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Unfortunately you can’t add all the players Chicago can’t sign over the next 5 years.Exactly, add in Trent Brown to the mix because if he had to pay Mack we couldn't have gotten him.
Unfortunately you can’t add all the players Chicago can’t sign over the next 5 years.Exactly, add in Trent Brown to the mix because if he had to pay Mack we couldn't have gotten him.
That is the Raiders narrative. Mack really didn’t have choice.. They could have franchised him. The team caved.One said:You’re missing 2 HUGE things. 1. Paying Mack and 2. He didn’t want to come back.
Sorry for quoting my own post, but I'm an idiot.I read Mayock say we have to get faster because our division has offenses with guys like Hill. [ETA to add the actual quote I read: "When you’re in the division we’re in and you look at Kansas City and you look at what they have on offense and what their explosion looks like, we needed to get faster.”]
Instead of seemingly seem like he is trying to mold the Raiders into an offense like the Chiefs, would rather him have say that Ruggs fits our system and personnel and what we are trying to do the most.
And what is the one HUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between Baltimore and KC and their "explosive" and "pile on points" offense and the Raiders' more pedestrian production?Even the best Ds had trouble slowing up the Chiefs' explosive offense. I think BAL had the same advantage - they just piled on points.
The way to beat these teams that are the cream of the AFC isn't with the best D, but with more firepower on O to match step for step.
No question that they added firepower. We should see more dynamic play out of the offense. But I am curious what is put up look like? Obviously it isn't completion percentage, yardage, TD/INT ratio, etc. Can we agree on what that looks like now?And what is the one HUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between Baltimore and KC and their "explosive" and "pile on points" offense and the Raiders' more pedestrian production?
This season is put up or shut up time for Derek Carr and all his backers.
It means those things, but it also means being more aggressive and scoring more points. I hope he can put it all together.No question that they added firepower. We should see more dynamic play out of the offense. But I am curious what is put up look like? Obviously it isn't completion percentage, yardage, TD/INT ratio, etc. Can we agree on what that looks like now?
All day.I have been a Raider fan since 1983. I have suffered as much as any fan.
#### being bitter, I am excited.
For Baltimore, the big difference was having a QB that was 6th overall in rushing.And what is the one HUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between Baltimore and KC and their "explosive" and "pile on points" offense and the Raiders' more pedestrian production?
This season is put up or shut up time for Derek Carr and all his backers.
And what is the one HUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between Baltimore and KC and their "explosive" and "pile on points" offense and the Raiders' more pedestrian production?
This season is put up or shut up time for Derek Carr and all his backers.
Icon, succinctly, and Stompin' Tom, not quite as succinctly, answered about as well as I could. I'd just add keep plays alive more with his feet, not give up on plays too early, not be seemingly locked in on one receiver (especially now with what appears to be a myriad of improved weapons and Ruggs to open things up). And I'd sacrifice some percentage and TD/INT ratio to make some plays downfield.No question that they added firepower. We should see more dynamic play out of the offense. But I am curious what is put up look like? Obviously it isn't completion percentage, yardage, TD/INT ratio, etc. Can we agree on what that looks like now?
The reasons for the slow time may be good but showing up at the combine with back and hammy issues is concerning. Hopefully, he gets and stays healthy so we see what we have when football starts up this year.I am really liking the Arnette pick the more I look into it.
Apparently he played with a broken bone in his hand.
Also, per Cris Carter (who has a close relationship with him) that he had a hamstring and back issue at the combine. That does explain why I keep seeing scouting reports that say something along the lines of "his tape is good but his 40 was 4.56" AND apparently he was faster than Terry McLaurin as a red shirt sophomore (McLaurin posted a 4.35 40 at the combine in 2019).
Really the only consistent knock I see on him from various scouting reports is the 40 time. That may have been a blessing for us in that he fell to us. It also makes sense because I know that Mayock devalues combine measurable and is more concerned with the tap the player has where as a lot of non-NFL 'experts' really focus on those measures we get. High 40 drives their value up. Low 40 drives it down.
There is no doubt about it, they want to do a lot of press coverage both of those CB's excelled at press and harassing WR's at the line. They are both fighters.
ApparentlyI am really liking the Arnette pick the more I look into it.
Apparently he played with a broken bone in his hand.
Have an Ohio State friend who emailed me to say "Toughest guy on the team. Played with broken hand and played opposite the #3 pick, so he got challenged a lot...did a fantastic job. You'll like him a lot. Not afraid to hit either!!"
I think my (re-posted) last post speaks to his "I refuse to not show up and compete" attitude and likely a reason why there was no keeping him away m the combine.The reasons for the slow time may be good but showing up at the combine with back and hammy issues is concerning. Hopefully, he gets and stays healthy so we see what we have when football starts up this year.
I love the mental frame of mind on that but then that needs to managed by someone who knows when to tell him to shut it down.I think my (re-posted) last post speaks to his "I refuse to not show up and compete" attitude and likely a reason why there was no keeping him away m the combine.
Better this than the opposite. Maybe him and Abrams will transform the defensive backfield in a strength, both physically and mentally.I love the mental frame of mind on that but then that needs to managed by someone who knows when to tell him to shut it down.
And Amik! Do not sleep on the Honey Badger 2.0!!Better this than the opposite. Maybe him and Abrams will transform the defensive backfield in a strength, both physically and mentally.
####, what do I know. Just win, baby!
Wolverine.And Amik! Do not sleep on the Honey Badger 2.0!!
He gives up height against most WRs and will give up a lot of height against many. He has the skills though. The Raiders certainly tried to improve the secondary. Can’t wait to see how this works out.And Amik! Do not sleep on the Honey Badger 2.0!!
At the biggest job interview of your life is not the time to shut it down. Just like at a playoff game or win-to-get-in game. I want these guys on my team.I love the mental frame of mind on that but then that needs to managed by someone who knows when to tell him to shut it down.
I don’t follow the Pats at all (besides universally hating them since the Tuck Rule) but this seems to be the way the Pats built a dynasty. More about character and "fit" than best athlete or physical specimen. I don’t know, maybe some folks with more knowledge of the Pats can see if my parallel holds any water.I've been skeptical of Gruden and Mayock "building a team based on character" instead of potentially focusing talent and team fit. Sometimes it seemed we were looking for and weighting more heavily a sob story in a player's past that showed them overcome adversity in their lives, that they needed a second chance, etc. over pure BPA skill on the field.
We have yet to see it fully blossom, but I have come around to the way Gruden and Mayock are thinking about this. Beyond the fulffier aspects of it, character matters in building cohesive team chemistry. It's something we've lacked for years -- a shared identity, accountability, and everyone acting as a leader and holding each other to a high bar.
The more I see the complete turnaround in tenor and tone from vets like Incognito who have become true team leaders; the more I hear guys like Crosby, Ferrell, Renfrow, Abram, and others speak; and now listening to Arnette and other draft picks -- the more I think that in addition to raw individual talent, character may actually really help drive success.
It sets a tone and a culture for the entire team. You can build around core foundational leaders --vets and rooks alike -- who walk, talk, and breathe teamwork and accountability, who can help support each other as a team, and who stand tall and defend what it means to be a Raider. We see this in the ways guys came together so readily and easily (Salt & Pepa!), and in how excited they get for each other on the field.
The phrase "Commitment to Excellence" used to mean something. Something much more than simple winning.
And I love how we're purposefully rebuilding around character to recapture this commitment and forge an identity and culture.
FWIW, I never got the feeling the Pats has any other culture besides BB's "My way or the highway." Always seemed more geared towards fear than camaraderie. Winning and success certainly helps build thatI don’t follow the Pats at all (besides universally hating them since the Tuck Rule) but this seems to be the way the Pats built a dynasty. More about character and "fit" than best athlete or physical specimen. I don’t know, maybe some folks with more knowledge of the Pats can see if my parallel holds any water.
I agree to this. You have had a history of players that have bought into the Cheatriot Way. (it appears that that has worn down now though as it looks like Brady left because of Belicheat and Gronk retired because of it as well) Once you have an established culture and really bring back "Commitment to Excellence" as not a slogan but how the organization operates then you can do as the Cheatriots did and bring in guys that may not fit that mold (perhaps more accurate to say that help build that mold?) but the talent is willing to follow the mold because of the organizational culture that has been built there.I don’t follow the Pats at all (besides universally hating them since the Tuck Rule) but this seems to be the way the Pats built a dynasty. More about character and "fit" than best athlete or physical specimen. I don’t know, maybe some folks with more knowledge of the Pats can see if my parallel holds any water.
Either way, liking Mayock and Gruden's approach for the most part, and benefit of the doubt on whether this years draft picks work out.
There is always culture in an organization. I think it has 'worked' for a number of years because they won. The players were bought in and they players they brought in were peer pressured to accept the 'Patriot Way'. I mean, that damn slogan is a hallmark of branding your organizational culture. Branding helps you communicate in easily understood ways of what is expected of you if you are a part of that organization. I agree with you that the 'Patriot Way' is a nice translation to "do it like Belicheat wants"FWIW, I never got the feeling the Pats has any other culture besides BB's "My way or the highway." Always seemed more geared towards fear than camaraderie. Winning and success certainly helps build that
Not dismissing any existence of culture on the Pats, but I think their dynasty is more due to:
I do think based on the above the Pats had a really enviable "next man up" strategy. But I think that was more driven by fear (if you don't perform we'll shed you for someone who will) than guys giving their all for the concept of the "team."
- GOAT under center
- One of if not the brightest and cagiest (begrudgingly saying this) HC of all time (gameplan and drafting)
- instituting a system and getting the right "types" to fit key roles
- playing sound money ball by being willing to walk away from high ticket single players if their cap space can buy you multiple newer guys who fit the same profile/role needed
- cheating -- joking (sort of)
I might be wrong and/or biased -- Pats definitely held a high bar and earned their success without question. I just never saw the players engage and interact as a true "team" as opposed to being more of a cult around BB and TB.
Agreed. Carlson is not good at all. Wish they would have signed Rodrigo Blankenship from Georgia.Swinging back to the end of the draft. Does anyone know anything about our undrafted free agent signings? (Man, I hope Eberle is good so we can eject Carlson)
WR George Mariner
TE Nick Bowers
DL Mike Panasiuk
LB Javin White
CB Madre Harper
LS Liam McCullough
K Dominik Eberle
Ok. Now people are just freakin making up names.Agreed. Carlson is not good at all. Wish they would have signed Rodrigo Blankenship from Georgia.
And they are in Vegas now. Hard-working gym rats seems like a good move.I've been skeptical of Gruden and Mayock "building a team based on character" instead of potentially focusing talent and team fit. Sometimes it seemed we were looking for and weighting more heavily a sob story in a player's past that showed them overcome adversity in their lives, that they needed a second chance, etc. over pure BPA skill on the field.
We have yet to see it fully blossom, but I have come around to the way Gruden and Mayock are thinking about this. Beyond the fulffier aspects of it, character matters in building cohesive team chemistry. It's something we've lacked for years -- a shared identity, accountability, and everyone acting as a leader and holding each other to a high bar.
The more I see the complete turnaround in tenor and tone from vets like Incognito who have become true team leaders; the more I hear guys like Crosby, Ferrell, Renfrow, Abram, and others speak; and now listening to Arnette and other draft picks -- the more I think that in addition to raw individual talent, character may actually really help drive success.
It sets a tone and a culture for the entire team. You can build around core foundational leaders --vets and rooks alike -- who walk, talk, and breathe teamwork and accountability, who can help support each other as a team, and who stand tall and defend what it means to be a Raider. We see this in the ways guys came together so readily and easily (Salt & Pepa!), and in how excited they get for each other on the field.
The phrase "Commitment to Excellence" used to mean something. Something much more than simple winning.
And I love how we're purposefully rebuilding around character to recapture this commitment and forge an identity and culture.
I tend to agree with this. Al Davis and the Raiders lost their mystique in the 2000's because they stopped valuing winning culture and character. Focusing on lawsuits over the product on the field (which Al had admitted to, or he would've drafted Marino.) Drafting purely on height, weight and speed (DHB) without a care for that player's character and dedication to the sport and team (JaMarcus).There is always culture in an organization. I think it has 'worked' for a number of years because they won. The players were bought in and they players they brought in were peer pressured to accept the 'Patriot Way'. I mean, that damn slogan is a hallmark of branding your organizational culture. Branding helps you communicate in easily understood ways of what is expected of you if you are a part of that organization. I agree with you that the 'Patriot Way' is a nice translation to "do it like Belicheat wants"
Yes, it takes more than culture to win in the NFL. Your list is true and good but honestly, if you have as harsh and demanding an organizational culture as we believe Belicheat installs and maintains (with evidence that if finally drove Brady out even after 20 years of constantly and annoyingly winning and one of, if not the best, TE to prematurely retire then come out of retirement to play for another team) you have to the organizational body to have believed in it or it would have fallen apart a long time ago. Winning goes a hell of a long way to helping people believe in it.
(I was working on and about 3/4th the way through a Masters degree in Organizational Leadership so this discussion is right up my nerd alley)
Of course it was. A ridiculous lawsuit.
Wow. Bless that for democratizing information. Guy could have had his life totally altered by that. I'll bet he did have his life altered because of some official timer innocuously-seeming yet horrendous ####-up.massraider said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bipSHe2YZI8
Every Arnette target, 2019. Boom. God love YouTube.
God also love Twitter. Check THIS out:
https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1256400326732611587
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Maybe they beeped and he just didn't hear or heard late. That video is obvious that the clock is movin' and he...he ain't.That twitter clip of Arnette's 40 very clearly shows at least .11 added to this time before he starts his break. If he times at 4.45 instead of 4.56 does anyone at all question taking him at 19? Probably not. God bless Mike Mayock.
Which in football means poop.Maybe they beeped and he just didn't hear or heard late. That video is obvious that the clock is movin' and he...he ain't.
I would caution you that a big reason Henry Ruggs III is your spanking new addition to the club is precisely because of his forty time, in addition to other qualities.This is also another reason I don't put that much weight into 40 times like everyone else does, whether for good or bad.
I am not saying speed doesn't matter. I am saying that the 40 time as a way to measure speed has too much emphasis.I would caution you that a big reason Henry Ruggs III is your spanking new addition to the club is precisely because of his forty time, in addition to other qualities.
i like the pick. love that complication of highlights. the 40 timing can go either way. he was slow to react (that time), most likely. or, the time started early, not very likely. a 10th of a second in game time, won't matter that much IMHO.massraider said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bipSHe2YZI8
Every Arnette target, 2019. Boom. God love YouTube.
God also love Twitter. Check THIS out:
https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1256400326732611587
Discuss.
That is the thing. The 40 is a track thing. The proper stance and mechanics of a 40 yard dash have nothing to do with football. Whether it was a quick clock or slow response, neither show his football speed which is what really matters.i like the pick. love that complication of highlights. the 40 timing can go either way. he was slow to react (that time), most likely. or, the time started early, not very likely. a 10th of a second in game time, won't matter that much IMHO.
In the absence of anything better, I get why it's so important. Tech should really have improved this. We cant get Olympic testing at the Combine?I am not saying speed doesn't matter. I am saying that the 40 time as a way to measure speed has too much emphasis.