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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (15 Viewers)
- Thread starter Big League Chew
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jamny
Footballguy
Good article and a little reassuring:
Experts envision two scenarios if the new coronavirus isn’t contained
Experts envision two scenarios if the new coronavirus isn’t contained
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
That's just regular smog. I recall being in Beijing during a pollution red alert and the smog was so bad that you could barely see across the street. It was like being on a different planet.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
DallasDMac
Footballguy
jplvr
Footballguy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfGpdFNHoqQ
I can't remember if I stumbled across this here or elsewhere, but this is what I'm looking towards for information I trust right now.
I can't remember if I stumbled across this here or elsewhere, but this is what I'm looking towards for information I trust right now.
fissure man
Footballguy
Penguin
Footballguy
That's for all of China with the exception of the Hubei province where Wuhan is. There were 70 deaths in Hubei today.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Redwes25
Footballguy
This seems very likely. No way they are reporting cases correctly. I also dont think we have something like 25k deaths already like that tencent stuff.
Big League Chew
Footballguy
X-Files: “Trust no one”
otb_lifer
Footballguy
if his generous grant results in some kinda wearable patch being developed to combat this virus, well ... mind = blown.
-fish-
Footballguy
Big League Chew
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
Big League Chew
Footballguy
Eek
MTskibum
Footballguy
This is good news, just need everyone sick to stay home.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/symptomless-spread-of-new-coronavirus-questioned-as-outbreak-mushrooms/
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IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
That is good news.
And people should stay home when they feel sick anyway. They should not have needed this as an excuse. Now that I work from home I thankfully don't have to put up with the workaholic sicko jerk who is is coughing/sneezing up a storm but in the office anyway so he can prove what a trooper he is. It's cool dude, you're sick. Stay and home and keep that thing to yourself already.
moleculo
Footballguy
fissure man
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
It does well in cold. There was an article that says it's shelf life is really perhaps 3 days or less yesterday.
D-Day
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Jobber
Footballguy
Possible Cytokine Storm in Young, Healthy Adults :
...But some patients who enter the second week will suddenly get worse. At this stage, people should go to the hospital. Elderly with underlying conditions may develop complications; some may need machine-assisted respiration. When the body’s other organs start to fail, that’s when it becomes severe, while those with strong immune systems see their symptoms decrease in severity at this stage and gradually recover. So the second week is what determines whether the illness becomes critical.
The third week determines whether critical illness leads to death. Some in critical condition who receive treatment can raise their lymphocyte, a type of white blood cell, and see an improvement in their immune systems, and have been brought back, so to speak. But those whose lymphocyte numbers continue to decline, those whose immune systems are destroyed in the end, experience multiple organ failure and die.
For most, the illness is over in two weeks, whereas for those for whom the illness becomes severe, if they can survive three weeks they’re good. Those that can’t will die in three weeks.
Peng: "The biggest assault the virus launches is on a patient’s immune system. It causes a fall in the count of lymphocytes, the damage in the lungs and shortness of breath. Many serious patients died of choking. Others died of the failure of multiple organs following complications in their organs resulting from a collapse of the immune system."
Caixin: "A 39-year-old patient in Hong Kong suffered from cardiac arrest, and his death ensued quickly. A few patients did not have severe symptoms upon the onslaught of the virus or in early stages, but they died suddenly. Some experts argue that the virus triggers a cytokine storm, which ravages the stronger immune system of young adults. Eventually excessive inflammations caused by cytokine result in the higher mortality rate. Have you seen such a phenomenon in the coronavirus outbreak?"
Peng: "Based on my observations, a third of patients exhibited inflammation in their whole body. It was not necessarily limited to young adults. The mechanism of a cytokine storm is about whole-body inflammation, which leads to a failure of multiple organs and quickly evolves into the terminal stage. In some fast-progressing cases, it took two to three days to progress from whole-body inflammation to the life-threatening stage."
So... I know we all had a laugh about the Cytokine Storm a few years ago. That said, wasn't there a vitamin that helps protect against this? I think Ham or someone mentioned it back then.
...But some patients who enter the second week will suddenly get worse. At this stage, people should go to the hospital. Elderly with underlying conditions may develop complications; some may need machine-assisted respiration. When the body’s other organs start to fail, that’s when it becomes severe, while those with strong immune systems see their symptoms decrease in severity at this stage and gradually recover. So the second week is what determines whether the illness becomes critical.
The third week determines whether critical illness leads to death. Some in critical condition who receive treatment can raise their lymphocyte, a type of white blood cell, and see an improvement in their immune systems, and have been brought back, so to speak. But those whose lymphocyte numbers continue to decline, those whose immune systems are destroyed in the end, experience multiple organ failure and die.
For most, the illness is over in two weeks, whereas for those for whom the illness becomes severe, if they can survive three weeks they’re good. Those that can’t will die in three weeks.
Peng: "The biggest assault the virus launches is on a patient’s immune system. It causes a fall in the count of lymphocytes, the damage in the lungs and shortness of breath. Many serious patients died of choking. Others died of the failure of multiple organs following complications in their organs resulting from a collapse of the immune system."
Caixin: "A 39-year-old patient in Hong Kong suffered from cardiac arrest, and his death ensued quickly. A few patients did not have severe symptoms upon the onslaught of the virus or in early stages, but they died suddenly. Some experts argue that the virus triggers a cytokine storm, which ravages the stronger immune system of young adults. Eventually excessive inflammations caused by cytokine result in the higher mortality rate. Have you seen such a phenomenon in the coronavirus outbreak?"
Peng: "Based on my observations, a third of patients exhibited inflammation in their whole body. It was not necessarily limited to young adults. The mechanism of a cytokine storm is about whole-body inflammation, which leads to a failure of multiple organs and quickly evolves into the terminal stage. In some fast-progressing cases, it took two to three days to progress from whole-body inflammation to the life-threatening stage."
So... I know we all had a laugh about the Cytokine Storm a few years ago. That said, wasn't there a vitamin that helps protect against this? I think Ham or someone mentioned it back then.
beer 30
Footballguy
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
So the 34 yo doctor who tried to alert Chinese authorities in September died from the virus. So much for elderly...
Doug B
Footballguy
From where you sit, does this make sense internally, or does it seem like overkill to your colleagues?
In any meeting of 100+ people ... your business is such that one can assume at least one from that group has been to China in recent weeks? Or been exposed to someone who's been to China in recent weeks?
For a group of 100 people who have only been in the U.S. in recent months ... shouldn't be any coronavirus risk at all, should there?
culdeus
Footballguy
I would wait to see more, they easily could have murdered him to make an example.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Official #1 examining doctor's body: How'd he die?
Official #2: Coronavirus
Official #1: But he's got a big bullet hole in his.......
Official #2: Corona. Virus. And I hear it's spreading.
Official #1: OK. Yeah. Coronavirus it is.
Doug B
Footballguy
Since I've first heard of this virus last month ... I had been thinking that living in the U.S. alone kept me about 99.999999999% safe from ever even as much as knowing someone who catches the coronavirus. Just seems like SARS all over again from a superficial perspective. Guess we'll see.
msommer
Footballguy
msommer
Footballguy
Which one? One in Japan, one in Hong Kong and one in Italy - some 10,000 people stuck in their cabins on cruise ships now
Scoresman
Footballguy
I thought the one in Italy was cleared? If not, holy cow that must be awful. The 24 hour buffet on that ship must be real ripe by now. :X
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msommer
Footballguy
I'm sure they get supplies hoisted aboard from land. But holy moly being locked in your cabin for two weeks must suck. I had not heard that the one in Italy had been cleared, will dig more
Otis
Footballguy
jplvr
Footballguy
I saw a post earlier today with this in the text and the following link, but I haven't read the article: Singapore reports 2 new cases of coronavirus, including 1 person with no links to China or previous cases.
https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/two-more-confirmed-cases-of-novel-coronavirus-infection-in-singapore
Creepy drone video of the empty streets of Wuhan.
https://twitter.com/SriramSalem44/status/1225408327409995776?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1225408327409995776&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.rivals.com%2Fthreads%2Fcoronavirus.914452%2Fpage-61
