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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (6 Viewers)

BTW, how “lucky” are we that the US was not on Italy’s timeline.  
 

If not for that roadmap of repercussions, we’d not be at ALL prepared.  At least we now have many people social distancing, almost all of not all people staying away from large crowds, people being extra vigilant about washing and disinfecting, plus hyper conscious about symptoms - let’s be honest, how many times do people feel a cold or flu coming on and still push through until they are “really” sick.  
 

That’s a ton of help right there, because if we got hit a week or two ago as we are now, I think it would be a far quicker launch before we could reel things in.

Perhaps as or most important of all is the extra level of caution our seniors are taking.  As of a week ago, my parents decided they would stop travel and utilize extreme caution.  Yes, many of us are still going out in the world, myself included. I’m trying to be smart about it, but also support my friends at work in restaurants. There’s risk there, but I’m trying to balance prudence with sanity, and taking precaution of extra cleaning as I can, while again being hyper aware to ANY type of symptom.

I know others, especially 20 somethings and to be honest, 30, 40 and 50 somethings to a lesser degree (those who are Single or no kids at least) throw caution to the wind. They will be at impromptu St Patty’s parties and living it up.  It’s not the most wise, it will lead to contagion, but as noted above, many including almost all lost at risk are going to be social distancing if not isolating totally. 
 

So those who do get it will likely have a flu and move on (we hope), while the issues with high mortality rates in certain segments should still be muted overall. 
 

Just some thoughts 

 
matuski said:
How would testing limit the spread?  Again... too late.  

Someone tested positive?  Too late, they probably spread it.  Hurry up and test everyone they know?  Too late, they spread it.

Fools errand.
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We are in the very beginning, it is not too late.

 
matuski said:
You are right, there is not a mass panic yet.

But there are enough panicking that my grocery store shelves are empty.  We aren't far off.
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It's so early in the process but so far the only thing I have seen in my area was a limit on sanitary items one day. 

Seattle area is hit super hard and while it's weird no huge issues and we have gone through some drastic steps very quickly. 

Thought the crazy stories I was reading were isolated situations and akin to "look at the line at my Costco" this afternoon.

 
shader said:
The cases are exploding in Germany.  Deaths are low, which probably speaks to the state of their healthcare.  But it would be nice if they'd let the world in on their secret.
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I think it's all political. The administration has been patting themselves on the back. They want to be seen as finding solutions. After all, they blame Europeans for it reaching our shores.

 
Doug B said:
Already developed in South Korea. Several US states have already been doing drive-they testing in limited numbers. The states just needed the stateside manufacture of working tests ramped way up.
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Sutter Health in CA does drive through testings at their sites. They can do xrays too. I'm assuming just chest xrays to check the lungs. Have to be a pt of theirs though.

 
The General said:
It's so early in the process but so far the only thing I have seen in my area was a limit on sanitary items one day. 

Seattle area is hit super hard and while it's weird no huge issues and we have gone through some drastic steps very quickly. 

Thought the crazy stories I was reading were isolated situations and akin to "look at the line at my Costco" this afternoon.
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A week ago they were isolated.

 
cap'n grunge said:
We need to be able to pee on a stick. Can we have simple tests like that?
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Not in my car man.  Last time I tried the bottle trick I made a real mess.

Dan Lambskin said:
danlambskin,

You’ve likely heard by now that, due to heightened concerns around coronavirus (COVID-19), most sports leagues have been suspended. I wanted to reach out to share with you everything we know about how the current situation will impact FanDuel users for the foreseeable future.

First and foremost, our thoughts are with those immediately impacted by this outbreak. FanDuel believes that sports offer fans an important outlet in both good times and bad, and to that end we look forward to everyone’s favorite leagues returning whenever it is safe for them to do so. In the meantime, however, we remain as committed as ever to giving our fans more ways to win. More on that below, but first I want to address how these recent developments will be impacting FanDuel’s core offerings.

FanDuel Fantasy

Our FanDuel Fantasy app will remain live and you’ll have full access to your FanDuel account. Moving forward, our policy is that, if the sport is being played (and if it’s usually available on FanDuel), then we’ll offer a fantasy contest. In circumstances where a future contest cannot run due to a league-wide suspension of games, we will always return your entry fee. Additionally, we’re currently working to develop new free-to-play games which we hope will be a fun diversion during this uncertain time. We’ll share more on those as soon as we can.

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Our main priority during this period is to do what is right by our fans at every opportunity. While there may be a bit of uncertainty as we allow various situations to develop, we’re committed to keeping you informed of any developments as quickly as possible. Our customer support team remains available through all of our usual channels. If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact them here.

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"There are no sports!  Love, fanduel"

 
brun said:
My son stopped in a grocery store on the way home from work. Said it was a madhouse.

I stopped in Whole Foods. A little more crowded than usual but was still in and out in maybe 10 minutes.

Both stores in Nashua.
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Even in a pandemic people are still cheap!

 
Koya said:
BTW, how “lucky” are we that the US was not on Italy’s timeline.  
 

If not for that roadmap of repercussions, we’d not be at ALL prepared.  At least we now have many people social distancing, almost all of not all people staying away from large crowds, people being extra vigilant about washing and disinfecting, plus hyper conscious about symptoms - let’s be honest, how many times do people feel a cold or flu coming on and still push through until they are “really” sick.  
 

That’s a ton of help right there, because if we got hit a week or two ago as we are now, I think it would be a far quicker launch before we could reel things in.

Perhaps as or most important of all is the extra level of caution our seniors are taking.  As of a week ago, my parents decided they would stop travel and utilize extreme caution.  Yes, many of us are still going out in the world, myself included. I’m trying to be smart about it, but also support my friends at work in restaurants. There’s risk there, but I’m trying to balance prudence with sanity, and taking precaution of extra cleaning as I can, while again being hyper aware to ANY type of symptom.

I know others, especially 20 somethings and to be honest, 30, 40 and 50 somethings to a lesser degree (those who are Single or no kids at least) throw caution to the wind. They will be at impromptu St Patty’s parties and living it up.  It’s not the most wise, it will lead to contagion, but as noted above, many including almost all lost at risk are going to be social distancing if not isolating totally. 
 

So those who do get it will likely have a flu and move on (we hope), while the issues with high mortality rates in certain segments should still be muted overall. 
 

Just some thoughts 
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https://twitter.com/nickkristof/status/1238618948272259073?s=21


A hospital in Seattle area has sent out a note to staff, shared with me, suspending elective surgery and warning that "our local COVID-19 trajectory is likely to be similar to that of Northern Italy." The hospital is down to a four-day supply of gloves.

 
matuski said:
How would testing limit the spread?  Again... too late.  

Someone tested positive?  Too late, they probably spread it.  Hurry up and test everyone they know?  Too late, they spread it.

Fools errand.
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Testing is relative.  I can test negative this morning and be all happy and get infected tonight.

 
BobbyLayne said:
You serious?
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The peak spike in china and italy were days 12-16 from the charts I have seen.  We are a few days into it it in many places (if not all).

I imagine different areas of the country will experience their own peak days based on when it got there.

 
matuski said:
A week ago they were isolated.
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Placing stress on the system for sure. Don't really know how you prepare for millions of people all of a sudden working from home at the same time. Hopefully stores aren't out of food for days on end, a line at the grocery store heading into this isn't too shocking. People are stocking up and won't be going back. Next group gets in there.

I'm amazed at how well everything has gone so far. But yeah we are just at the tip of the spear here.

 
The General said:
Placing stress on the system for sure. Don't really know how you prepare for millions of people all of a sudden working from home at the same time. Hopefully stores aren't out of food for days on end, a line at the grocery store heading into this isn't too shocking. People are stocking up and won't be going back. Next group gets in there.

I'm amazed at how well everything has gone so far. But yeah we are just at the tip of the spear here.
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Like you, my brother is in Seattle.

He described a run on the grocery stores, followed by restocking, and now another run on the stores.

Whatever CNN feels like tomorrow morning I guess.

 
mcintyre1 said:
This Verge article has more details of the Google site that Trump announced at the press conference and (as expected) there's some clarifications coming.

It seems likely that Verily (the Alphabet subsidiary developing the triage website) had no idea Trump was going to announce this thing in front of the nation. This was a centerpiece of his press conference today, and one of the first things he touted.
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I can't even talk to my bff anymore because CV is top story. She's among all Trump supporters that believes everything they hear and you're a hater if you don't. 

 
Non-China Reported Cases

2/7 - 277

2/12 - 490

2/17 - 893 reported cases -  5 dead 

2/22 - 1,834 reported cases - 19 dead

2/26 - 3,650 reported cases - 57 dead

2/29 - 7,155 reported cases - 109 dead - USA 68 cases - 1 dead

3/1 -    9,039 reported cases - 133 dead - USA 76 cases - 1 dead

3/5 - 17,353 reported cases - 344 dead - USA 210 cases - 12 dead

3/6 - 21,256 reported cases - 418 dead - USA 321 cases - 15 dead

3/7 - 25,311 reported cases - 502 dead - USA 438 cases - 19 dead

3/8 - 29,129 reported cases - 706 dead - USA 540 cases - 22 dead

3/9 - 33,303 reported cases - 881 dead - USA 628 cases - 26 dead

3/10 - 38,453 reported cases - 1,132 dead - USA 975 cases - 30 dead

3/11 - 45,386 reported cases - 1443 dead - USA 1,168 cases - 36 dead

3/12 - 53,763 reported cases - 1802 dead - USA 1,716 cases - 41 dead

3/13 - 64,567 reported cases - 2,239 dead - USA 2,269 cases - 48 dead

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-J_vry7rclLIGooJ-Cu7OFH8rRRjB51lz1iGkwcTETc/edit#gid=0

 
Golden Gopher said:
Didn't really plan to buy bottled water until I saw that it was limited to two cases, and everyone was grabbing some.  So I grabbed two.  Which is kind of a microcosm of how this chaos/panic works.  Someone sees everybody else buying TP, so they buy TP, which causes their neighbor (who needs TP) to not get any when it runs out, etc.  Pretty soon everyone is buying TP, but nobody is 100% sure why.  
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Probably covered, but why are people buying water?  I turn on my tap, run it through my Brita filter, and I'm good.  I honestly don't get this part.

 
Summer Wheat said:
Testing is relative.  I can test negative this morning and be all happy and get infected tonight.
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The idea is if you ARE positive then you can not only go into isolation, but they can try to trace back where it came from and possibly find others that are infected. Plus it then gives a heads up to others you may have infected so that they can self quarantine before infecting others.

 
tri-man 47 said:
Probably covered, but why are people buying water?  I turn on my tap, run it through my Brita filter, and I'm good.  I honestly don't get this part.
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It’s panic.  Nobody is going to have an answer the thread will like. It’s what humans do for the more common natural disasters.  
 

If that was rhetorical, nevermind. 

 
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bcat01 said:
In Ohio and the Govenor banned gatherings of greater than 100.  Restaurants are exempt so the local bar is having their weekend St. Patrick's bash with hundreds of people. 
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This makes me want to cry.  Some parts of the country are going to be Wuhan instead of the "rest of China".

From the article just upstream, delaying social distancing can lead to 10x the death rate.  So pointless.

 
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tri-man 47 said:
Probably covered, but why are people buying water?  I turn on my tap, run it through my Brita filter, and I'm good.  I honestly don't get this part.
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I have purchased six cases of water because I prefer bottled water - our tap water is gross. The reason for stocking up a bit (and six cases of water doesn't feel like some excessive number) is that I don't want to have to go to the store to get more when there are a large number of sick and/or contagious people. If I'm going to distance socially, which I am, then I want to do so with the foods/beverages I like. :shrug:

 
bcat01 said:
China media is saying it could shut off supply of drugs to US.  Link
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Well Trump is correct on this one and I think everyone will agree.  We need our own supply line of medicines.  We never should depend on China or any other country for that matter for these goods.

 
GroveDiesel said:
The idea is if you ARE positive then you can not only go into isolation, but they can try to trace back where it came from and possibly find others that are infected. Plus it then gives a heads up to others you may have infected so that they can self quarantine before infecting others.
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I don't get the resistance to this idea.  Yeah, it shouldn't be $1000 out of pocket to get it done, and you can't uninfect the people you might have come in contact with, but it will stop you and others from spreading it farther.  

 
Da Guru said:
Well Trump is correct on this one and I think everyone will agree.  We need our own supply line of medicines.  We never should depend on China or any other country for that matter for these goods.
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That sounds great. People aren't going to like paying $25 for some aspirin though.

 
KarmaPolice said:
I don't get the resistance to this idea.  Yeah, it shouldn't be $1000 out of pocket to get it done, and you can't uninfect the people you might have come in contact with, but it will stop you and others from spreading it farther.  
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No it won't.  By the time you figure it out you already infected others.

 
GroveDiesel said:
The idea is if you ARE positive then you can not only go into isolation, but they can try to trace back where it came from and possibly find others that are infected. Plus it then gives a heads up to others you may have infected so that they can self quarantine before infecting others.
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It is an endless circle, once they work backwards, they have to work forwards.. and backwards.  For everyone?

Too late.

 
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The General said:
That sounds great. People aren't going to like paying $25 for some aspirin though.
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People would pay $25 for a 12 pack of toilet paper today though.  

It would not be that much more but it is better than be held hostage by China for medicines.   Just my opinion..I would have no problem paying a couple bucks more.  Maybe I am in the minority on medicines though.

 
Unless you go to the ER to get tested and have to pay ER related fees, the coronavirus test should either be free or about $60 max. If you get it at your doctor’s office you may also have to pay an office copay or something, but this is going to be fairly cheap now that it’s becoming available.

 
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