NotSmart
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Paul Crewe: Hey Pop, the time you hit Hazen in the mouth, was it worth 30 years?
Pop: For me it was.
Paul Crewe: Then give me my damn shoe!
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (13 Viewers)
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Pop: For me it was.
Paul Crewe: Then give me my damn shoe!
Galileo
Footballguy
And you just stated it without the snarky 'murica reference and all that it implies. I suspect that's all Joe is after...posters making their points without the extra jab.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
NotSmart
Footballguy
I suspect that even if (when) it reaches the point that sharing ventilators would be needed due to the number of patients, the decision will be made that it's too risky and untried, and it's better to have a good chance at saving one patient than a potential chance of losing two.Man, I haven't read this or digested it, yet. But, I don't ever want any part of running two patients on one vent, let alone 20 on 5.
there are so many other factors to manage and fiddle with, besides Tidal Volumes, it would be a nightmare. Especially if these patients are already in ARDS.
Then again, it will likely be at least tried somewhere, and may be found to work reasonably well - which would be fantastic news.
Keerock
Footballguy
NotSmart
Footballguy
Semi related - In today's presser Dewine said he was going to be getting take out tonight for his family's dinner.
JaxBill
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Snarkiness is the least of our problems. We still have a huge population that thinks this whole situation is a joke.
Joe tries to run a good, clean forum and that is very respectful. Sometimes though, you need a little jab to make a point and that little jab shouldn’t offend anyone.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
thoughts on ordering good? we have restaurants staying open and deliverying food. But not sure i want to risk it. I suppose i could stick whatever it is in the oven for a hot second.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Yeah, I could see it as a last-ditch effort in a mass casualty event, with otherwise healthy people that don't require a lot of vent support, but not ARDS cases.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
50 new cases in LA County- total of 144
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I guess we'll see but 200,000 American deaths seems unrealistically low to me given all the information we have right now.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I wouldn’t order anything like a salad, and warm anything up that you get to be as safe as possible.
Patrick Bateman
Footballguy
My wife does, and she is a regular wine drinker. 800 mg probably 5-6 times a week. She gets migraines as well. I’ve warned her about this, though I didn’t realize it was more dangerous than Tylenol.
I’ve gone through regular periods where I will take 800mg before bed, sometimes 6-7 days in a row. I’m not really a big drinker though (except summers). It always seemed to help me sleep, and seemed to help with my restless leg syndrome (which is pull your hair out maddening at times). Had been trying to stop that before, and guess I should more so now.
NotSmart
Footballguy
From an NYT article:
But most experts, Bar-Yam included, do not consider the United States to have started the appropriate clock. Although cities are shutting down school systems and restaurants, social distancing is still a recommendation, rather than an enforced policy, as it is in Italy.
“It’s like a wrecking ball that’s going to hit the building, but it hasn’t hit yet,” Bar-Yam said. “Every day that we don’t do something, it’s getting worse, and by a lot.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/long-coronavirus-outbreak-shutdown-last-122221660.html
But most experts, Bar-Yam included, do not consider the United States to have started the appropriate clock. Although cities are shutting down school systems and restaurants, social distancing is still a recommendation, rather than an enforced policy, as it is in Italy.
“It’s like a wrecking ball that’s going to hit the building, but it hasn’t hit yet,” Bar-Yam said. “Every day that we don’t do something, it’s getting worse, and by a lot.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/long-coronavirus-outbreak-shutdown-last-122221660.html
facook
Footballguy
Thanks for this GM. Appreciate all the legit encouragement we can get right now.
NotSmart
Footballguy
I'm sorely tempted as well to order take out while it's still available, for a variety of reasons.
But I keep asking myself this: if I somehow knew that someone involved in preparing, packaging, or delivering that food had Covid-19, would I order it?
If the answer is no, then I probably shouldn't order it now when I don't know that info.
Still tempted and mulling it over though...
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I would really appreciate if they would relax the stupid restrictions on my allergy medication, at least a little. February during a non leap year is the only time I can legally buy a single months supply.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
If it is a place that will bring it to your car there is almost no risk if you follow some easy precautions.
NotSmart
Footballguy
Who knows in this case, but he posts a
response to any post that's realistic about the current situation.On an unrelated note, when someone you have on ignore makes a reaction to a post, you still see that reaction.
Doug B
Footballguy
On my way out, but I can say that the public schools in this area are attending to all of this. Will post more later.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Hey TX, thanks for all of your expertise, thoughts and general medical stuff. It's been helpful to have your perspective over the last few weeks.
JAA
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Chloroquine and related medicines are being tested left, right and center. Nothing definitive, positive results reported here and there. Unsure if negative or neutral results exist (those wouldn't be trumpeted to the media).
Traditional, old-line media is not touching any chloroquine news yet. However, for those interested, you can dig in a little to the work Dr. Didier Raoult is doing in France (search Google News for his name and 'coronavirus'). All very preliminary, none yet replicated by other researchers.
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
I tried to do some math. It’s been a while. Please check my work.
Based on data from South Korea, and assuming these numbers don’t change much:
81 deaths, 8,320 confirmed cases, total population of 51.5 million
Now extrapolate this out to the US:
567 deaths, 58,240 confirmed cases, total population of 350 million
What am I missing?
Based on data from South Korea, and assuming these numbers don’t change much:
81 deaths, 8,320 confirmed cases, total population of 51.5 million
Now extrapolate this out to the US:
567 deaths, 58,240 confirmed cases, total population of 350 million
What am I missing?
shader
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
Jobber
Footballguy
Yes. Massive amounts of testing, sheltering in place, populace that's taking it seriously. Basically polar opposite from the US at the moment.
joffer
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Capella
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Our school district is preparing free lunches in several areas around the county. I think most counties in my area are doing the same.
TripItUp
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
Their country is far smaller than the USA, and has a much smaller population.
They have done 270,000 tests.
They had an aggressive stance on the virus.
The USA isn’t testing at anywhere near those levels and isn’t quarantining at their level.
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Politician Spock
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