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If this is going to become the rule all over the country ... they should at least move on to sampling. Sampling would be akin to polling opinions -- you test a representative sample of those presenting with varying severity of symptoms. The whole gamut, from "healthy" to "mild cold/flu-like" on to "advanced ARDS/pneumonia" to "terminal".
agreed, or at least just run the regular respiratory screening (which checks for flu, pneumonia, old coronas, etc.).. if they are negative for all that, at this point just assume its CV19 and isolate accordingly
This is an excellent point. Gah ... I can understand the temptation to save test kits, but man ... this is a great point, too.
This is hilarious. At Walmart the dude at the door scans your receipt with a hand held scanner and just superficially looks at the bags. I still haven't figured out the purpose for this other than employing one more person.
1) Because it influences "spreading" behavior, and not just the behavior of the patient. Without a positive test result, it's too easy to rationalize one's risky behavior.
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Good lord, this is irresponsible. Whoever is running the Daytona Beach Twitter and Facebook accounts needs to be fired.
Same as the "hey, how ya doing" person at the front of Best Buy.
Not done here, for whatever reason. At least not comphrehensively done, maybe here and there.
Texted my know it all generally healthy 73 year old father "hey let me know if you need anything from the store. I'll get it for you." His response "I have N95 mask. Why don't YOU let ME know what you need and I'll get it for YOU"
Pa is also under a “lockdown” almost everything except bars and restaurants are still open. People going to work in offices, factories where it’s not possible to be 6 ft apart sometimes. Grocery stores are normal, small huddles of people. Walmart too. This “lockdown” here has down very little if anything from what I see/hear
I love the elderly. They are often overlooked in the grand scheme of things. They have stress that if you live to their age, you will probably experience as well. Their wisdom, their experiences in life usually makes for a heartwarming story. I wish the medical field still had geriatrics as a specialty. Unfortunately the elderly are now seeing family medicine specialists or pcps along with the rest of us.
Most out of control hoarders are maxxed out already, sitting at home staring at a mound of TP and other stuff that they wont use up in 2 years.
we still doing this with our “sources?”matttyl said:
In normal times, it's theoretically so that a shoplifter has to make it past a person reviewing their purchases vs. the receipt. In practice ... yeah, the process breaks down.
Orleans Parish was playing that "not my parish!" for the first few days after Louisiana had it's first confirmation. Despicable misinformation from various parish heads -- "Yes, Sheriff, your parish, too, has a butt-load of cases right now, too."
That's what I think too. Those who are still working where no one sees their behaviour may have a false sense of immunity since it's ok for them to leave their house to work. I'm talking about engineers in a firm, lawyers in a firm who chose to go in to escape the wife and kids scene at home. These type of exceptions make it so it's not going to this will be going on longer. There are still so many people out there with their heads in the sand.
Right now, they're not testing people who can still run around town without symptoms.
Yeah, makes you wonder about all the numbers the state is reporting. This guy was HERE in our hospital with a confirmed case, which caused his death. Yet we show zero cases reported officially, strictly because of how they decided to report the numbers.
Grocery stores, drug stores, Target/etc, banks all open, restaurants for takeout open. Barber shops/Hair places open but no idea why anyone would risk it to get a haircut right now. Only supposed to go out if it's necessary or to exercise alone. Haven't gone out the front door of my apartment in 9 days. They're saying this is in place until April 19th, maybe longer. Seems like most people staying home now but that will only last so long. Eventually a portion of the population will just ignore the order and just do what they want to do. Hope that does not happen for a while but I'm pessimistic.
I think I'm missing your point. Some people can readily and easily self-isolate while traveling to and from an office (given that the office space is largely vacated, no more crowded elevators or walkways, etc.).** I had thought the idea of social distancing was to avoid near-contact with others, not strictly to remain in one's home.
Privately-purchased test, but your point is taken. The famous asymptomatic people getting tested are working outside of the country's public health systems altogether.
Police are out here driving the streets with their eyes on people and businesses. If people start saying eff it, they will be cited with a misdemeanor. Who knows, maybe the national guard will be called out to enforce the rules at some point.
I really can't understand any argument against widespread testing (if/when available). Any path forward without it is further disaster for the economy and the healthcare system.
There are all kinds of people out there, still too many the flu kills more. So many are still looking at mortality and figure if I get it, I'm young and healthy and will quarantine for 14 days while I get through it. I have a friend still on the fence about this. I gave up on her.
I've heard of people getting ticketed in East Bay.
Perhaps widespread testing will just reveal that the virus has spread beyond the point where suppression measures will make a difference. Perhaps the powers that be are already aware of this.
Even if privately purchased, doesn't this mean that those tests were not available to the public, and in turn, to a more worthy recipient of said test?
Man. Am I out of the ordinary to say that I'd not risk an excursion for a bagel and coffee? Especially in NYC.
I know this is your life and all - but can you just buy a dozen bagels next time you go and make coffee at home so as to not have to go out every morning?
It's serious here. Lots of police shown driving the streets. One cop said first is a educational talk to those breaking the rules but it may come to straight misdemeanor citations as it's been long enough that people should know by now.
