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I heard this morning on Today that it will be based off of your 2019 taxes, if you filed them.  If not, then 2018 taxes.  They pushed the "if you haven't filed yet, you better do so in order to qualify for this package" line on the show.
I also read it's ultimately based on your 2020 income so when you file your taxes next year you may have to pay some back if move above the threshold.

 
The economy being "open for business" by Easter is never, ever going to happen.  It's just not possible and if it happened, it would lead to a catastrophe.
I think Trump knows that. He's simultaneously campaigning and by saying beautiful Easter, hope the pews are full, the religious love that. 

 
What am I missing on Brees instagram that is amazing?
Brittany and I are committing $5,000,000 to the State of Louisiana in 2020. The priority now is helping our communities get through this tough time.
After considerable research and conversations with local organizations, we will be mobilizing our partnerships with Second Harvest Food Bank, Ochsner Health Systems, Walk-Ons, Jimmy Johns, Smalls Sliders and Waitr to prepare and deliver over 10,000 meals per day throughout Louisiana for as long as it takes to children on meal programs, seniors, and families in need. Let’s all do our part, maintain hope, and get through this together.

 
Don't have a link because I just glanced it over but there's reports that the "German" parts of Switzerland are doing better than the "French parts". Maybe more cultural discipline?
I went to grad school in the UK and had a few German friends. Our program featured 30+ countries and the German's were the only ones who were thrilled by hanging out and BSing. All they would say is everything was very "business orientated" and "we just don't do that". So there are some definite cultural differences at least in my tiny sample.

 
Viruses are inevitable. They’re going to happen and people are going to die. Why take down the entire economy trying to change that?  It’s nuts. 
Even if everyone were allowed to go back to work today, as soon as the outbreak got bad, they would chose to not do business on their own. This pandemic is like a two to three month hurricane that the government has ordered us to evacuate for. But cancelling the evacuation to "save the economy" isn't going to save the economy, because nature is going to kill the economy. It's unavoidable.

 
Question about the stimulus package...  Are they going off of 2019 taxes at all or only 2018?  In 2018 we made over the $150,000 threshold.  This year we had significantly less income but haven't filed yet because I still owe like $2,000 this year.  

Wondering if it was worth hurrying up and filing the 2019 taxes before they start cutting checks?
if you have not filed, they will use 2018

 
This is amazing.

Meanwhile you have Whole Foods asking employees to donate their sick time to each other while Jeff Bezos does #### all to help. Disgusting. 
If I looked around a lot more, I'm positive I'd be wrong ... but Brees' $5 million is the third-most I've seen a private citizen step up with behind mega-billionaires Bill Gates and Jack Ma. Bezos' contributions seem to be going through Amazon itself, not so much direct cash outlay ... though whatever wrong is going on at Whole Foods needs to roll up to him, as well.

 
Not good numbers. Hoping new cases would start to dip below 5k not go back above 6k. 
I'd really like to know what stage Italy's new reported cases are at.  Usually they get tested when they report symptoms.  This often happens a week or two before hospitalization.

That's the scary part for Italy's healthcare system.  As bad as they are getting hammered right now, over half of their total cases have been reported in the last 8 days.

 
If I looked around a lot more, I'm positive I'd be wrong ... but Brees' $5 million is the third-most I've seen a private citizen step up with behind mega-billionaires Bill Gates and Jack Ma. Bezos' contributions seem to be going through Amazon itself, not so much direct cash outlay ... though whatever wrong is going on at Whole Foods needs to roll up to him, as well.
5 million for a guy like Brees is awesome.  It shows he cares.

 
File this in the "rumor" category

From bnonews:

"Mayor in Italian city of Bergamo suggests higher death toll due to coronavirus: 446 residents died between March 1 and March 24, which is 348 above the average (98). Only 136 deaths were officially linked to coronavirus"

 
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Ive played this game before

How many people is it OK to die so that the economy is not "significantly impacted"?  Please be specific in death count totals
This number is insignificant, because no number of deaths can save the economy. It would be like cancelling an evacuation for a hurricane to save the economy. People still aren't going to work during the hurricane. All you did was put them in harms way and kill more than needed to. This virus has assured us that the 2020 economy and going forward is going to suck regardless of what we do. People need to accept that in order to process what they are going to do going forward. Holding on the belief that the economy can be saved, let alone what amount of life is worth sacrificing to save it, is ridiculous. 

 
The economy being "open for business" by Easter is never, ever going to happen.  It's just not possible and if it happened, it would lead to a catastrophe.
There has to be some middle ground, where both can be accomplished to some extent.  In other words, stay at home, social distancing, etc. while still trying to "re-start" the economy to some extent.  It doesn't have to be one or the other.   And, restarting doesn't mean we go back to life as we knew it a month ago.  A lot of measures need to be put into place, and restarting has to be done very creatively, and in several steps.  Certain industries first.  Maybe certain age groups first.  Most importantly, look at who's going back to work and who's not, and does it make sense?  I've always felt that the most successful people in life are those who are able to adapt to change, sometimes with little time to do so.  This is the perfect example of that, and some are doing a great job.... restaurants transitioning to takeout/delivery only, distilleries becoming mass producers of hand sanitizer, companies transitioning to produce masks and ventilators on short notice, etc.  

All of that said, our top priority right now has to be to protect and save lives.  

 
There has to be some middle ground, where both can be accomplished to some extent.  In other words, stay at home, social distancing, etc. while still trying to "re-start" the economy to some extent.  It doesn't have to be one or the other.   And, restarting doesn't mean we go back to life as we knew it a month ago.  A lot of measures need to be put into place, and restarting has to be done very creatively, and in several steps.  Certain industries first.  Maybe certain age groups first.  Most importantly, look at who's going back to work and who's not, and does it make sense?  I've always felt that the most successful people in life are those who are able to adapt to change, sometimes with little time to do so.  This is the perfect example of that, and some are doing a great job.... restaurants transitioning to takeout/delivery only, distilleries becoming mass producers of hand sanitizer, companies transitioning to produce masks and ventilators on short notice, etc.  

All of that said, our top priority right now has to be to protect and save lives.  
Great post... It needs to be done in a balanced and thought out sequence.

 
Question about the stimulus package...  Are they going off of 2019 taxes at all or only 2018?  In 2018 we made over the $150,000 threshold.  This year we had significantly less income but haven't filed yet because I still owe like $2,000 this year.  

Wondering if it was worth hurrying up and filing the 2019 taxes before they start cutting checks?
Yes, I would File.   From what I read, they will use the latest return they have.  2019 if they have it otherwise 2018.

 
It simply means your 2020 filings will determine what you qualified for. Your 2019 or 2018 are determining the amount you are being advanced on it. 
So does it mean that you get a bigger refund on 2020 taxes if you didn't qualify in '18 or '19 but would in '20?  My wife quit her job this year, in '18 and '19 we were over $150k, won't be this year.

 
Alright, haven't posted in this thread yet. This sucks ###. I missed my sons birthday cause we are all on lockdown. My girlfriend, who has mental health issues, (please don't judge) can't even leave her apartment just for her "Iced coffee" or get groceries. I feel like death. It has been movies and chicken soup for days for me. I haven't been tested yet, I am considering it. I don't know if I have the flu or whateva. Either way, this sucks. I am bored off my ###. I have been staying home. If anyone has any good porn links, that would be awesome.*

*I am kidding, and I have my own library.

This still sucks.

 
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Covid-19 ADHS 3/25/20 News Conference

Comments from Arizona Department of Health Services Director Cara M. Christ

(Paraphrasing)

We anticipate we have around 1000 ventilators statewide. We are hoping to get around 4500 or 5000. We have put a request for an additional 5000 above what we already have in the state.

We anticipate we could need an additional 13,000 hospital beds and 1,500 ICU beds in addition to the current 16,000 hospital beds and 1500 ICU beds. We believe the peak of our illness will start mid to the end of April with peak hospitalizations in May.
That sounds like a recipe for disaster. Long enough delay that some might quit the social distancing (already not doing a great job) especially with a governor who has been slow to shut things down.

Talked to nurse at a local hospital and they’re giving everyone chloroquine (probably hydroxychloroquine) and azithromycin, so it might be a good test of how effective it is in treatment.

 
Talked to nurse at a local hospital and they’re giving everyone chloroquine (probably hydroxychloroquine) and azithromycin, so it might be a good test of how effective it is in treatment.
That's basically what they're doing ... something of a grand scale experiment. The azithromycin alone will help with some secondary infections.

 
Italy still has between 6-13 days to go before they get to days 21-28 on their 56 day bell curve. The curve begins after a significant numbers of cases is reported and after a complete shutdown is ordered to implement extreme social distancing mitigation. This happened in Italy on March 11, or 15 days ago. While today's numbers are not good, they do report more recoveries than deaths, and the % increase in deaths is 9%, the first time it has lowered to double digits (unfortunately that's partially a function of the denominator increasing). It is also the 5th day in a row with new daily cases below the 6,557 mark reached on March 21, which may turn out to be the peak number (fingers crossed).

Hopefully they remain diligent with their social distancing measures and we get to the downside of the curve closer to 6 days from now than 13.

Please realize this talk of Easter in this country is absolutely ridiculous. You think they're talking like that in Italy?

Wondering how many days we are into the 56 day bell curve in the U.S.? That would be 4. Depending on your region you may not even have started yet.

 
So does it mean that you get a bigger refund on 2020 taxes if you didn't qualify in '18 or '19 but would in '20?  My wife quit her job this year, in '18 and '19 we were over $150k, won't be this year.
I believe that would be a yes. How much people qualify for is determined by what you make in 2020, and is determined on your 2020 filing. The check you are about to received is an advance on that credit, and the advance amount is determine by your 2019 or 2018 filing. If there is any difference between what you qualified for on your 2020 filing, and what you received as an advance, that will be rectified by your 2020 return. 

 
Seems rents here are keeping with squeezing $s out of people. They are still posting $25 more a mo rents in my complex despite the financial crunch. Guess they assume it's silicon valley and everyone is rich and working from home.

 
####### people.   So Tulsa has now closed all of the local parks due to people overcrowding and allowing their kids to climb on the playground equipment.  
FWIW, this is from a physician in Tulsa:
 

“I'm drenched in sweat from wearing a Tyvek suit and being in our COVID-19 negative pressure ICU for hours doing procedures. I've intubated 3 COVID patients tonight. I have another who is going to die tonight. I have another moving to the unit that I will have to intubate.

Every patient asks me the same question: what's going to happen? I give the same answer every time: I don't know, but this isn't good. It's not a lie, but their chances are ####. That's the truth.

I've been having them facetime or talk with family before intubation. It's their chance to say goodbye. No family can come into that unit. It's sealed off from the rest of the world. Every time I go in, I feel like I'm walking over graves.

It's not the death that's getting to me, it's the not knowing how to fix it. Not knowing how to pull someone back who shouldn't be there. These people who are relatively healthy are being ravaged by this virus. I don't understand it.

I just want to help and all I feel like is a gosh darn grim reaper. I'm not afraid to say it, this virus scares the #### out of me. If you aren't scared, you haven't stood toe to toe with it.

Stay safe everyone...

 
Don't have a link because I just glanced it over but there's reports that the "German" parts of Switzerland are doing better than the "French parts". Maybe more cultural discipline?
The French speaking parts of Switzerland are where the majority of the ski resorts are located. This seems to be a factor there as well as in Austria, Italy and France.

 
What do we say to people who are 100% sure they are protected by their faiths? 
Go to the back of the line if you need hospitalisation?
 

Yahoo News: Ohio Megachurch Keeps Holding Mass Gatherings, Even As Coronavirus Spreads 
While most of Ohio spent the last week lying low under Gov. Mike DeWine’s “stay at home” order to stem the coronavirus outbreak, the Solid Rock megachurch just north of Cincinnati took the opposite approach. 

USA Today: Louisiana pastor says he has 1,000 people at services, defying state coronavirus orders 
The Rev. Tony Spell, who claims that congregants at Life Tabernacle Church in the city of Central City, about 15 miles northeast of Baton Rouge, have been cured of cancer and HIV, said that coronavirus is “politically motivated.”
A confederacy of dunces.

 
News moves fast, was pretty sure he gave his warehouse workers a raise across the board, plus overtime pay is now 2x pay instead of time and a half.  
Because business is booming and he needs workers, not because he's a nice guy. 

If Brees is donating $5m then Bezos should be good for AT LEAST $100m but he's MIA.

 

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