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The way I look at it is that this thread helps to get me through my day. I’m not a big social media guy nor do I listen much to the sports talk so this thread helps me stay somewhat connected to the group think with a fun group and every once in a while I share a thought. Considering all of his factors this thread likely does the same for DJax. Can’t say I read much of his lengthy contributions but we all have that option.
trading back in those rounds is how Belichek has continued to dominate...and most people will continue to be enamored of specific individuals and willing to pay "nothing" to move up a little and get them. The better move for NFL franchises is to move back a little and take advantage of that. GET MORE DARTS! The specific players aren't the key in rounds 4-7...the NUMBER of darts is. (And no, I'm not saying a round 7 dart is as good as a round 5 dart...but 3 round 7 darts might be better then one round 5)
Always amazes me how fast this goes down. Don't these guys have many teams calling them? There must be some pre-arranged "we like you, if you don't get taken stay near your phone"
This. Exactly this. If all I did was look at the players drafted, I'd think "good draft". But, living through the crazy decisions and watching the board break the way it did, made me want to drink heavily.need2know said:
I think Mills is gonna surprise people. I've been harping for yrs he needs to play Safety.
I talked to my co workers son before work. I asked about Hurts but he's totally out of the loop on that and said a few coaches were just as shocked as he was. When it comes to Taylor we talked a lot about it. With Taylor one of his big issues is lack of actual experience. There are some people on other teams (Asked a former scout with contacts in the league about this too) that if Taylor had more experience he'd have a lot of tools and be a 1st or high 2nd LB/S. The guy is raw but he's incredible athletic. A lot of teams feel he could really see the field in Nickel/Dime packages early in his career while contributing on Teams. Theres potential for him to grow into a very good LB/S hybrid. We aren't talking HoFer here but definitely guy I think who'd be a fan favorite if he develops like the people I talked too hope.
Charlie Davies and Steve Smith SR made SOME SENSE last night on NFL Draft access talking about Aaron Rodgers being hurt. However theres two key differences. One The Eagles Head Coach isn't an idiot and he won a SB because of his playing calling aggression too. The other is a dolt at Playcalling who Rodgers would just call plays on the fly himself. The Eagles compared to the Packers have had much better overall teams and depth at QB over the years then GB. Lets put it this way. Mike McCarthy would've been fired long ago if he didn't have Rodgers. The Packers without Rodgers are irrelevant and why I've argued Rodgers should be the automatic MVP every year. Without him they are nothing. If the Eagles wanted a back up Trevor Simiaen, Brian Hoyer, Chase Daniel, Blake Bortles etc are out there. Trust me I'd take Blake Bortles as my back up any day of the wee and twice on Sundays before I thought about Jalen Hurts
I'm Biased but LamIcheal Perine we could've had. 5 yards per carry avg at UF with a questionable Offensive line and receiving ability. Bigger body back too. Ke'Shawn Vaughn out of Vandy was a guy I liked going to the Bucs in the 3rd round this draft
I would not at all surprised if many teams roster/activate extra WRs due to the new roster expansion. Pretty much all WRs 4th or lower on any team's depth chart play special teams. Also wouldn't be surprised to see one of Hightower/Quez on the practice squad if they don't have room for both.Deamon said:
He loves playing Madden GMDeamon said:
Ya It likely will come down to Quez/Hightower/Ward fighting for 1-2 spots. 2-3 spots if Alshon is gone. I kinda hope they all make it at least for a few weeks into the season until we see what we have.
Me too I've always defended Howie and it's easier when the guys alma mater is your favorite college Sports program. However I just can't defend this draft and a few others moves the past few yrs. I hated people ####ting on Roseman for letting Jenkins go but honestly it was a good move. A lot of kool aid drinkers swinging on Jenkins nuts the last 2 yrs and he was one of the issues with this secondary with blown coverages and all. Seemed to decline the last 2 yrs and during all or nothing made a few comments of missing his assignment. He's also on the wrong side of 30. Rather move on now then before its too lateDeamon said:
Bradley might be undersized but this dude lacks in size he makes up for with his aggression and loves Football. I loved watching him play at TU and my one Co Worker who went to TU had 2 classes with him before she graduated a year ago. Really good dude too.Deamon said:
Prince dropped because of a knee injury. Really happy we got him thoughDeamon said:
I think I like our 3rd round on more then Day 1 and 2 put together. I don't know a lot about the other WR not named Quiz but I know they all run really really really fast and we might have the best track team in the league if we had a track meet with all NFL WRs. Some of these guys might be able to go head to head in the 40 vs Hillneed2know said:
Only thing I disagree on is we upgraded Back up QB. I'd rather not draft a QB at all and Kept Suddy then taken Hurts. He was projected as a day 3 guy we took in the 2nd. He's barely an avg QB for the NFL. He was god awful against really good competition and defenses in the SEC benched in the Title game and transferred because he couldn't hack it in the SEC. Thats not a good thing. Nothing against the kid personally. He'd a good kid in general but when he transferred to OU there were scouts who preferred he'd switch too WR. Projections on this guy is all over the place and he's a project no matter what position he's playing. Rather taken Eason or Fromm.need2know said:
After talking to my guy and looking at the pick I get it for Reagor. Guy they wanted but they had others targeted who went earlier. Didn't have the assets to really trade up (Had we kept some of our 3rds and 4ths we don't need to give up or 2nd to move up for Lamb) without giving up a 2. It's still a reach. I don't hate Reagor like I do drafting Hurts in 2nd but we reached because we were scared we couldn't get him in the 2nd and put ourselves between a rock and a hard place on need. WOuld've preferred Murray, Jefferson, etc there over Reagor. Tell me we took Reagor in round 2 similar to Djac I'm more ok with this pick. Hurts makes zero sense to me. You want a good back up take Fromm or Eason way better prospects for reasons I stated. If this is all bull#### and they plan on using him as a playmaker then I'd rather have taken Shenault (Moved up) or taken Bowden JR the QB/WR/RB/KR/PR from Kentucky. Thats the type of guy you take for that. Want a QB to develop Eason or Fromm.Deamon said:
DJac going to be doing some teaching. Wonder if DeSean will become Mooreheads Assistiant teacher/coach aide to these guys all similar to him. I want to see all these guys vs Tyreke Hill in a 40 or just a track race in general.Deamon said:
Not that impressive, not many teams were considering drafting him. We probably had a pretty good look at him all year at Temple so if anyone was going to take him it probably would have been us.
I may have watched more LSU and SEC games then anyone here. To say Jefferson is just a slot guy in the NFL is insulting IMHO. I feel the Slot/WR3 has replaced the FB in the starting 11 and most teams consider the #3 WR a starter now (Depending who you ask maybe 2 TE's which we've had a luxury of for 2 yrs now) and I fell that you need at least 3 very good starters at WR now. Jefferson played a lot of outside in College and did well. He got moved to Inside/Slot to get Ja'Marr CHaison on the field more on the outside.. Jefferson did a lot of damage in the slot however he can play outside. I think Reagor is more of a DeSean clone with some issues I don't like drops (Can only blame poor QB play for so much) many were on Screens, bubbles etc short passes to get him into space that should be caught, not a huge fan of using numbers for the Big 12 as I believe like I already said are terrible inflated, the guy was a 2nd rounder before the Combine and his workouts, seems like a good kid but seemed to take plays off, non interest in blocking and seemed to show up his QB at times. Never hated hated this pick but tell me Reagor is drafted by us in a similar spot as DeSean was I'm ok with the pick. I just had a lot of other prospects from DE/S/LB/CB and WR's ahead of him before I'd taken him. WOuld've rather taken Jefferson or moved back and maybe get a 3rd then taken reached on ReagorBigboy10182000 said:
You can't justify the pick when the dude they picked is a big project. From a few reports I saw Media hyped Hurts up but from sources of these scouting websites (I really love Walter Football layout and they give really good summaries on the top prospects and some popular guys with team fits and everything ranked clean and organized) that scouts didn't see the same. Here's the quote from Walter FootballJetMaxx said:
Reports have been all over the place on Hurts from he should've moved to WR when he transferred to he should be a FB/WR hybrid at the NFL to maybe if a team likes him enough to work him as a project they would, to maybe he's a Tysom Hill. To show you how overhyped ESPN had him I was the ESPN coverage on the pick last night and they compared him to Russel Wilson. Sorry I'm not a huge Wilson fan but thats disrespectful to Russel Wilson right there. Some scouts and draft sites say his best college tape to illustrate his strengths is 2019 Baylor but then admit he's also throwing to Wide open WRs or WRs who have 2 Yards of Seperation on the corner downfeild. Any QB I would hope capable of throwing a Football should look great throwing to guys like that all game even Colin Kapernick should be able to do that. Considering our other needs and this dude being a reach there's just no way to justify this pick when theres better prospects QB wise they could've had later in the draft.
Granny has a potty mouth. I Love it!!!!Bigboy10182000 said:
We have different views on hurts. He has flaws but I see a guy getting better and he only lost his job cause Tua is amazing.
If it's true takes a lot of balls and courage to stay there. Maybe Carson also didn't tell the team but they feel after Luck last year they may have a hunch it could happen?Deamon said:
There usually is. There's a few guys that teams may take as their last pick who maybe UDFA's because they feel if they tried the UDFA route they couldn't get them. Usually the bigger UDFA's get this. Some teams also talk to prospects and pre arrange late in the draft deals saying if you don't get drafted we will sign you as our first pick. We'll give ya X amount of bonus money to which might be higher then they get elsewhere.Deamon said:
His own coaches at LSU disagree. They moved him from an outside guy into the slot just this year
We probably should be. We always seem to get quality seasons/stretches from undrafted RB’s
Just trying to figure out how you get them all on the field. Would we really have Goodwin, Djax, Reagor, Ertz, Geodert, PLUS a slot WR on the field at the same time ever?
