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Yes... yes we will be. Look at our schedule.We won't even be remotely in the running for him.
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Yes... yes we will be. Look at our schedule.We won't even be remotely in the running for him.
I have and you're exaggerating. If you think this is a 3 win team this year you're very very wrong. I assure you we won't be a top 3 pick this year, and definitely not #1. As bad as we look, we aren't remotely near the worst.Yes... yes we will be. Look at our schedule.
if we lose to cinci would that change your mind? cause im not sure we are gonna win that one and they were the worst team last yearI have and you're exaggerating. If you think this is a 3 win team this year you're very very wrong. I assure you we won't be a top 3 pick this year, and definitely not #1. As bad as we look, we aren't remotely near the worst.
I have us at 5-11. With an upset over SF in the mix. 5-11 puts us firmly in the conversation.I have and you're exaggerating. If you think this is a 3 win team this year you're very very wrong. I assure you we won't be a top 3 pick this year, and definitely not #1. As bad as we look, we aren't remotely near the worst.
5 wins doesn't put us even close to the #1 pick.I have us at 5-11. With an upset over SF in the mix. 5-11 puts us firmly in the mix.
Nope it wouldn't. To be in the mix for TL we would need to win 3 games this year. I see our absolute FLOOR as 4-5 wins. There is absolutely zero chance we get the #1 pick.if we lose to cinci would that change your mind? cause im not sure we are gonna win that one and they were the worst team last year
Thats an absolute nightmareGreg Roman and Jalen Hurts will be the HC/QB combo next year. You heard it here first
5-11 puts you squarely in the top 5...5 wins doesn't put us even close to the #1 pick.
And not even "firmly in the mix". A 5 win team has never even drafted within the top 3 before.
Top 5 isn't what you said. You said squarely in the mix for TL who will go #1 overall.5-11 puts you squarely in the top 5...
I think people are looking to much into the pick. This is what it's about and nothing more. This team is always trying to be the smartest people in the room. They saw what Peyton and NO did with Taysum Hill and thought they could do it better and sexier then them. I think we are, especially on offense trying trying to get too cute when we at this point need to go back to the basics.I have been wondering this myself, without alcohol, ever since the pick was made. If it wasn't pure incompetence by Howie, which it could be, it either had to be from having no faith in Wentz to stay healthy or from thinking he'll hang it up after this contract is done.
Won't get into the politics issue here but lets just say compared to other states we are doing a lot better in terms of who's contracting it over others. I've had co workers come back from the shore and say don't go down there. I've had co workers comeback and go out on quarantine because they tested positive or were in contact with someone who's had it. It's a disaster. I'd rather be safe then sorry.Side thing that’s pissing me off—We had 300 cardboard cut outs in the stands because our ####### governor just keeps his thumb down on us and Dallas over 21,000 fans at their game.
If they lose to Cincy this week, at home, how could you be confident in beating anyone? I mean, they will, but a loss this week probably puts them at an 0-6 start and perhaps they just say screw it and put in Hurts the rest of the way.Nope it wouldn't. To be in the mix for TL we would need to win 3 games this year. I see our absolute FLOOR as 4-5 wins. There is absolutely zero chance we get the #1 pick.
My main response was to the poster saying 5 wins would put us in the mix for Lawrence, which is simply incorrect. Click-bait.If they lose to Cincy this week, at home, how could you be confident in beating anyone? I mean, they will, but a loss this week probably puts them at an 0-6 start and perhaps they just say screw it and put in Hurts the rest of the way.
I think they will very likely get to 4-5 wins, but no way is that the absolute floor, especially if they lose this week.
Can we give it up already. Numerous teams passed on the guy and for good reason. I feel I have this same debate with my fellow bulls fans on Micheal Porter JR. A lot of teams passed on both for Red Flags. Red Flag Medical issues to be exact. So far it hasn't comeback and bit either team. You should be more mad that we drafted a CB for this team in the 2nd no longer here when we could've had Kamara, Juju, or Kupp instead. In that same draft we took Rasul Douglas and 3 picks later James Conner went. 2017 draft really set us back IMHO over the others.That #14 guy in Seattle looks ok. Not as good as JJAW though.
I was just talking about this after last game with My Co worker who's son work as a coach for them. It sounds more like Carson hasn't been comfortable with any OC/QB Coach since both Flip and Reich left. Also Doug seems to be trying to get too cute on offense when they need to get back to basics. Some players have talent but really its up to the coaching staff sometimes to coach that talent and mold It what it needs to be. It doesn't sound like the Eagles have done what's best for Carson in awhile.Doug doesn't need to go. I think he's a good HC.
What he is NOT, is a good HC/OC combo. Get a OC from outside the org that can call plays. I think Doug can do a great job rallying the troops, keeping things together, but we need an actual OC.
And I'm out on Jim Schwartz. We saw it in the Super Bowl, we saw it every year since. Guys constantly wide open, lack of sacks and TO's. I'm ready to say it's the scheme. Teams have adjusted, and he has not countered.
I don't know on Carson. I was so optimistic at the end of last year, thought he turned a corner and was getting it. He looks like a rookie out there now.
I think you need to lay off the Angelo and WIP morning show for a bit. We aren't that terrible. There's teams worse then us and I mean a lot worse. Giants will be looking at a top 3 pick now with Barkley out for the year.Yes... yes we will be. Look at our schedule.
I was for league-wide parity, but even Jeffery Lurie thinks its ok this way:As for the fans that's totally on the NFL at this point telling teams they can if their state allows it. NFL should've went for a league wide statement but they care too much about the money.
Nah I see him more like EDP but not as over the top with the N Bombs and cursing. I hated Chip Kelly but the dude went over the top when he said he hoped Chip's house burned with him in it. Theres passionate and then there's being an idiot and that idiot part is what gets our fanbase the bad rep that people defend with the "we're being passionate" line.
In this crazy season of covid and injuries, sure, I think they have a floor of 2 wins. They've already lost to Washington, who is one of the worst teams in the league, and if they lose this week to Cincy, who would they be favored against the rest of the way? The Giants, maybe @ the Giants, and Washington? Plus, if they go into that last game of the season vs. Washington with only a few wins they'll likely try to lose it.My main response was to the poster saying 5 wins would put us in the mix for Lawrence, which is simply incorrect. Click-bait.
Do you really think this Eagles team has a floor of 2 wins? We always win games we're not supposed to win, and still have 3 games vs wash/nyg.
The chance of us going 2-14 and possibly drafting him are zero.
Again I won't get into the politics here but I disagree with some areas who are letting fans in their stadiums because they are big risk states Texas and Zona especially. My Friend who teaches in ARZ they are doing remote learning in her district and she even said if she could attend the Eagles games in Arizona she wouldn't. It's just too much risk in such a high risk area. I know the precautions the NFL is taking but one idiot fan can ruin an entire football season right now. We all know how much the NFL really cares about player safety. It's more of less lets create rules that are CYA"s and protect us against lawsuits.I was for league-wide parity, but even Jeffery Lurie thinks its ok this way:
Do we really want to prevent those 20,000 fans in wherever it is to be unable to watch their team play because we're not able to have fans on the East Coast? I don't think so. Fans are the backbone of the sport. I really believe that – I wouldn't want to sit here and tell you that we're going to stop those fans in Arizona or wherever it is from attending if it's safe there just because we think there's some advantage. I'd rather have them enjoy our sport.
Doesn't matter if we are favoured or not... we play better when we aren't.In this crazy season of covid and injuries, sure, I think they have a floor of 2 wins. They've already lost to Washington, who is one of the worst teams in the league, and if they lose this week to Cincy, who would they be favored against the rest of the way? The Giants, maybe @ the Giants, and Washington? Plus, if they go into that last game of the season vs. Washington with only a few wins they'll likely try to lose it.
I don't expect it to happen but if they lose this week it's pretty likely they start off 0-6. What if they fire the coach and/or change QBs? What if Sanders and/or Wentz go down again? Like I said, I don't expect them to be in the running but it isn't zero IMO if they lose next week, which is what I responded to.
My other issue is I work in an essential work place in food retail. Not sure if you or others are shopping on a day of game or there on a Monday or Thursday evening before a game but in my area it's packed. Multiple people buying stuff for the game, having people over etc. If it's a home game forget about it especially with tailgating. Those who don't get up at the butt crack of dawn are in my store in a line for the liquor section 10 mins before 9am (When you can sell alcohol in PA on a Sun) and heading down. How many people do you think are before the game tailgating following CDC guidelines? If it's anything it was at the shore this year I'd say a high % aren't. Now say a few of those people are positive. They go to the game and aren't wearing their mask properly etc. Now say a staff member for event gets it and passes it to other staff without knowing. Then team personal get it. Now that fan is going back to the stores. You are just putting too many people at risk at this point. I'm happy I work in an area and state that follows this seriously. I feel bad for people I know in my company or have moved elsewhere and family who work similar jobs in states who don't. Just think the risk isn't worth the reward for fans this year.I was for league-wide parity, but even Jeffery Lurie thinks its ok this way:
Do we really want to prevent those 20,000 fans in wherever it is to be unable to watch their team play because we're not able to have fans on the East Coast? I don't think so. Fans are the backbone of the sport. I really believe that – I wouldn't want to sit here and tell you that we're going to stop those fans in Arizona or wherever it is from attending if it's safe there just because we think there's some advantage. I'd rather have them enjoy our sport.
Burrow is a future top 5 QB in this league if he keeps progressing. He's not there yet and still a rookie but they need to be careful. I was really impressed with him at LSU6.5 point faves next week. Cinci seemed like a trap game for sure... 10 days rest and much improved team and qb. I don't think it's a gimme win at all.
Hot Take! lolBurrow is a future top 5 QB in this league if he keeps progressing. He's not there yet and still a rookie but they need to be careful. I was really impressed with him at LSU
It doesn't help that Acme offers that 5% gameday discount when you wear Eagles gear.Not sure if you or others are shopping on a day of game or there on a Monday or Thursday evening before a game but in my area it's packed.
hes looked better than wentz this year for sureBurrow is a future top 5 QB in this league if he keeps progressing. He's not there yet and still a rookie but they need to be careful. I was really impressed with him at LSU
Maybe A lot of guys don't impress me that much and its hard too. And being a Florida fan and you know my bias it takes special talent to do that. I was really big on Dalvin Cook in collegeHot Take! lol
Since Wentz came into the league, 20 QBs have attempted over 1,500 passes. Wentz ranks 14th of 20 in both completion percentage and ANY/A.Carson Wentz through 2 weeks:
- Passer grade 42.7 (worst in league)
- Sacked 8 times (worst in league)
- 4 INTs (tied worst with Cousins)
- 64.4 passer rating (4th worst)
- 13 poor throws (2nd worst in league)
- 32.9 % on target throws (tied 6th worst)
How many of the teams that passed on him needed a big speed WR? How many already had a slow power forward type of receiver? How many drafted another slow power forward type receiver before the big fast guy they needed?Can we give it up already. Numerous teams passed on the guy and for good reason. I feel I have this same debate with my fellow bulls fans on Micheal Porter JR. A lot of teams passed on both for Red Flags. Red Flag Medical issues to be exact. So far it hasn't comeback and bit either team. You should be more mad that we drafted a CB for this team in the 2nd no longer here when we could've had Kamara, Juju, or Kupp instead. In that same draft we took Rasul Douglas and 3 picks later James Conner went. 2017 draft really set us back IMHO over the others.
The truth hurts.Since Wentz came into the league, 20 QBs have attempted over 1,500 passes. Wentz ranks 14th of 20 in both completion percentage and ANY/A.
The 6 guys behind him are Bortles, Newton, Eli, Dalton, and Winston / Goff (on C%) or Keenum / Flacco (on ANY/A). These are not lists of names you want your nine-figure franchise QB to be even remotely associated with.
I thought Wentz would be great and want Wentz to be great ... but I said the same things about Mariota a couple years ago, too. You can hand-wave things away only so much - at some point the numbers have to speak for themselves.
And jones was severely hurt!How many of the teams that passed on him needed a big speed WR? How many already had a slow power forward type of receiver? How many drafted another slow power forward type receiver before the big fast guy they needed?
Not only was DK listed as one of the best available he was a position and type of player we needed.
And you can go scratch with the red flag crap too. We’ve made some insanely bad picks of guys who had way bigger red flags. For a decent example see Jones, Sidney.
A lot of teams needed a WR like DK CHI Most teams were built with Big Wideouts who needed a speedsterHow many of the teams that passed on him needed a big speed WR? How many already had a slow power forward type of receiver? How many drafted another slow power forward type receiver before the big fast guy they needed?
Not only was DK listed as one of the best available he was a position and type of player we needed.
And you can go scratch with the red flag crap too. We’ve made some insanely bad picks of guys who had way bigger red flags. For a decent example see Jones, Sidney.
I was never high on Jones to begin with never got the pick that high but that was more of a pick from a guy who is no longer here and killing the Jets right now in Joe Douglass. The other guy was Schwartz who wanted himAnd jones was severely hurt!
Probably true but what I've noticed in these past 5 years is that it seems to swing back and forth like a pendulum based on who is on a hot stretch and who is struggling. They've both had moments in their career where they've looked great and both have also had stretches where they struggled. Just look at last year and how Wentz closed out the season after struggling early on. Someone already stated it earlier but coaching really does make a big difference.That ship sailed
absolutely. Cam looks like he could be MVP under the real GOT vader. i really wish he would stop doing that stupid superman celebration though, bro, scoreboard.Someone already stated it earlier but coaching really does make a big difference.
we’ve seen Dak with weapons similar to Wentz at times. We’ve seen enough to not get into debates about who the tallest midget is but here you are.....That ship sailed
I’m mostly poking fun, and you’re one of the few in this thread that can take it.Bigboy10182000 said:we’ve seen Dak with weapons similar to Wentz at times. We’ve seen enough to not get into debates about who the tallest midget is but here you are.....
One of the issues people took with the guy who did a scathing report on Cam and was pretty much right on him was he knows where the cameras are at all times. I'm shocked given his personality that BB and the Pats took him as he's not the type of player they'd look for "The Patriot Way".Pigskin Fanatic said:absolutely. Cam looks like he could be MVP under the real GOT vader. i really wish he would stop doing that stupid superman celebration though, bro, scoreboard.
but i digress. nothing against doug here yet and Wentz should get a pass for a few games. the scheduling has been brutal under the circumstances with the injuries and no preseason and it's not getting any better till our bye. odds are good 2020 is a lost season, but let's see if Wentz can get into a groove soon and make better decisions. play calling can improve too to help him with that imo.
Now that's some bad luck. But at least they had their Super Bowl run last year.Hey at least we aren't the 49ers. Everything from the MRI machine to plane issues
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The 49ers have five WR & Richard Sherman on IR, starting C on PUP, Jimmy G & their top two RB hurt, George Kittle has a sprained knee, Nick Bosa & Solomon Thomas have likely ACL tears, Dee Ford is hurt, the MRI machine broke & their plane got hit on the runway. Other than that...
Yeah but it was one of the most boring SBs ever and they didn't winNow that's some bad luck. But at least they had their Super Bowl run last year.
The Patriot way, is winning games. Newton has and is continuing to do that. They were a yard from beating Seattle, who is the NFC's best in my opinion.One of the issues people took with the guy who did a scathing report on Cam and was pretty much right on him was he knows where the cameras are at all times. I'm shocked given his personality that BB and the Pats took him as he's not the type of player they'd look for "The Patriot Way".
It’s a long list I’d take right now, but I’m not in a good place lolI’m mostly poking fun, and you’re one of the few in this thread that can take it.
So I won’t ask you who you’d rather have rest of the year if you could choose
Except I'm not so sure Washington is one of the worst in the league right now...that D-line is gonna keep them in a lot of gameshumpback said:In this crazy season of covid and injuries, sure, I think they have a floor of 2 wins. They've already lost to Washington, who is one of the worst teams in the league, and if they lose this week to Cincy, who would they be favored against the rest of the way? The Giants, maybe @ the Giants, and Washington? Plus, if they go into that last game of the season vs. Washington with only a few wins they'll likely try to lose it.
I don't expect it to happen but if they lose this week it's pretty likely they start off 0-6. What if they fire the coach and/or change QBs? What if Sanders and/or Wentz go down again? Like I said, I don't expect them to be in the running but it isn't zero IMO if they lose next week, which is what I responded to.