, they just installed water fountains and our kids would never drink water. So yeah, we should get a tax credit!

 

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