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No I would never think that this is cheating, but you learned a lesson that you put players that are questionable to play in the flex. Thursday games can screw things up.Godsbrother said:
I think I found the root of your issue.
You need to always have 1-2 kickers on your roster in my CBS league, so this couldn't happen in my league. You could add one before 12:55 Sunday.
I learned this lesson few weeks ago with a surprise last-minute scratch, Robert Woods, who played Sunday night.No I would never think that this is cheating, but you learned a lesson that you put players that are questionable to play in the flex. Thursday games can screw things up.
Hopefully the beer ended up great!
that's a weird one. only time this should happen is if all of your starting lineup and transactions lock before the thursday game, which you already said that's not the case. sounds like a bug, commish should reset this for you.
I'm the commish, he said I should get a zero because I had an illegal lineup on Thursday (even though rosters don't lock). Same guy was upset the week before because in 15 years in the league he didn't realize he couldn't add a player after 12:55 on Sunday.
there you have it, gotta love owners who play the "i didn't know" card yet make a claim based on "rules" that they didn't know existed. this is straight forward CBS error imo. i mean, i get where he's coming from, but ask him what he thinks "rosters lock at xxxx time" means and ask him to put in writing what he thinks the rule is around this situation. that should end the discussion.
I've played CBS in my main two leagues for 13 seasons. I am actually a little surprised that the software even allowed an illegal lineup. I thought it would simply block the swap to Kirk and make you keep your last legal lineup. Learned something in this thread today.
He had to have done this before the Raiders game, at least 5 minutes before Jacobs locks in. Assuming the setting is 5 minutes before each player's game, you can swap out any player whose game hasn't started yet with any player on your bench whose game hasn't started yet. that rb/wr/flex positioning really depends on league setup and that part gets quite tricky.
All the time. I can't pick up a 3rd kicker or drop my only kicker for a position player. I guess it stops hoarding.
The issue wasn't that Jacobs was locked in at the time I was trying to make him inactive. The problem was that Montgomery was locked in at flex on Thursday. I assumed (incorrectly) that CBS would allow me to move Montgomery to RB and put in a receiver that hadn't played yet into Flex. To me it is odd that the software would consider Flex as a position.
Obviously I screwed up the flex thing but to me it was due to a limitation of the software. Still as I said there was nothing on the line, I reverted the lineup back, and fined myself $10 for the illegal roster even though my roster as it stands is legal.
Yeah it one of those things that there should be a rule ahead of time to clarify but you don't always anticipate those. Fortunately it wasn't for the playoffs. Good luck.
So if u left Jacobs in even though he was inactive, its a legal lineup, right? So you just have a lineup with a RB who's gonna get you zero, which sucks, but not illegal.....I don't play on CBS....
should take the fine back, but i guess it's subjective. I mean, the week is still going till tonight's game anyway and you can't get more points out of this even if you tried.
that's why i think this isn't a CBS problem, it's a flex thing.
True datI'd say it wasn't a software functionality issue, it was an issue of the user understanding the software
I reverted to my original lineup which has Jacob as a starting RB so it is currently legal
I see. I was saying you should've picked someone off the wire, but that wasn't an option. Certainly something to try to change for next year in your league. Waivers should 100% be open for players who haven't played yet.
Well considering I wrote the rules I don't think that was the case. The intention of the rule is to allow you to play either RB, WR, or TE as a flex. It is how CBS implements FLEX that got me into trouble and that is my fault.
Every site I am aware of locks the player at their lineup position once that players game starts. Flex is a lineup position. So even though you can play two RB's and Montgomery is a RB once he locks at whatever position he is in (flex being a lineup position) so you cannot move him. I would say he should stay in that spot.I'd say it wasn't a software functionality issue, it was an issue of the user understanding the software
I think you're letting the lack of functionality, or oversight, of the software design dictate your rules/thinking. The intent of the flex is to provide roster flexibility. Moving a player to another slot could be part of that flexibility.
Honestly thought there might be something fishy with this situation when you first posted it.
We can't let the bolded simply slip by without notice or comment. Now THAT is some seriously hardcore, cut-throat, paranoiac, just-over-the-border-of-insanity levels of competitiveness!
Yes. Flex, unlike RB, WR, TE, isn't a real football position it is just there to let you give some flexibility to your starting lineup. The only strategy added by making Flex a locked position is "make sure you put your latest starting flex-eligible player at the flex. position" . Seems kind of dumb to me but live and learn.
its a starting roster spot. once a player plays in a roster spot... the roster spot is locked. why should flex be treated any differently than the other 8 or 9 roster spots? your LM could have chosen to not have a flex position but flex makes leagues more fun opens more trading possibilities etc... once a RB starts you cant swap in another RB in his place... flex is important as it makes managing your team easier vs. a rigid 2rb3wr setup. but it is ultimately just a starting roster position..... so it's your job as manager to fully utilize the potential of the flex by making sure early game players fill in at their actual position. the only benefit to letting flex be treated the way you people want it to be treated is to give bad managers a chance to redeem poor managing.
Because flex is not a real football position, it can be RB/WR or TE.
FF isn't real football. There are games you can play with rosters/lineups if you don't lock all lineup spots. By locking each lineup position (flex is a lineup position) you minimize grey areas and keep things as black and white as possible.
This.
Of course FF isn't real football but the definition of the flex is RB/WR/TE.
Even this "strategy" is necessitated by software limitations. The purpose of the flex is to field teams with varying roster composition. Moving a player to/from flex should NOT be an issue. Bottom line, you're still fielding a team compliant with your starting requirements.
Agreed. I don't get why there is even a "FLEX" position. The software shouldn't care as long as my starting lineup complies with the correct format. Actually it might be the way I have CBS configured, i'll look into it over the holidays after the season is overArodin said:
Pretty sure that's just how CBS does it. Would love to get off it, but too many other owners want to stay on it simply because "that's what we've always used".
My opinion: if you burn your flex on a Thursday that’s on you. Lesson learned- make your flex your last player at the position to kick off. You should have eaten a 0 or been forced to pick up a rb with a late kickoff to plug in.
